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Old 06-11-2014, 01:36 PM   #41
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Have you heard anything from FL or anyone else on problem like I said before this has happen to me twice, it comes right back but still this to me is a problem
All FL has done is tell me that unless I can demonstrate the problem to them, then there is nothing they can/will do for me. I'm waiting for another "victim" to let me know what the response is/was to his email to Corporate Legal dept at Daimler.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:16 PM   #42
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I'm going out for a week of RV'ing and am armed with a dash cam that will document what happened to me on my last outing. I will be sure to share my findings but hope it never happens again... Wishful thinking I'm afraid. After this week out I'll be better equipped to push for a solution and have better knowledge of it and video!
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:16 PM   #43
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I'm going out for a week of RV'ing and am armed with a dash cam that will document what happened to me on my last outing. I will be sure to share my findings but hope it never happens again... Wishful thinking I'm afraid. After this week out I'll be better equipped to push for a solution and have better knowledge of it and video!
HA!! Wanna know where it could have REALLY been a disaster for me yesterday? That is, losing the power steering.... Utah Hwy 12 south of Torrey, UT.

There's an area along that route about .5 to 1.0 miles long, at which point the road is running along a VERY narrow ridge no more than 50-60 feet wide (in total) on the top, and there are sheer drop-offs (on BOTH sides of the road) for what looks like a 1000 feet or more.

And no guardrails, not that most of them would stop a 33,000 lb coach.

I'm quite used to mountain driving, but that stretch of UT12 was enough to make my A**H*** grab my underwear (extreme pucker factor).

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Old 06-12-2014, 08:22 AM   #44
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Ok don't get PO'd at me I'm only trying to help. I just spent some time at the FL booth at the FMCA rally. I had a candid talk with a rep and he said flat out no way can both the engine quit and the display go blank at the same time. He did say that the display going blank ways a common problem and that the display is not installed by FL. The display comes in a parts box and is installed by FR. The display is low voltage and for all the Gage's to go off at the same time the problem is in the plug in. He suggested checking all the connections under the dash and if they are good to check under the MH left rear just behind the tires inside the frame is a large bundle that goes into a box check all the connections. Also on the same spot on the outside of the frame check those also.
I'm not saying it didn't happen he said it couldn't happen at the same time. I think it makes since that the to are separate systems. And for both to go bad at the same time would be unusual. He said that the tach dropping to zero would make the driver think the motor stopped. I will post some pictures hope this helps. Remember I'm just reporting and trying to help.
I need a better connection to send pictures so I will send them later.



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Old 06-12-2014, 08:41 AM   #45
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Did he mention anything about a possible problem with the ignition/ignition wiring? If there is a problem there, then it would be like turning the key to the off position- everything would go blank and the engine would stop. Just thinking out loud here.
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Ok don't get PO'd at me I'm only trying to help. I just spent some time at the FL booth at the FMCA rally. I had a candid talk with a rep and he said flat out no way can both the engine quit and the display go blank at the same time. He did say that the display going blank ways a common problem and that the display is not installed by FL. The display comes in a parts box and is installed by FR. The display is low voltage and for all the Gage's to go off at the same time the problem is in the plug in. He suggested checking all the connections under the dash and if they are good to check under the MH left rear just behind the tires inside the frame is a large bundle that goes into a box check all the connections. Also on the same spot on the outside of the frame check those also.
I'm not saying it didn't happen he said it couldn't happen at the same time. I think it makes since that the to are separate systems. And for both to go bad at the same time would be unusual. He said that the tach dropping to zero would make the driver think the motor stopped. I will post some pictures hope this helps. Remember I'm just reporting and trying to help.
I need a better connection to send pictures so I will send them later.
Get PO'ed???? NO, just the opposite. Thanks for the info.

At least it's probably from someone who KNOWS; not just guessing.

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Old 06-12-2014, 10:51 AM   #47
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Did he mention anything about a possible problem with the ignition/ignition wiring? If there is a problem there, then it would be like turning the key to the off position- everything would go blank and the engine would stop. Just thinking out loud here.
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Yeah, my previous posting assumes the guy REALLY knows what he's talking about; not just tossing off the first thing that comes to his mind.

If/when mine does it again, I'm going to be VERY attentive as to what actually happened. For example, did the engine REALLY stop or just the instruments.

