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I'm glad I don't have these problems. I just go to my local station and by Non-ethanol fuel.  Gotta love Florida. |
Costly ???
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03-15-2018, 08:38 AM
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Star*Tron! It is BLUE too! When I have a Gas Engine issue because of "Fuel" in any of my Gas powered tools that sometime sit for Months with Fuel in them that has been Treated with "Star*Tron",I will Post it here! I have been using "Star*Tron for several years now,No Fuel issues!  Youroo!! 
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03-15-2018, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
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Yes, it is considerably more. Probably more than 50 cents/gallon. Ethanol fuel attacks the fuel lines and other components as-well-as absorbing moister into the gas in small engines. Though the newer outboards have ethanol proof fuel systems and will run on ethanol/gas, non-ethanol gas is still recommended.
We are able to buy non-ethanol gas in both Wisconsin and Florida. It is worth the difference in cost to know you will have less problems. At least some Michigan stations should carry non-ethanol gas, especially in boating/water recreational areas.
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03-15-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
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Yes, about $.50 more but well worth it as little as I use in the small motors that I have. Don't put it in the cars and truck.
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03-15-2018, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
Yes, about $.50 more but well worth it as little as I use in the small motors that I have. Don't put it in the cars and truck.
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Our Silverado is designed to run on E85. We have tried it in Wisconsin, but the MPG goes south. With lower gas prices now, it's not worth the "savings" because there really is no savings. It does seem to burn clean though.
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03-15-2018, 09:45 AM
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I have heard it is available here near or @ Boat Dealers !!!
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03-15-2018, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
I have heard it is available here near or @ Boat Dealers !!!
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If you don’t use a lot of gas, you can buy 100% fuel at Lowe’s or Home Depot.
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03-16-2018, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by carlsbad
If you don’t use a lot of gas, you can buy 100% fuel at Lowe’s or Home Depot.
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For Sure ???
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03-16-2018, 11:33 AM
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I've had my 2000 Honda's since 2009 and only use 89 octane right out of the pump, as recommended by Honda. I treat every tank of fuel with Star-tron. I treat and fill the tanks for winter storage.
NEVER HAD AN ISSUE. 
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03-16-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by grayfox
I've had my 2000 Honda's since 2009 and only use 89 octane right out of the pump, as recommended by Honda. I treat every tank of fuel with Star-tron. I treat and fill the tanks for winter storage.
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Does your Honda have a fuel shut-off valve ???
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03-16-2018, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
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Mine don't. But don't need one since I treat my fuel .
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03-16-2018, 01:48 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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Quote:
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I'm glad I don't have these problems. I just go to my local station and by Non-ethanol fuel. Gotta love Florida. |
Same here in GA. Lot of stations now carring it and I use for small engines and also use the staybil when I store. Every now and then add some sea foam. Later RJD
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03-16-2018, 02:12 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Short answer, I don't know??
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03-16-2018, 02:39 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
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Yep.
Quart cans.
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03-16-2018, 03:02 PM
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The local small engine lawnmower shop is making a living on ethanol.
They advise the use of Shell premium in the mowers. No ethanol in most of Ohio in that gas. Has worked for me since I Switched.
Marinas all have no ethanol gas in most places.
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03-17-2018, 07:35 AM
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We will just keep buying gas @ Sam's,,,
sometimes it is like 30 cents cheaper than the others !!!
And treating small engines gas with 1/2 oz per gallon every time !!!
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03-19-2018, 10:21 PM
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Location: North of Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
Yes, about $.50 more but well worth it as little as I use in the small motors that I have. Don't put it in the cars and truck.
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Around here the premium paid for no ethanol can be as high as $1.25/gal.
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Originally Posted by PenJoe
Yes, it is considerably more. Probably more than 50 cents/gallon. Ethanol fuel attacks the fuel lines and other components as-well-as absorbing moister into the gas in small engines. Though the newer outboards have ethanol proof fuel systems and will run on ethanol/gas, non-ethanol gas is still recommended.
We are able to buy non-ethanol gas in both Wisconsin and Florida. It is worth the difference in cost to know you will have less problems. At least some Michigan stations should carry non-ethanol gas, especially in boating/water recreational areas.
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03-19-2018, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
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If you don’t use a lot of gas, you can buy 100% fuel at Lowe’s or Home Depot.
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But it is in quart cans at $28 a gallon. Also have premix 40:1 or 50:1 for about the same price.
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03-20-2018, 10:25 AM
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CRAZY !!! $$$$$
When a oz of Stabil or Seafoam will work just as well !!!
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03-20-2018, 12:33 PM
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Always used ethanol fuel in all my engines. Never an issue and never added any snake oil. My friend is a chemical engineer for Chevron. He says the issues are completely overblown.
Yes the ethanol sbsors water but unless you get to the point where it reaches saturation and you get phase separation, you won't have an issue.
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