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Old 09-15-2020, 12:37 PM   #1
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Hi! And how to wire Winegard Gateway in 192RBS

Greetings! First time travel trailer owner.

Documenting this for posterity, may the google grant anyone who is trying to install a Winegard Gateway Wifi Cell LTE extender in their Forest River Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS this wisdom:

The green/white wire is positive
The white wire is ground

The location where it mounts, if you line it up as the manual describes, will collide with the slide-out when you bring it back in. Move it forward ~2 inches.

The fuse for this is behind the main control panel, beneath two black covers in the cabinet above the sink. It's a 3 amp fuse wired off the Awning Lights.

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Old 10-19-2020, 04:48 AM   #4
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Welcome, and thanks for the posting. Documenting stuff like this is indeed important for others to find, and very helpful.

I too installed a Winegard Gateway in my 192RBS and, like you, discovered that where they drilled the hole to bring the power, ground, and three tiny coax antenna wires down from the ceiling was too close to the slide. Had I installed the Gateway there, it would have either damaged the slide or more likely ripped the Gateway right off the ceiling. Sloppy work. I too had to move the Gateway towards the front of the unit by about 2 inches.

However I had a second problem to contend with. They didn't connect the power and ground wires up for my unit. Those two wires were present, but they were just completely dead. More sloppy work, and much more impactful too. I thought about installing the Gateway inside the Air 360+ on the roof, which is one of the options, but I wanted the unit inside the RV in case I wanted easy access to swap out one SIM card for another.

Alas I couldn't see a way to fish a 12V power and ground pair easily through the ceiling, so I had to purchase a 110V AC to 12V DC converter, along with some lamp cord, cable cover, and double-sided sticky tape, then run power to the unit separately from one of my electrical outlets. A bit annoying, as I shouldn't have had to do that, but it was a one-and-done fix and now it works great.

I'm very happy with the Winegard GW-1000 Gateway 4G LTE WiFi Router, and the Winegard Air 360+ on the roof (not so much happy with Freedom Express for their installation quality control). Winegard has decades of experience in the hardware design of quality antennas. Some of the antennas on the Apollo 11 spacecraft were designed and built by Winegard. Having a quality roof-mounted omnidirectional VHF/UHF and FM antenna really pulls in weak cellular, WiFi, and TV/radio signals, and does it well. The software user interface in the Gateway could be a bit improved, and it's very slow to boot up and slow to swap input RF sources, but for sure I'd buy it again. Hopefully Winegard's recent (August 2020) acquisition of WiFiRanger will bring software talent to the company that will result in improved software in future products. The Winegard Gateway app is helpful; that's what I always use now to configure the Gateway each trip.

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Old 10-19-2020, 08:44 AM   #5
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Did you check the fuse was good? Mine was blown, but it might have been from my trying to wire it up with what seemed like the obvious wiring combination at first. The fuse was an inline style 3amp connector located in the wiring behind the control panel, I accessed it by removing screws from the black molded plastic panels and sliding one of them up. It would be nice if it was easier to get to that.

I also recently found the water pump after it leaked a bit of water, it's under the slide out drawer that opens to the outside, you can remove that drawer to access it. I'll have to figure out how to use that to winterize it soon.
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Old 10-19-2020, 09:26 PM   #6
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Good question. I couldn't see any fuses back there, but in fairness I didn't take the rear panels completely off, because I wasn't sure I could get the rear screws back in. I'd have to do that with my left hand, blind, standing on a step stool. I'm just not that coordinated. Kudos to you!
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However removing the two screws on the outside allowed me to bend the thin plastic panels far enough back to get a good view inside. What I saw was a wiring harness, with wire terminals going into standard connectors, and a small PCB.
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I could not see any fuses at all. However I did notice one of the wires was left dangling, and not plugged in to anything:
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Is this the disconnected power & ground wires for the Gateway? Could be. Is this just a left-over wire, assuming the wiring harness is a standard configuration shared by multiple units? (For example as you know the 192RBS has an extra set of LED lights for a second tank that doesn't exist.) That's possible too. There could be another explanation that I haven't even thought of yet.

It's certainly possible I overlooked something, but I couldn't find anything that was unambiguously related to the Gateway.

And by the way, the very first thing that I did when I attempted to install the Gateway was to use a multimeter to probe the two power-capable wires, to determine which was power and which was ground. Nothing. I'm confident that I didn't blow a fuse; those wires were dead from the get-go.

I'd love to charge those two wires; then I could remove the 12V DC power/ground wires that I ran to the unit from an AC outlet converter. I color matched the cable covers: tan for the wall and white for the short run across the ceiling. Most people probably wouldn't even notice they were there if I didn't tell them. But of course I know.

The pictures are with the slide not extended, to better highlight where I ran the wires. Once the slide goes out, it's even harder to see most of the wiring covers, because it's hidden behind the slide molding for most of the run. I plug the small AC to DC converter into the AC outlet by the little shelf beside the slide sofa.
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Old 10-19-2020, 09:31 PM   #7
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I got a Word document (.doc) from Forest River describing the Gateway install, and it said that the gateway was powered off the awning light switch. In mine it was a 3 amp inline fuse, on the wire.
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It might be the plastic block that's near the blue arrow in your picture, a bit down and to the left of it.
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I got a Word document (.doc) from Forest River describing the Gateway install, and it said that the gateway was powered off the awning light switch. In mine it was a 3 amp inline fuse, on the wire.
Are you saying that to charge the Gateway, you have to turn the awning light switch on? If so, that would certainly explain why I had no power.

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Old 10-20-2020, 08:25 AM   #10
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It's wired so that it gets power all the time, it's just wired off of the awning light switch constant power leg. You should be able to find that switch, locate the two wires off of it, and (hopefully) spot an inline fuse block.

I took the two screws out of the lower plastic molded cover and lifted it up and almost immediately saw this fuse block with a popped purple fuse in it, so I didn't have to dig around very much.
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Awesome reply. Next time I have my RV out (might not be until next spring though, TBD) I'll have to check this out.

Very helpful! Thanks yet again.

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