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Old 11-19-2016, 10:43 PM   #1
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Can't make the furnace or the stove work. Propane tank says 1/2 tank and I recently filled it to that. I can hook up a 5 gal tank to external input and it works. What would cause this?
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Old 11-19-2016, 11:27 PM   #2
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It would be my guess that your emergency shutoff built into the shutoff valve has activated try shutting off your main supply valve and then slowly opening it and see if that solves the problem.
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Old 11-20-2016, 08:17 AM   #3
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check your propane detector, may be off or not working. This would close the electric valve at the propane tank. I posted on Berk Owners Forum how to bypass the valve.
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:37 PM   #4
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I did disconnect the gas detector because I haven't had time to go get a new one. Would that cause this? And how do I bypass
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Old 11-26-2016, 06:35 PM   #5
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Sorry don't know how to bypass it. It takes a voltage to open and remain open. Not sure how much DC voltage it takes to open.
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Old 11-26-2016, 08:35 PM   #6
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I did disconnect the gas detector because I haven't had time to go get a new one. Would that cause this? And how do I bypass

I had to bypass mine before when the detector went bad during a trip. I removed the detector. There were 3 wires. Take the hot wire and splice it with the odd color wire that opens the relay at the tank. You will hear the relay click. Sorry I don't remember the color of the wires.


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Old 11-26-2016, 08:40 PM   #7
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Also look at this old thread.

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ad.php?t=49913




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This is how I bypassed mine when it failed. I ordered a new detector on line and this worked until I got the new one.



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Hi Motodad
Your 2011 Berk is close to my 2012. If it has the Safe-T-Alert by MTI Industries I may be able to help you.

I had a bottle fall out of the refrigerator, burst and sprayed the detector. We were on the road in hot August and seeing the refrigerator temperature heading north, because the detector shut off the propane. Here is what to do:

The Safe-T-Alert has the four following wires:
Black - ground
Red - 12 VDC
White - Relay 1
White - Relay 2

1. Remove the screws holding the detector to the wall and get familiar with the detector's wire's and their connection to cabin wiring.

2. You will notice that one of the White wires is tied to the Red wire (of Alert)and then the cabin wire (this is 12VDC).

3. The other white wire from the detector goes to the solenoid valve. It supply's 12VDC to the valve to open it when the detector is happy. As a jury-rig and without cutting any wires, connect the two white wires (of the detector) together. To do this, scrape some insulation off of each white wire and connect them together. If the solenoid valve is good, propane should then flow.

Note: If you do not have wire splices and proper tools, you can in a pinch connect to a wire's copper conductor by piercing the wire's insulation with a safety pin. You can make connections this way; but be sure to bandage with whatever tape you have.

The MTI Safe-T-Alert suggest to replace the detector every 5 years. You will notice a date stamp on the rear label and some units have the date on the front.

Be careful in buying a new detector. The detector supplied by FR from MTI has an "R" and "Kit" in the model number. The "Kit" means that a solenoid is included. The only place to get the Safe-T-Alert without the solenoid (that is if your solenoid is good) is from FR Parts or MTI.

I got my replacement from FR Parts Department.
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Hank I did buy mine from Amazon without the solenoid. I forgot the price but less than 100$.



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Old 11-28-2016, 09:00 AM   #11
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Hank I did buy mine from Amazon without the solenoid. I forgot the price but less than 100$.
Phil - If your detector has two white wires, you got a deal. The white wires mean there is an internal relay for the propane valve.

The Safe-T-Alert that came with my Berk had a part number of:
70-742-R-KIT-(*), where * is the color code. For a replacement of the detector only, the part number needs to be:
70-742-R-(*), where R is the relay.

I got stung by buying one without the "R". Even MTI Industries does not advertise the replacement detector, but talking with them they will sell on for I believe $163. With the valve its about $250. I got mine from FR parts.

Phil, I am just pointing out to everyone to be careful here; it is not easy to get this part: 70-742-R-(*), where R is the relay.

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Phil - It could be that your Berk had a different model then the Safe-T-Alert.
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Thanks guys.
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Motodad - You started this thread with non-working propane; so did you get it fixed
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Hi Motodad

Your 2011 Berk is close to my 2012. If it has the Safe-T-Alert by MTI Industries I may be able to help you.



I had a bottle fall out of the refrigerator, burst and sprayed the detector. We were on the road in hot August and seeing the refrigerator temperature heading north, because the detector shut off the propane. Here is what to do:



The Safe-T-Alert has the four following wires:

Black - ground

Red - 12 VDC

White - Relay 1

White - Relay 2



1. Remove the screws holding the detector to the wall and get familiar with the detector's wire's and their connection to cabin wiring.



2. You will notice that one of the White wires is tied to the Red wire (of Alert)and then the cabin wire (this is 12VDC).



3. The other white wire from the detector goes to the solenoid valve. It supply's 12VDC to the valve to open it when the detector is happy. As a jury-rig and without cutting any wires, connect the two white wires (of the detector) together. To do this, scrape some insulation off of each white wire and connect them together. If the solenoid valve is good, propane should then flow.



Note: If you do not have wire splices and proper tools, you can in a pinch connect to a wire's copper conductor by piercing the wire's insulation with a safety pin. You can make connections this way; but be sure to bandage with whatever tape you have.



The MTI Safe-T-Alert suggest to replace the detector every 5 years. You will notice a date stamp on the rear label and some units have the date on the front.



Be careful in buying a new detector. The detector supplied by FR from MTI has an "R" and "Kit" in the model number. The "Kit" means that a solenoid is included. The only place to get the Safe-T-Alert without the solenoid (that is if your solenoid is good) is from FR Parts or MTI.



I got my replacement from FR Parts Department.

Hank

Thank you sir. That worked. So I need to order a new detector. Wired the white wires together and heard the valve click. Furnace now works. Thank you all for the help. Have a great Christmas guys.
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Motodad, I'm glad this helped you. Many on this forum has helped me enormously as well in the past.

May you and yours have a great Christmas.
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