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Old 09-10-2013, 07:57 PM   #161
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I have heard from a reliable source that new weight stickers are on the way. Forest River Diesel rocks again.



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Old 09-11-2013, 07:42 PM   #162
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[QUOTE=I-RV;462323]I am hoping that some of you might help me in my quest to determine the difference between the Berkshire 390-40 and 390-60.

Re: What is difference between 390-40 & 390-60

I would appreciate hearing from any 390-60 (360hp) owners that would explore their mohorhome's rear suspension parts list against the one I have provided (which I will provide again).

This will greatly help the 390-40 owners like me. and will certainly be appreciated.
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:15 PM   #163
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Got my new stickers from Forest River in the mail Saturday. The only error I found was the tire size, which they listed as 275/70R22.5H. The tires that were added were 275/80R22.5. The new sticker shows the cold tire pressure to be 120 psi. On the ones I have, the max cold pressure is 110 psi. Anyone else notice the same thing?
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:56 PM   #164
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Same here. Got em Friday and emailed Randy about the error. Haven't heard anything yet. I think I would have preferred the 275/70R22.5 because the ride height and revs/mile would have been almost identical to the original 255/80R22.5.
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Mine also had the same errors with regard to the tires. In addition, my yellow sticker now claims over 2000 pounds less dry weight. Since the original yellow sticker was already likely wrong (by understating actual dry weight), it is really off now. So basically, every bit of info on these new stickers is wrong. I will be emailing Randy.
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My 390-60 BOM list is attached.
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I did email Randy this morning regarding the errors on my updated stickers. He replied indicating he was looking into it and would ensure it is corrected.

My experience with FR has been positive. They have obviously made errors on this weight issue, but are making good efforts to address it. I am unhappy with the weight issue, but do appreciate the responsiveness and actions from FR/Randy.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:16 AM   #168
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Re: What is difference between 390-40 & 390-60

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My 390-60 BOM list is attached.
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Thank you for your efforts and reply. The BOM that you supplied does not drill down far enough to show individual parts. What you supplied shows the master BOM's for your unit.

I'd appreciate if you could drill down further into your BOM C11-00001-000 and feedback to me the parts list for the BOM's whose descriptions are:
Rear Axle Accessories
Suspension - Rear Axle
Shock absorber - Rear

Looking forward to hear from you.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:53 AM   #169
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I'll give it a try.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:31 AM   #170
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Try this one.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:26 PM   #171
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Fwiw.....

All I ever got was a small paper stick-on tag about 1.25 x 3 inches, but nothing else. I got it just a week or two after the work was done.

It says:

Axle Alliance Company
Serial Number (then the actual SN) GAWR 12000 lbs
Part Number C10-00000-253 Model Number F12-3N
(Some bar code) 27110


I wonder if the discontinuance of the RB has anything to do with this whole issue?


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Old 09-16-2013, 03:57 PM   #172
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I have received my Yellow Sticker and my upgrade is scheduled next month. I would rather have your sticker since it show that your FA GAWR is now 12,000 lbs, an improvement of 1,590 lbs over the original GAWR. The Yellow Sticker to me is a guide as to the OCCC, but what really counts is what you actually weigh in relation to GVWR and GAWR (imho)!
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Try this one.
Wow, Edgewant, you went to town. I compared my BOM's (for the 390-40) against yours (for the 390-60) and have found the following ones to be identicle:
Suspension - Rear Axle
Shock Absorber - Rear

My rear axle has a P/N of C11-00002-000, whereas yours has a P/N of C11-00001-000. However, upon comparing the two parts lists, they appear to be the same. A mystery to me is that the parts list does not list parts for every item that is shown in the pictorial such as items 14, 15, 16, etc.

If you could, I'd appreciate your BOM Rear Axle Accessories. This BOM contains the axle's cone bearings which is an essential comparison. It wouldn't hurt to through in the BOM for Brake - Rear, just to be complete.

I am attaching my 390-40 BOM's with some additions.

Anyone else that can help would certainly be outstanding!

[Note that for some reason I do not see my attachments on my I-Pad, but do on my PC. Just in case that you have the problem]
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Old 09-16-2013, 04:46 PM   #174
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I would guess that they will be the same. The 340 is not limited by the rear axel but by the Allison 2500 transmission in my opinion. Of course this is my guess and not fact. I thank you for looking into this further. The end result will be interesting but will not change the load carrying ability of for the folks that tow a toad. It will be a help if you don't and just have a lot of cargo.Again thanks for looking into this.



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I've updated the file with the additional info you requested.

See latest attachment
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Old 10-02-2013, 07:15 PM   #176
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IMO, the Tiffin Allegro Red is probably the closest counterpart to the Berkshire. In looking over the Red's spec's. I see where the FA & RA GWAR, the GVWR and GVWR are the same as the Berkshire's (that is with the upgrade). So are the engine, transmission and 275/80 tires. I'm sure that many of yOu already noticed that. So this is for those that haven't.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #177
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This is is the new stickers I have. They listed the tires as 275/70 not 275/80. Not sure why or how big a deal it is.



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Old 10-02-2013, 09:01 PM   #178
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One of the issues maybe that 275/80 max air is 110 lbs, while 275/70 max air is 120 lbs.
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:45 PM   #179
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FYI for model 390 Berkshire owners: The 2014 400 series Berkshire lists the FA GAWR as 12,000 lbs and has 275/80 tires. I am sure that we all knew it was coming. However FR still needs to do something with the RA GAWR. To do this, they need to use the Allison 3000mh on all models IMHO. FR's desire to have two power option choices puts a damper on my suggestion. Also FYI, the 360hp Cummins is the same engine as the 340hp, except for a chip change. Therefore the big difference in the two power options is the Allison.
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Old 11-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #180
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I may be wrong, but I don't think that the difference between the 340 and 360 is just a chip change. When I changed the oil in my 340 it took 16 quarts with the filter. My new coach with the 360 takes 18 quarts with the filter. Also, the main fuel filter on the 360 is different than that on the 340. So-there are these 2 differences and not sure what other differences in the engine that may exist.
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