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Old 07-28-2015, 04:02 PM   #101
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If you have ever removed the panel below your washer, you will see that there is quite a bit of room to accommodate a standard water heater.

That being said, after several years of fighting with this silly heater it would appear that Kyle from Girard has found a fix.

The Gen1 model came with an auto/low switch that would activate two burner settings. The low setting would only be used if the input temp was rather high.

Apparently the auto switches have a tendency to fail or stick on the low setting.

As indicated on the attached photos .... if you remove outside access panel and look to the back side top left, you will see a round switch with 2 black wires with blue blade connectors.

Remove the two wires frome switch and connect them together. This will change the switch inside coach from auto/low to high/low.

With an input temp of 58f it will give 111f at 1gph and hotter if I slow down the flow.

It works fine with my unit parked on my driveway .... cannot wait to try it out on a trip
Great Info. I hope that works for you mate. Good luck.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:00 AM   #102
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My 2015 Berk came with a Gerard tankless with all the bells and whistle updates from manufacture. Calls to tech support IMO was a waste of time individual kept blaming me on air in lines etc but could not explain why the upper limit was tripping every time it was used. Don't try this at home but maiden voyage out I had to jumper out that limit in order to take a hot shower as opposed to a cold one. On return dealer swapped out Gerard with an Atwood model. So far so good but true test will be camping trip the 4th.
berryland tec in Hammond,la but check value in my water line works great now

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Old 08-14-2015, 02:00 AM   #103
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Please keep us posted on the Atwood Bud.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:13 AM   #104
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Just picked up our new 2016 Berkshire 38A and comes with the Atwood and works great.


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Old 08-14-2015, 06:39 AM   #105
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Gerard water heater in 2015 Berkshire XL

So far so good with new Atwood trip one showed promise in results although had a bad 3 amp fuse (not blown). Trip 2 comes up next week so stay tuned.


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Old 08-14-2015, 08:20 AM   #106
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Our 2015 Legacy came with the Girard unit and didn't work right when we picked the unit up. They replaced the flow sensor (or at least claimed they did) and it still didn't work right. I finally got the folks in the shop to work with the tech at Girard and they seem to have gotten it going....finally. They replaced the flow sensor (again?), the high/low emergency cutoff switch and the adjustable control inside the RV (apparently there was an even newer version I didn't know existed as I already had the updated version) and got hot water, but then the exhaust fan wouldn't shut off. They traced that issue down and replaced the "optional" winter time thermostat control and it is working now. Seems their documentation shows the winter time control as an option but there's no way I can see to tell if it is on there or not. It's apparently a tiny thermostat device that lights the burner for a very short period of time if the water temp drops below 45F in the coil to prevent freezing. Not sure why anyone ever thought that feature should be optional! Anyway, for now all is good. They have committed to me that if I have any more issues at all, they'll pull out the Girard and install the Atwood; the Atwood door is larger, so they have to paint it to match if they do that. Glad to hear the Atwood seems to be working; I think the Girard will work, too, so long as everything holds up. Have a six week trip coming the end of September, so there will be a test!
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:44 AM   #107
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I had a nice chat with the Girard rep and Goshen yesterday. He was very helpful and had a couple of parts I wanted and gave them to me free. Very nice.
We also talked about the ups and downs with the GWH and how far they as a company have come in the six or so years they have been making WH's.
They do have a gen three coming out around the first if the year. It should be starting in some units OEM before that but will be available to aftermarket the first of the year. The difference between the units sounds impressive. The gen lll will be Digital and the temperature set and held to a range of temps from 95-125 I believe. I could be wrong on that as I didn't take notes. He also said the temp would be adjusted by the sensor and if you set it to 105 it will be 105 no matter what the incoming water temp is or what your water pressure is. You will also be able to mix cold water with the hot to get the exact temp you want.
It sound good and good news is it will be able to retro fit in an existing gen l or ll hole. He also was hopeful that with the new technology they would get the Berkshire business back.



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Old 08-14-2015, 09:47 PM   #108
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I got a sneak peak at the Girard gen 3 and it is real slick. It has an lcd panel for controls and setting the precise temp Phil mentioned. Although it will fit in the same cut out as the gen 1 & 2 it does have a distictive new door that will have to be specialy painted to match the coach. Should be available to the public for a swap out in the spring. Looking forward to see how it performs in the beta test.