One of mine was rolling down the road; the other was sitting still in a parking lot. The first one everything came back by itself. The second one I had to turn the key off, then restart the engine and THEN all the gauges came back to life.

BOTH times the message panel indicated I need to apply the parking brake.

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Old 06-12-2014, 10:52 AM   #48
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The guy I talked to is the same that helped me work through the front axel issue. Click image for larger version

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Old 06-12-2014, 11:16 AM   #49
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FL could take a lesson from Forest River, IMHO.

Twice in the last few months, my whole computer has shut down whist going down the road at 60 MPH. Speedo, Tach, every gauge goes to zero. Engine stops running as well.

First indication that something is awry, is a beeping and the display says I should apply the parking brake. If I turn off the ignition, wait a few seconds then turn it back on, everything resets and I'm good to go.

Since it's VERY intermittent, I figured I'd give a heads up to FL because it probably wouldn't completely fail until after my warranty runs out in August of this year.

HA!! FL couldn't have been less concerned, telling me that unless I could make it fail in the presense of FL dealership rep before August, it would be tough **** for me. They would not do a thing under warranty.

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I think they should stand behind the product when something happens very intermittently before warranty expiration (but is definitely a defect), but does not fail "hard" until afterward. I suspect it may be either the computer itself, or a sensor throwing a false alarm somewhere.

Either way, it would be VERY expensive to fix, I'd bet.

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The one time for me was heavy cross wind...
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:12 PM   #51
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NO........not raining.

However, I was in a heavy rainstorm going over Donner pass in CA last Sept. Diagnostic connector (by radiator in back) cover had not been replaced by a mechanic.

Stopped for night in rest area. Next morning coach displayed all manner of weird behavior. Like, wipers wouldn't work, but defrost fans would. Then wipers came back and fans quit. Then auto lock on fridge began cycling lock/unlock over and over again, by itself.

This "dance" kept up for several minutes, so I finally just drove off. About an hour down the road toward Reno, everything was operating normally.

I thought the damn coach needed to be exorcised!!

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Old 06-18-2014, 03:03 AM   #52
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I did not read this entire thread so someone may have already posted this information but I also had this problem with my coach shutting down while driving. This is the sort of intermittent problem that could drive someone crazy besides being dangerous. This happened twice to my 2010 Berkshire last year and I was lucky enough to have it happen while I was at FL in Gaffney. The tech brought the coach in for service and could not find anything wrong and no computer codes to help. Luckily for me when he tried to bring the coach out it would not turn over. He replaced my key switch and I have not had this problem again. Hope this information helps.
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Well, had about 14 hours of drive drive time and no "incident". I did talk to a 400gl owner who also had his dash go dead also... We'll both complain to FR and to FL.


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Old 07-29-2014, 04:53 PM   #54
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Thought I'd update you on what happened at Freightliner today... They found a loose/faulty connection to the light bar and said that is what caused my dash controls to go off line. They are replacing the part and said it shouldn't happen again. Hope that true.


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Old 08-02-2014, 06:17 AM   #55
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sorry taken so long getting back was in Cherokee no phone or internet sound like this place has found the problem, were did u get this done? hope they past this on to FL and FR
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Old 08-02-2014, 08:56 AM   #56
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Freightliner in phoenix az and when my part was late and was going to have to delay my travels they said... We have another guy here with the same problem. They gave me his part because he wasn't going out. Sounds like FL knows this problem. FYI changing out part will put gen time back to zero...


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Old 08-02-2014, 12:10 PM   #57
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Do you have any idea what the part is or what it is called or the part number? Also, why do you say that Freightliner knows of this problem? If I call the FL hotline, will they know what I'm talking about?
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Old 08-02-2014, 04:12 PM   #58
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I do not know the part number... When I called FL they knew nothing. When I was at service with FL he had done 3 that week and 2 on the same day. Replacing parts like that just too similar for to be random...
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Which Freightliner service did the repair? Also, didn't they give you any paper work for the repair? If so, that should have a part number on it or a description of what they did.
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The repair was done at the tollison shop in metro phoenix. And I pulled the paper work and the call the board an LBCU (light board control unit?) item no. 001F/a06-89234-004 with a description of... Modular-Driver info, 24 pos, 8 opt

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