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Old 10-10-2015, 03:24 PM   #81
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These are messed up too. No driver or passenger?
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:07 PM   #82
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These are messed up too. No driver or passenger?

Nope. That's why I had a upgrade on the front axle.



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Old 10-11-2015, 07:45 AM   #83
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Is this your dry weight??

I've weighed mine several time, but never dry.

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Prior to getting authorized for the axle/ tires upgrade, I was asked by FR to jump through hoops. FR wanted a four corner empty weight.

I emptied all cargo, kitchen, clothes, books, everything into my garage. I couldn't find four corner weighing, so I got axle weighing at a CAT scale. With me my DW in (300 lbs), half tank of water (350 lbs., full fuel and propane, my weight was:

10,480 lbs front axle
17,280 lbs rear axle

AS you can see, for two light-weight passengers and a half tank of water, I was over the 10,410 lbs GWAR and 220 lbs from the rear axle GWAR. I do have the double wide cargo slide tray; which is the only extra item over a standard 390 BH. As you may note the 340 Berk doesn't even have enough capacity to take a lunch.

FR quite clearly understood that the front axle capacity would do them in and is why they upgraded the front axle to 12,000 lbs. and of course the tires which were at their limits.

After getting authorized, I typically weigh in at 11,120 lbs front and 18,200 lbs. rear. With my light CRV toad, I am like 33,200 lbs total. I feel that the rear axle is actually 19, 000 lbs capable.FR doesn't admit this because if you had 19,000 lbs, the Allison 2500MH would be over limit with your toad. - Hank
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:06 PM   #84
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Prior to getting authorized for the axle/ tires upgrade, I was asked by FR to jump through hoops. FR wanted a four corner empty weight.

I emptied all cargo, kitchen, clothes, books, everything into my garage. I couldn't find four corner weighing, so I got axle weighing at a CAT scale. With me my DW in (300 lbs), half tank of water (350 lbs., full fuel and propane, my weight was:

10,480 lbs front axle
17,280 lbs rear axle

AS you can see, for two light-weight passengers and a half tank of water, I was over the 10,410 lbs GWAR and 220 lbs from the rear axle GWAR. I do have the double wide cargo slide tray; which is the only extra item over a standard 390 BH. As you may note the 340 Berk doesn't even have enough capacity to take a lunch.

FR quite clearly understood that the front axle capacity would do them in and is why they upgraded the front axle to 12,000 lbs. and of course the tires which were at their limits.

After getting authorized, I typically weigh in at 11,120 lbs front and 18,200 lbs. rear. With my light CRV toad, I am like 33,200 lbs total. I feel that the rear axle is actually 19, 000 lbs capable.FR doesn't admit this because if you had 19,000 lbs, the Allison 2500MH would be over limit with your toad. - Hank
Hank, you've done more on this than I, but shouldn't the R/A be good to 19,500?

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Old 10-13-2015, 07:21 AM   #85
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Hank, you've done more on this than I, but shouldn't the R/A be good to 19,500?

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My comparisons of the BOM's (Bills of Materials) show the 340 and 360 to be the same. As I previously stated that I typically weigh-in around 18,100 lbs at the rear axle. I wouldn't be able to carry my lunch if I didn't go over.

If one was to be 19,000 rear and 12,000 front, the total GVWR is then 31,000 lbs, leaving 2,000lbs for your toad because of the 33,000 lbs GCWR due to the Allison 2500MH. This is why FR is mum on the subject.

I will not endorse to anyone that the rear axle can carry 19,000 lbs., however. It is each motorhome's owner's decision. - Hank
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Old 10-13-2015, 08:13 PM   #86
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I was not able to add in to the conversation as I did not have my coach until late last week.

I have a 2008 390QS not bunk house. I have a cargo capacity of 3676 lbs dry. With full water, propane and fuel it is 2492 lbs. I had the coach weighted at Goshen and came in 100 lbs over in the rear. Last spring I upgraded my tires to XZA2 which can carry an addition 1500 lbs over the XRV that came on the coach so I think I am OK. What I did find interesting was my front weights matched to the pound however my rear weight weight showed the passenger side 1000 pounds heaver than the driver side. I put effort into balancing my cargo load. I had full water and about 3/4 propane and full fuel. Looking at the coach I cannot figure where the 1000 pounds is on the passenger side. I wounder if the scales were accurate or what Forest River has done.

