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Old 10-10-2015, 09:59 AM   #61
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:00 AM   #62
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How about empty weight from the yellow sticker? Anyone care to compare theirs to mine:

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Empty (dry) weight on mine is listed as 23270

I do have tile floors.

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There's where all of my ccc went, my dry weight is 26084


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Old 10-10-2015, 10:17 AM   #63
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How about empty weight from the yellow sticker? Anyone care to compare theirs to mine:

2011 390RB 40

Empty (dry) weight on mine is listed as 23270

I do have tile floors.

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Boo, that's the lowest dry weight have seen. Did they weigh with absolutely no fluids?


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Old 10-10-2015, 10:25 AM   #64
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How about empty weight from the yellow sticker? Anyone care to compare theirs to mine:

2011 390RB 40

Empty (dry) weight on mine is listed as 23270

I do have tile floors.

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Wow, my yellow sticker dry weight is 25691. 2421 lbs. different. Not even close. Seems like they might have some chimp running the scale printing up these yellow stickers.
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:27 AM   #65
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Boo, that's the lowest dry weight have seen. Did they weigh with absolutely no fluids?


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No idea..... But they're certainly not supposed to weigh with no fluids.

But that's why I have the incredibly high STATED carrying capacity. I'm sure my dry weight is at least 1000 lbs UNDER-stated.

And my understanding is that they only weigh the first unit or two of any new model. Then just add appropriate weight (guesses) for whatever extras them may put in, like tile, 4 door fridge, etc.

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Old 10-10-2015, 10:37 AM   #66
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Sounds like the person that ordered my unit new didn't take into account what he was doing to the cargo weight when he added on extras


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Old 10-10-2015, 10:42 AM   #67
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Mine is 24549. Strang as mine and Boo's are twins. As I have said. The yellow stickers are not accurate and should not be believed. Weigh your rig.



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No idea..... But they're certainly not supposed to weigh with no fluids.

But that's why I have the incredibly high STATED carrying capacity. I'm sure my dry weight is at least 1000 lbs UNDER-stated.

And my understanding is that they only weigh the first unit or two of any new model. Then just add appropriate weight (guesses) for whatever extras them may put in, like tile, 4 door fridge, etc.

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If that were the case we would all have the same data in the stickers. I believe that one of two things happened. In the booth there is a computer that the operator of the scales inputs all of the MH's info. The VIN number and the current fuel level. Remember the weight is base on full fuel LP and def. he enters the info the computer does all the calculations and it prints out a yellow stickers. I have seen this in person. I believe that either the computer had a serious program error or the scale operator had now idea what he was doing.
I know that when all this went down it created a bit of a frenzy in that booth. When the numbers from the scale were compared to what they were seeing all the big shots came out to see and try to figure it out. At one point Matt really pushed me out of the area(nicely) and back into the MH and we left. His comments were that the scale was needing to be calibrated.
That's when Matt told us we needed to empty the MH and bring it back. So we did. I filled the DEF and LP as well ass full fuel and weighed it. The front was 10200 and the rear was 16720 total was 26920 with no one in the MH. These numbers were confirmed by the factory scales. I have somewhere around 1000 lbs cargo capacity. This is the true and accurate number. Anyone thinking that they have more should weigh the MH empty as I did.
Now I know I didn't get what I paid for. I'm ok with that now. My MH dies pretty much what I need it to do. I'm safe I have the Upgrades done in the steer axle and although slightly overweight I full time and carry everything thing I need to do that. I happy with my MH and I feel very safe driving it. That said I did my homework. I know to the pound what I weigh. I have a four point weight and will get a four point every couple of years. I suggest anyone who hasn't do so.



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Old 10-10-2015, 11:20 AM   #70
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Phil my scale weight is exactly 1000 lbs over yours on the gross weight. That was done when I picked it up. Had full fuel and water with wife and I inside but other than that empty. Steer axle was 10560, drive axle was 17360.
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Joe remember I have a 340 you have a 360. My GVW is 27900.



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Old 10-10-2015, 11:35 AM   #72
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At one point Matt really pushed me out of the area(nicely) and back into the MH and we left. His comments were that the scale was needing to be calibrated.
Perhaps they had figured out that they had really screwed up and were circling the wagons??

I know I've been ragging on this for almost three years. Like you I love my Berk and the good jobs it's done for me. I don't worry about the (maybe) 2-4 hundred lbs over on the R/A; I believe that the R/A will actually do 19500 without a whimper.

HOWEVER, there is the legal side of if it I'm ever in an accident. First thing the opposing lawyer is going to do is weigh the coach. My DW was in that business for over 25 years, so knows how shifty those guys can be to get a settlement "upped".

When I was driving semi, the FIRST thing the DOT would do (right at the scene) would be to weigh the rig. Yes, the do have portable scales. When I had my accident in my semi the local cop said that he wished we could get the scene cleared before the DOT found out about it. Like the old Irish proverb... "May you be in heaven for an hour before the devil knows you're dead"??

Luckily, we did get it cleared before the FEDS found out.

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Yes Matt was covering their butt. I wasn't much of a Matt fan after that whole ordeal.
I only post this to give an idea of what real weight is on a 2011 390 RB 340 HP. I wish that I had weighed my MH before I bought it. If I ever buy another one I will weigh it before I come close to deciding if I will buy it. It's so easy and cheap to get a weight.



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Is this your dry weight??

I've weighed mine several time, but never dry.

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Joe remember I have a 340 you have a 360. My GVW is 27900.

No I do have a 340 also.
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Phil my scale weight is exactly 1000 lbs over yours on the gross weight. That was done when I picked it up. Had full fuel and water with wife and I inside but other than that empty. Steer axle was 10560, drive axle was 17360.
Water comes out of YOUR listed payload carrying capacity not part of the dry weight.

Half a tank would be around 400 lbs, I believe.

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Mine is 24549. Strang as mine and Boo's are twins. As I have said. The yellow stickers are not accurate and should not be believed. Weigh your rig.
Yep, six number apart on VIN, IIRC.

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Sorry Joe I thought you had a 360.
Boo that weight was with as little water as I good do. I had just empty B&G tanks. This is as close as I could come to a dry weight. Empty Water empty B&G full fluids as in fuel DEF and LP. Also as stated no one in the MH.



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When Matt had us go home and empty the MH I took 835 lbs out of it. I think we had a good supply of stuff. Grill chairs food and clothing. That type of stuff. That was before we went full time. I think it would be an fair start to what a full camping gear would weigh.



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Your sticker is messed up. Probably messed up weighing it. You only going to know the truth by weighing it. Anybody else notice the sticker is incomplete? The water stats show "0" per gallon. I wish!
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