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Old 12-06-2013, 11:16 PM   #1
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We purchased a Dish receiver and Tailgater from CW. After trying to program it from our CC, we were advised by the Dish tech who came to our site, that the Tailgater was not powerful enough to get signals from three satellites. Instead, we were told CW SHOULD program it. They refused! The Dish tech used a satellite antenna at our site.

Here's what we SHOULD have done: per Dish, we should have called them, they would have sold us the identical equipment for the same price, installed it and programmed it.
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:50 AM   #2
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We purchased a Dish receiver and Tailgater from CW. After trying to program it from our CC, we were advised by the Dish tech who came to our site, that the Tailgater was not powerful enough to get signals from three satellites. Instead, we were told CW SHOULD program it. They refused! The Dish tech used a satellite antenna at our site.

Here's what we SHOULD have done: per Dish, we should have called them, they would have sold us the identical equipment for the same price, installed it and programmed it.
This sounds hookey to me.

A) if its the same Equipment how could it be "more" powerful?

B) I've "never" heard that a dish or tailgater doesn't have enough power to get satellites.

C) there's no programming to be done on a tailgater.

I can't wrap my head around the line this dish guy was feeding you.

I occasionally use a good ole dish to watch satellite while camping by manually tunning it in myself..... I guess I have more power to tune in my ole 5 year old dish....

If I'm lazy I use the wineguard carry out "not made by dish network" which more or less the same as a tailgater.

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Old 12-07-2013, 12:59 AM   #3
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What I said was PROGRAM. The tailgater isn't strong enough to get enough satellites in order to PROGRAM the receiver. The RECEIVER must be programmed. You don't have Dish, I'll bet.
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What I said was PROGRAM. The tailgater isn't strong enough to get enough satellites in order to PROGRAM the receiver. The RECEIVER must be programmed. You don't have Dish, I'll bet.
I do have dish .
I've had it for 18 years.

Its still garbage that he told you the tailgater isn't "strong" enough.
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:13 AM   #5
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This is all the " fancy programing " that is required of a tailgater.




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Old 12-07-2013, 06:47 AM   #6
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What I said was PROGRAM. The tailgater isn't strong enough to get enough satellites in order to PROGRAM the receiver. The RECEIVER must be programmed.
I'm not sure I understand this. The satellite antennas (like the tailgater) are passive, and get their power from the receiver itself via the coax (which can be a problem sometimes when using the wrong coax (RG59) or if it has loose/broken connectors).

Here is the FAQ's on the Tailgater, which will also show you which receivers are compatible with the Tailgater, so you can check to make sure that is not the problem.

Portable Satellite TV Antenna - TV Outdoors For Tailgater | DISH
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:25 AM   #7
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You’re being fed a load of crap OL Creeker. You weren’t talking to DISH you were talking to a contractor or local franchise for DISH that is trying to get extra bucks from you.

Anytime we wouldn’t use our tailgater for more than a couple of weeks it would have to be reprogrammed. Many times we would have to call the DISH 800 number to reprogram. Also every time we moved locations we would have to have the receiver run a scan again.

HINTS: It actually helps to set the Tailgater a couple of feet off the ground.

As wmtire mentioned you MUST use the correct co-axial cable from the wall plate connector in your RV to the receiver. (Info in the owners manual)

You have to have a clear shot to the Southern sky. If you don’t you’re not going to get any signals.

All the information you need to set up the Tailgater is in the owners manuals.

Most DISH operators at the 800 number are clueless, be sure to ask for someone familiar with the RV Tailgater program.

We gave up on our Tailgater because most of the time we didn’t have a clear shot to a southern sky and even when we did we would only get two of the three satellites. It was rare to get the satellite that carried the HD programming so we usually had to settle for standard definition.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:41 AM   #8
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My Tailgater came with the correct coax cable, 50 feet of it. So hopefully that isn't the problem here. As others said, there is not really any programming if you have the right receiver, AND a clear view of the sky in the direction of the satellites. You do have to go through a couple of procedures which come up automatically once you power the system up.

Creeker, do you have a smartphone? If so, I'll post a couple of free apps which make it easier to figure out where to set your Tailgater to get a clear view of the sats. This comes into play when you have trees at your campsite.
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This sounds hookey to me.

A) if its the same Equipment how could it be "more" powerful?

B) I've "never" heard that a dish or tailgater doesn't have enough power to get satellites.

C) there's no programming to be done on a tailgater.

I can't wrap my head around the line this dish guy was feeding you.

I occasionally use a good ole dish to watch satellite while camping by manually tunning it in myself..... I guess I have more power to tune in my ole 5 year old dish....

If I'm lazy I use the wineguard carry out "not made by dish network" which more or less the same as a tailgater.

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X2 on this.

Part of what he said is good advice, buy directly from Dish, I saw the Tailgater at a local RV dealer at over $500, got mine from Dish from their web site for $350 (over a year ago).

I have had no problems getting all 3 three sats as long as there is no trees or such in the way. The Tailgater gets it's power from the receiver the same way the dish on your home base unit does.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:15 AM   #10
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I bought the tailgater package from Walmart.com. It included the receiver and cables also.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:28 PM   #11
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The saga continues! The Dish tech was of no help - Jersey Boy was - from across the country! I did what he said - connected the receiver directly to the tailgater - voila! We have TV. The wiring in our CC is not right - yes, I tried all the connections. DW came up with a possible solution, since putting the cable through a window isn't conducive to retaining heat! I'm going to install a coax box on the exterior of the slide behind the entertainment system, with an aesthetically pleasing box. Whadday think?
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Without knowing exactly what wiring you have, I'm guessing you have only one incoming cable with a jack on the side of your trailer. If so, you can do this modification. It works great, and allows you to use either your satellite or park cable by simply making a change of connections at the inside wall plate. Basically, the mod takes your incoming cable and separates it off, away from the antenna power supply. So it becomes just a plain cable available for you to hook to. Then, when you want to use park cable TV instead, you connect a short jumper cable across the front of the plate to connect the incoming cable back to where it was originally hooked from the factory. I've done this mod, and used it with a tailgater. It works.

http://www.tv4rv.com/wiring.pdf

FR has just started doing a version of this on the Sunseeker Class Cs.
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Old 12-08-2013, 10:36 AM   #13
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My Silverback had two connection for satellite on the wall plate near the television. One is for a pre-wired roof top satellite and the other is for a ground based satellite dish. Are you sure you are connected to the right one?
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