Has anyone else got actual rear weights?
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Old 10-18-2015, 03:33 PM   #87
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So, I've gotten a lot of good info from you folks on this thread, but, back to my original question.

Would removing my slide out cargo tray save enough weight to make it worthwhile?
I've sent an email to FR customer service but haven't gotten a rely back yet.


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Old 10-18-2015, 04:08 PM   #88
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So, I've gotten a lot of good info from you folks on this thread, but, back to my original question.

Would removing my slide out cargo tray save enough weight to make it worthwhile?
I've sent an email to FR customer service but haven't gotten a rely back yet.


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No. The convenience far exceeds the added weight. IMHO


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Old 10-18-2015, 04:24 PM   #89
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Weighs about 100 lbs. Not much in the grand scheme of things.
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Old 10-18-2015, 06:33 PM   #90
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I would only consider removing the tray if i needed the hight for storage. I don't have anything that tall that I haul around so I keep the tray. I agree the convenience out is greater than any weight savings.



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Old 10-18-2015, 06:39 PM   #91
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So, I've gotten a lot of good info from you folks on this thread, but, back to my original question.

Would removing my slide out cargo tray save enough weight to make it worthwhile?
I've sent an email to FR customer service but haven't gotten a rely back yet.


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Your yellow sticker shows a dry weight of 26084 while the VIN show a GVWR of 27910.

If you consider full water to equal 764, full propane to equal 113, weight of 100 gallons diesel is about 700 and two people to equal 308 this adds to 1885 pounds. These are estimates. Subtract 1885 from 27910 and you get 26025. Pretty close to the 26084 dry weight of your yellow sticker. This would tell me that with full fuel, water, propane, and two people you can carry an additional 1022 pounds of cargo, again yellow sticker.

Now you have a 340 engine so you have XRV tires. There max load is 29630 which is near the coach limit now. I would not push them much harder. My buddy had two blow outs with them on his Berkshire.

Should you remove the tray? I would. I would also look around the coach and unload any other item not needed. As I said in my first post the board under the bed is good for maybe 30 pounds. I took out the steal rack pantry. It weighed about 100 pounds. Look around for more. Do not carry a lot of heave china or pots and pans or tools. If you do not carry water that is another 764 pounds of cargo you can carry. Make sure you go to the bathroom is rest areas and not in your coach. This is the price you pay for all that nice stone. I like my vinyl.

Get the coach weighed
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:09 PM   #92
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Silver,

Interesting...I was figuring water would come out of my 1022 lbs so I drained all fresh water off that I could to have that 700 lbs available.

Would be nice to be able to carry some fresh water since I do appreciate a working toilet onboard. A 1/4 tank would be plenty for use between destinations.


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Old 10-19-2015, 09:05 AM   #93
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The key number is the 27910. You do not want to get to far over that. I am sure your yellow sticker if computed as I have done it.
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Old 10-20-2015, 04:20 PM   #94
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So, I've gotten a lot of good info from you folks on this thread, but, back to my original question.

Would removing my slide out cargo tray save enough weight to make it worthwhile?
I've sent an email to FR customer service but haven't gotten a rely back yet.


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I think I said this a zillion times; get your rig weighed at a truck stop with your toad. You will get three weights; steer axle, rear axle and trailer. You need to request from FR, a front axle upgrade and tires. They will need your weights.

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Not only did I keep my tray, I added a second one. I was able to pick up either one (before installation) and carry it with one hand. Therefore, I doubt it's over 60-70 lbs in weight.

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Where did you install a second one, my one fills up the entire two door bay


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They make a smaller version that fits in the last bay.


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Old 10-22-2015, 02:40 PM   #98
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Ok, sounds like the larger one probably weighs around 130-150 lbs then.




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Mine is in the front bay single door.
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Mine is in the front bay single door.
Yep, mine too.... I put the second one in right behind the first one. So instead of 1 double, I have 2 single width.

Having said that, maybe a double width would be in the 100 lb range.

BTW, my second one is a MorGlide.... FAR superior than the POS EasyGlide that FR installed at the factory.

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