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05-19-2019, 09:46 AM
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Anybody have one of these?
https://www.microair.net/products/ea...r-conditioners
Apparently you can run your AC with a regular 2000 generator. It controls the initial surge of the AC which allows the Generator to run . You don’t need dual 2000’s or a huge generator
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05-19-2019, 10:30 AM
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I installed one on my motorhome A/C. Before the A/C would bog down my onboard generator to a stop. Now the generator can run the A/C with no problem. Installation was easy following some internet videos.
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05-19-2019, 10:52 AM
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Added one to my 21ss and now run the A/C with my single honda EU2200. Lot easier than having to haul my EU3000 around! Highly recommend, and do an internet search and you'll probably find a coupon code to get a few bucks off.
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05-19-2019, 04:27 PM
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I’ve toyed with it but electricity is scary!
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05-19-2019, 04:35 PM
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Heard they work well. Not sure why you could not use a delay circuit on the fan wire for $10 but it comes with good instructions. Lots of threads here about them. They can run a single AC with a 2000w inverter generator but in many cases that is all they run to the point that you have to shut off breakers for everything else.
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05-19-2019, 05:10 PM
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Tons o' threads here on this very topic, a quick search will tell you everything you need to know.
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05-19-2019, 05:59 PM
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Yes, many have successfully used the Micro-Air EasyStart unit to run an AC with a 2000W generator. I’m curious .... how much power do you have left to use for everything else with the AC running?
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05-20-2019, 11:00 AM
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I don't think I can run my A/C and micro at the same time, but never really use the microwave. Our 21ss has all LED lights so running lights isn't an issue with the A/C going. As for hook up...super easy, I recommend following the YouTube videos for hook up, easier than the instructions.
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05-20-2019, 11:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffywhitedogs
I’ve toyed with it but electricity is scary!
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One good thing about working on camper 120VAC, is you unplug the shore power, turn off any generator or inverter then there is no shock hazard or danger.
Now if you are not comfortable working with dead wires or following the instructions then it should be hired out as it could cause issues when power is re-applied if not done correctly.
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05-20-2019, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by itat
Yes, many have successfully used the Micro-Air EasyStart unit to run an AC with a 2000W generator. I’m curious .... how much power do you have left to use for everything else with the AC running?
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RUNNING current on an A/C is around 10-11 amps or 1200-1300 watts, depending.
A Honda 2000 Inverter will only run 1600 watts continuously so you could probably still run a a laptop charger (mine is 120W) or two. Maybe an outside kitchen Refrigerator (mine consumes 96 watts).
The Converter will no doubt need to be shut down (most consume 800-1,000 watts when charging low batteries).
A 2000 watt generator is a lot like a "Compact" pickup truck. Very useful if you are using it to pick up a few bags of mulch, or a few pieces of lumber. However, the more you expect it to carry at the same time, the more disappointed you are.
For me, I figured that since my trailer was wired for a 30 amp supply, why not just get a nice quiet "30 amp" Inverter/Generator. No mod necessary for my A/C and I can still use other AC appliances like microwave when A/C is running. No lifting required either. Generator sits on a platform, manufactured for this purpose, on the rear bumper. Platform and bumper reinforcement cost less than the Micro Aire and the "30 amp" inverter cost the same as a Honda 2000.
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05-20-2019, 12:18 PM
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I have been studying on the soft start a bit.... It appears there are various uses for these. Some industrial and some consumer use.
I really don’t understand what it does other than delay the compressor start till after the fan is running. I feel that could be done other ways.
Wouldn’t a deal like this do very similar???
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05-20-2019, 02:30 PM
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Junior Member
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Can you run AC on 20 amp shore power?
Will one of these Micro-Air EasyStart add-on units let you start and run a 15,000 BTU AC on 20 amp shore power (assuming no other heavy load)?
Greg
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05-20-2019, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BjceyzF
Will one of these Micro-Air EasyStart add-on units let you start and run a 15,000 BTU AC on 20 amp shore power (assuming no other heavy load)?
Greg
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With a 30/50 amp cord and a quality adapter(I have never seen a 20 amp) your
a/c should have no trouble on that reliable service.
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05-20-2019, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BjceyzF
Will one of these Micro-Air EasyStart add-on units let you start and run a 15,000 BTU AC on 20 amp shore power (assuming no other heavy load)?
Greg
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Have you tried it? The Coleman Mach 15 in my 2019 will start and run fine on a 15 amp circuit without any external assistance.
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05-21-2019, 07:18 AM
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Watch this video before you buy anything.
Jump to 5:25 watch to 9:00 to see real time testing.
https://youtu.be/yjK1Gi_u6ss
I know it's a sailboat.
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05-21-2019, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTDunltd
Watch this video before you buy anything.
Jump to 5:25 watch to 9:00 to see real time testing.
https://youtu.be/yjK1Gi_u6ss
I know it's a sailboat.
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Pretty convincing.
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05-21-2019, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Someone with an easy start can you explain how it is any different than a time delay to the compressor? Does it do more than that?
The time delay to kick on a compressor is cheap. I get that easy start provides a nice package and instructions but $300 mark up seems extreme to me. Just curious if there is more to them than the compressor delay.
I have no doubt they work. I am only asking about additional functionality.
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05-21-2019, 09:31 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Interesting
Quote:
Originally Posted by LTDunltd
Watch this video before you buy anything.
Jump to 5:25 watch to 9:00 to see real time testing.
https://youtu.be/yjK1Gi_u6ss
I know it's a sailboat.
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Thanks ... very informative video!
We (noobs) have only used our AC on 30 amp shore power to date. Just booked a week at an Ohio State Park with only 20 amps on the pedestal. Was wondering if we will throw the circuit breaker on the 20 amp circuit when starting up.
Will find out ... nice to know about the Micro-Air EasyStart solution if needed.
Also ... here's an install video:
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05-22-2019, 02:45 PM
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Junior Old Fart
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbledan
Someone with an easy start can you explain how it is any different than a time delay to the compressor? Does it do more than that?
The time delay to kick on a compressor is cheap. I get that easy start provides a nice package and instructions but $300 mark up seems extreme to me. Just curious if there is more to them than the compressor delay.
I have no doubt they work. I am only asking about additional functionality.
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what-does-easystarttm-do-and-how-does-it-work
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05-22-2019, 02:48 PM
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Junior Old Fart
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BjceyzF
Thanks ... very informative video!
We (noobs) have only used our AC on 30 amp shore power to date. Just booked a week at an Ohio State Park with only 20 amps on the pedestal. Was wondering if we will throw the circuit breaker on the 20 amp circuit when starting up.
Will find out ... nice to know about the Micro-Air EasyStart solution if needed.
Also ... here's an install video:
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I've run my coolcat on a 15 amp circuit with no problems. Just make sure your battery is fully charged, & don't use other high amperage AC equipment. IE; microwave.
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