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We have a Girard gen II in our coach as well. I know we don't have a Berk (we're Berks cousin) I also spoke with the Girard rep here at Goshen, by the way, ours works fine. If you turn it up too high it will shut down the hot to prevent scalding. We don't use The cold line when showering.
The rep told us "find your ideal temp by adjusting the knob, purge all your lines.....here's the kicker.....including your outside shower" Ideally you also want/need at least, very least, 45 psi. You don't have to purge your outside every time.....Just insure it has no air in the line. Hope that helps.
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:49 PM   #110
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That's good info. on the water pressure.
Thank you.
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:31 PM   #111
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I have a 2012 wildcat with a Girard tankless hot water heater....I have had numerous correspondence's with Girard and Forest River...I will never buy any product with a Girard product again... We live in Canada and have a short "troubleshooting" season, topped off with the fact we are not full timers. You think you have it figured out and then it....sucks...too cold.... Too hot...uses too much water...it will work till we trade up...
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Old 09-06-2015, 06:57 AM   #112
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I'm and I haven't even picked up my coach yet. No wonder the previous owners traded in this coach with 4k miles on it, they probably couldn't take a nice relaxing warm shower. Lord please give me the patience to put up with these issues. Least I can benefit from all you've been through.
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Old 09-06-2015, 07:02 AM   #113
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Yours could be equipped with the Atwood. It a little better.

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Old 09-06-2015, 07:18 AM   #114
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Yours could be equipped with the Atwood. It a little better.

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Old 09-06-2015, 07:25 AM   #115
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We have a Girard gen II in our coach as well. I know we don't have a Berk (we're Berks cousin) I also spoke with the Girard rep here at Goshen, by the way, ours works fine. If you turn it up too high it will shut down the hot to prevent scalding. We don't use The cold line when showering.

The rep told us "find your ideal temp by adjusting the knob, purge all your lines.....here's the kicker.....including your outside shower" Ideally you also want/need at least, very least, 45 psi. You don't have to purge your outside every time.....Just insure it has no air in the line. Hope that helps.

Joe, when I first got my coach in March I was befuddled by the water heater fluctuating between very, very hot to cold and back. I was told the exact same thing CSM has quoted above. I would add that turning the hot water on in the bathroom sink and adjusting the temp with the heat knob in the cabinet to an acceptable level is also part of the equation. Keep in mind, the water temperature coming into the coach has a lot to do with the temp of the hot water. I adjust the heater temp with the knob frequently. We haven't had an issue since then and we are full timers. Good Luck.


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Old 09-06-2015, 08:37 AM   #116
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I'm and I haven't even picked up my coach yet. No wonder the previous owners traded in this coach with 4k miles on it, they probably couldn't take a nice relaxing warm shower. Lord please give me the patience to put up with these issues. Least I can benefit from all you've been through.

I have had my Gen ll for a couple of years and we full time. I always have a very nice hot shower. We have had a few issues but they were easy to fix and service from Girard had been very good. Don't worry about all this stuff.



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I'm and I haven't even picked up my coach yet. No wonder the previous owners traded in this coach with 4k miles on it, they probably couldn't take a nice relaxing warm shower. Lord please give me the patience to put up with these issues. Least I can benefit from all you've been through.

Joe, relax bro. I have the Gerad Gen II and I don't have the problems mentioned in this thread.
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We got ours in April and had problems until I got Girard involved and they "schooled" the tech in how to troubleshoot it. Seems to be working great now. Seven week trip coming up at the end of the month will hopefully verify that. Girard tech was really good to work with and very helpful. If nothing else, a standard tank type will fit to replace but you'll have to have the door painted to match your RV.
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Sounds like someone is having a lttle buyers remorse/jitters. I speak from experience here. Know that you will have some problems/issues. Nature of the beast, but the good much outweighs the bad. None of the issues is insurmountable...sometimes just annoying. I did a lot of fretting with mine, but now just look at it like doing maintenance on my house. When I first got mine, a lot of people said that it would take about a year to get everything straightened out and it did. Don't sweat the small details, you can handle most of them yourselves and have a great support system on this forum. Since your coach was previously owned, most issues have probably been addressed. You took the plunge, now enjoy the ride!
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Sounds like someone is having a lttle buyers remorse/jitters. I speak from experience here. Know that you will have some problems/issues. Nature of the beast, but the good much outweighs the bad. None of the issues is insurmountable...sometimes just annoying. I did a lot of fretting with mine, but now just look at it like doing maintenance on my house. When I first got mine, a lot of people said that it would take about a year to get everything straightened out and it did. Don't sweat the small details, you can handle most of them yourselves and have a great support system on this forum. Since your coach was previously owned, most issues have probably been addressed. You took the plunge, now enjoy the ride!

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