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Old 01-14-2016, 02:22 PM   #21
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Not really Paul - but the convenience of keeping the fob in your pocket and not having a key (or key ring full of keys) dangling from the ignition is really nice. Also I guess I should have elaborated what a "keyless ignition" really does.

For example, the fob for our car can stay in my pocket, yet when I get close to the car, the car senses the fob and:
  • In the dark turns on the puddle & door lights.
  • When I pull the door handle, the car automatically unlocks.
  • If I get close to the trunk it beeps and after 3 sec opens the trunk.
  • When you walk away from the car and the car can no longer sense the fob, all the doors lock.
  • When I am in the driver's seat I push the start button and the engine starts or I push and Hold and the ACC feature is activated.
Translate this to the Berkshire:
  • In the dark, when you get close to the door, the awning and step lights turn on.
  • Pull the door handle, the door automatically unlocks.
  • When you get close to a basement door, it unlocks for you (conversely, when you press "lock" on the fob all compartments lock, press twice and the Front Door locks as well.
  • When in the captain's chair, push the start button and the engine starts or push and Hold and the ACC feature is activated.
just a little bit more than pushing a button
Bob folks have been saying this about rv's for many years, it is only in the last few years that they have finally trying to get caught up with all the other things folks what. As for the Berkshire it self, you have to remember that it is built on a "BUS CHASSIS" so it has always been in the trucking/bus industry that all the bells and whistles that are in cars rarely never show up in trucks, and if they do it takes 10 or more years to do so.

Sorry for the short history lesson but this is how it works. So the key fob thing is a HUGE jump as far as that industry is concerned.

Hope this help and Happy Camping
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Bob folks have been saying this about rv's for many years, it is only in the last few years that they have finally trying to get caught up with all the other things folks what. As for the Berkshire it self, you have to remember that it is built on a "BUS CHASSIS" so it has always been in the trucking/bus industry that all the bells and whistles that are in cars rarely never show up in trucks, and if they do it takes 10 or more years to do so.



Sorry for the short history lesson but this is how it works. So the key fob thing is a HUGE jump as far as that industry is concerned.



Hope this help and Happy Camping

Forest River moho's are not built on "BUS CHASSIS". They are built on Freightliner Custom Chassis.
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Forest River moho's are not built on "BUS CHASSIS". They are built on Freightliner Custom Chassis.

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The Keyless Start sounds Great to me,,, I have arthritis in my right hand,,, and it is a pain to turn the key in my 03 F-150 !!! 2011 EDGE is not bad,,, key in the dash,,, 2013 Sunseeker not real easy either !!!
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The Keyless Start sounds Great to me,,, I have arthritis in my right hand,,, and it is a real B to turn the key in my 03 F-150 !!! 2011 EDGE is not bad,,, key in the dash,,, 2013 Sunseeker not real easy either !!!

Odd how little things make a difference. Who would have ever expected a little thing like turning a key would give any of us a concern years ago. Now it matters. I don't have that issue although I love the keyless ignition. I do have other issues that make it difficult to do simple tasks and I feel your pain. Lol. Be well.



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Odd how little things make a difference. Who would have ever expected a little thing like turning a key would give any of us a concern years ago. Now it matters. I don't have that issue although I love the keyless ignition. I do have other issues that make it difficult to do simple tasks and I feel your pain. Lol. Be well.
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Not really Paul - but the convenience of keeping the fob in your pocket and not having a key (or key ring full of keys) dangling from the ignition is really nice. Also I guess I should have elaborated what a "keyless ignition" really does.
Just one thing about those fobs that don't have to be inserted into the dash board - if the vehicle is running (car or RV) and the driver is not the one with the key fob, you can be in for a big surprise. Say husband has key fob and drives to work with wife, or wife drives, husband drops off and she drives away. When she gets home or to her work, she can turn it off but not back on again. Same thing could happen with an RV although you are less likely to be in different locations. But, for example, if the person not filling the fuel tank has the fob and goes to the rest room and then stops to pick up some snacks, etc., the RV cannot be moved out of the pump lane until he or she returns.

(Oh, I have heard people tell stories of this happening with cars...)

The other aspects are all nice!
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Just one thing about those fobs that don't have to be inserted into the dash board - if the vehicle is running (car or RV) and the driver is not the one with the key fob, you can be in for a big surprise. Say husband has key fob and drives to work with wife, or wife drives, husband drops off and she drives away. When she gets home or to her work, she can turn it off but not back on again. Same thing could happen with an RV although you are less likely to be in different locations. But, for example, if the person not filling the fuel tank has the fob and goes to the rest room and then stops to pick up some snacks, etc., the RV cannot be moved out of the pump lane until he or she returns.

(Oh, I have heard people tell stories of this happening with cars...)

The other aspects are all nice!
This is probably a little out of line but,,,
Not many things P me off more than someone leaving there vehicle @ the pump,,, while they go shopping or what ever !!! I have a name for them,,, but can not share it here !!!
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I don't disagree but my comment mentioned one person remaining at the pump while the other (with the fob) inadvertently taking it off to the restroom. So this is an unintended bad outcome - not a case of outright rudenes.


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Old 01-16-2016, 11:28 AM   #32
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How about if the battery in the FOB dies in the middle of nowhere and you have no replacement battery?
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Driving a Motorhome NOT as easy as Pushing a Button!

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How about if the battery in the FOB dies in the middle of nowhere and you have no replacement battery?

Most other vehicles with keyless ignition, you can hold the fob close to the button, and push it.


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Driving a Motorhome NOT as easy as Pushing a Button!

They also have a metal shank key, that is removed to unlock the door!







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The site team has had to do yet another cleanup, in yet another thread from some of the same members.

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I have now and have in the past had several vehicles with the fob. They always work--until they don't. My C6 Corvette could not be started with a dead fob battery,even if inserted in the slot. The key gave you access to the trunk which you had to crawl into to try and reach mechanical door release, but still car won't start without new battery. My Huyndai Genesis had to get a new computer (not just reprogrammed) because it wouldn't start. They told me they had ones that wouldn't shut off.

The keyless start on our Ford Edge makes the battery run down while towing.

The XLT has a one key system, so it's not a big deal to carry them. With all the complexities of a mh, I would rather keep it simple.
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The keyless start on our Ford Edge makes the battery run down while towing.

The XLT has a one key system, so it's not a big deal to carry them. With all the complexities of a mh, I would rather keep it simple.

Awesome...finally get to pick the brain of someone who actually owns a XLT!

First...are you flat-towing your Edge? did not know you could.

So one key system - does that apply to the cargo doors as well or is that a separate key.

Would greatly appreciate you starting a Berkshire XLT 43A thread and give the forum a complete review (picts are nice too ) you your new prized possession!
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