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Old 11-26-2015, 10:07 AM   #101
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I got an email yesterday from my salesman (Chad) at Total Value RV in Elkhart. He said that they are getting one in January. I will be going there to check it out when it arrives. Can't wait. Will fill all in with details.


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Old 11-26-2015, 10:11 AM   #102
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We'll need full details and pics Rich.
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Old 11-26-2015, 10:16 AM   #103
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We'll need full details and pics Rich.

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Old 11-26-2015, 11:56 AM   #104
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Will do. Happy Thanksgiving to all....


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Old 11-26-2015, 04:51 PM   #105
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I've done lots of research on Newmar vs FR motorhomes. I do not believe that the XLT can be compared to the Dutch Star.

The XLT Berk will be more in line with the Newmar Ventana.
Actually CC, the XLT is specifically targeting the Dutch Star. It's my understanding that the Charleston is targeting even bigger game
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I got an email yesterday from my salesman (Chad) at Total Value RV in Elkhart. He said that they are getting one in January. I will be going there to check it out when it arrives. Can't wait. Will fill all in with details.
Rich,

GAAAH! they musta had a production delay. Dave told us 2 weeks ago they were expecting their first XLT "any day now." Louisville must have set the Diesel division back.

Looking at other posts the one thing I hope Total RV will do is load up the Berk with a full 150 GAL of Diesel, full FWT & Propane and take it to a scale.

Please DO post picts Rich - will really like to see a XLT out in the wild instead of at the factory
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:02 PM   #107
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BB, the XLT would have to have a lot of huge upgrades that my 390 doesn't have to compete with the Dutch Star. The DS MSRP is around $430K. I been inside lots of them, lots of Newmar Ventanas also. I haven't seen an XLT yet so we shall see.

I've been inside a few Charlestons also. They don't compete with a Dutch Star IMO.
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:08 PM   #108
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One of the biggest differences would be the DS is all electric. The AquaHot is almost mandatory on a Moho in that price range.
I understand the Charleston will have AquaHot for 2017?



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Old 11-26-2015, 09:12 PM   #109
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I don't know if I would like AquaHot, I read about a lot of problems with it. And the maintenance is expensive. My DW loves propane for cooking also. So having an all electric coach would not work for us.
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RVT.com has a 2016 berk tag on their website. Looks nice but definitely not even close to a dutch star!! The Dutch star's have the new two stage full length roof awnings!! That alone is huge! IMO!

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Old 11-27-2015, 12:06 AM   #111
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New 2016 Forest River RV Berkshire XLT 43A Motor Home Class A - Diesel at Longview RV Superstores | Windsor Locks, CT | #11536

MSRP $351,252

SALE $299,998



Newmar Dutch Star

MSRP $400,000 plus

Sale. $320,000 plus

http://www.leisuretimervok.com/rv/ok...utch+star+4018
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:34 AM   #112
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The XLT may evolve over a few years to Dutch Star status, but for now, it's not even close.

The Ventana is it's competition in the 43' tag models.
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The XLT may evolve over a few years to Dutch Star status, but for now, it's not even close.

The Ventana is it's competition in the 43' tag models.
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Old 11-27-2015, 11:53 AM   #114
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RVT.com has a 2016 berk tag on their website. Looks nice but definitely not even close to a dutch star!! The Dutch star's have the new two stage full length roof awnings!! That alone is huge! IMO!

Jason

I've got to go along with some earlier posts and say that the Berk tag (XLT) comparison is more in line with the Ventana than the Dutch Star. This is my comparison basis
2016 Newmar Ventana 4037, Class A - Diesel RV For Sale in Orlando-Winter Garden, Florida | Independence RV 8736 | RVT.com - 108625 Moving the Berk up in price range will make for greater scrutiny. One of the strong points of the Berk to many of us was the price to standard amenities ratio. I wonder what the new strategy will be? Anyway, I'm still extremely interested in this new offering.


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Old 11-27-2015, 12:12 PM   #115
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The XLT may evolve over a few years to Dutch Star status, but for now, it's not even close.

The Ventana is it's competition in the 43' tag models.

Totally agree!

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Old 11-27-2015, 05:24 PM   #116
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Agree, i looked at the ventana and dutch star before buying my Berk. I was comparing Ventana to berk. Only comaprison to Dutchstar was lenghth of bunks, 74".


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Old 11-27-2015, 05:31 PM   #117
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Got some info from Total Value Rv in Elkhart. They got this one in. Can talk to Chad at Total Value. Good guy that knows his stuff.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:45 PM   #118
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The paint is ugly. IMHO.


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Old 11-27-2015, 05:54 PM   #119
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Ya, that grey lower strip and upper one are kind of busy.


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Old 11-27-2015, 05:59 PM   #120
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Well the paint is different. I think it will grow on us.

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