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01-10-2021, 05:48 AM
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Water heater/microwave not Work
Hi in my Salem Grand Loft. 2019 Importiert nach Deutschland..
Elektrik was Made With 220to 110 Volt Bronson 10 kW/H converter. microvave and Water heater dont Work Switch is On. And microwave started but Only light and Programming Funktion on but no full Power for cooking. Need thus Geräte 120 volt or 110 volt. ?
All other Funktion
Best to you all.
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01-10-2021, 10:07 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Here in the US many folks refer to shore power as either 110v or 120v with 120v being the correct terminology @60 Hz.
Either voltage is fine if you are measuring with a meter as the voltage will fluctuate somewhere between those readings when using things. Voltages starting nearer 120v is preferred.
If your converter device is working and actually producing 110v @60Hz, your appliances should work.
You may not be able to use all your appliances at once with that voltage since each appliance in use, will lower the voltage somewhat.
Anything below 107v gets into the category of possible damage to the appliance.
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01-10-2021, 10:48 AM
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If you are using this converter as you say, your microwave, television and any other electronics that requires 60 HZ frequency might not work properly. See note below.
https://bronson-energy.com/product/bronson-wti-10000/
from website:
Please note that WTI Series voltage converters will convert only the AC voltage and not convert the AC frequency (Hz) between 50Hz and 60Hz and so may not be suitable for all applications. Please check with the maker of your load devices to ensure compatibility with both 50Hz and 60Hz power supply.
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01-10-2021, 11:09 AM
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#1 - All the above comments are correct. Voltage (110 - 120v) & frequency (60 Hz) must be converted properly and be steady otherwise, damage to the appliances could occur.
#2 - Looking at your water heater. The incoming water line near the floor looks like the valve is closed not allowing water to enter the heater tank. Now, if the water heater was working and was turned on while the tank was empty, then the heating element may have burnt out and will need to be replaced first.
First. test the entire electric installation for proper voltage & frequency both incoming and outgoing (after the converter). Then make sure the water heater has water in it and check the integrity of the heating element if it still doesn't get hot.
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01-10-2021, 07:18 PM
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Yes...we had the 50 hz vs. 60 hertz problem on our boat when visiting Euro current countries. 110 V and 50Hz works fine on the little stuff but not on big things like AC, Microwave & older TV's. Cords used to get too hot to touch. They DO make automatic voltage AND frequency converters but you're probably looking at a $1000-3000 bill to get one that will handle the loads installed.
https://www.powerxchanger.com/store/...z-to-120v60hz/
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01-11-2021, 09:18 AM
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Thank you all but the Pictures Shows there are other. Problem in the House. Normaly 50 HZ musst do Work. Water pressure ist load 2.5 Bar Voltage ist 110 V what can we so?
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01-11-2021, 12:52 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 42DL
Thank you all but the Pictures Shows there are other. Problem in the House. Normaly 50 HZ musst do Work. Water pressure ist load 2.5 Bar Voltage ist 110 V what can we so?
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There is a bit of a language barrier here but the tag clearly shows the water heater to work on EITHER 50 or 60 Hz @120v.
So... you need to determine if that voltage is getting to the water heater.
Do you own a multimeter and know how to use it?
Is there water in the tank for certain?
If you applied voltage to the element before filling the tank, both the element (1500w according to the sticker) could be burned out.
Having someone testing with a meter and electrical knowledge would be helpful.
It could be something as simple as a breaker not being latched in the power distribution box. Also some water heaters have a pigtail on them that plugs into an outlet. Often times they are simply not plugged in.
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01-11-2021, 02:11 PM
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120 oder 110
Hi there,
yes we have measured yes I have a professional electrician for 230 volts 110 volts is constantly on the water heater.Water ist Safe Gilles in If the top and bottom are burned out, the overload fuse red button on the Water Heater has to pop out or the 15AH fuse in the closet has to pop out.but both are OK 150 PSI is a lot.we have Herr Maximum 75 PSI
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01-11-2021, 02:41 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 42DL
Hi there,
yes we have measured yes I have a professional electrician for 230 volts 110 volts is constantly on the water heater.Water ist Safe Gilles in If the top and bottom are burned out, the overload fuse red button on the Water Heater has to pop out or the 15AH fuse in the closet has to pop out.but both are OK 150 PSI is a lot.we have Herr Maximum 75 PSI
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150 PSI is the MAXIMUM pressure the tank will withstand. It does not mean you have to have 150 PSI for it to work.
It will work fine on 75 PSI.
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01-12-2021, 02:26 PM
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That heater only has 1 lower 1500 watt element. The label shows blank for any wlwment wattage. The lower element still needs to be checked unless, as I mentioned in my previous post, you're getting cold water because the plumbing valves are in bypass mode.
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01-13-2021, 03:39 PM
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Thank you all found The Problem Heater was burned.
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01-13-2021, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
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Thank you all found The Problem Heater was burned.
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I assume you mean the water heater electric element was burned out, not the water heater itself?
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01-13-2021, 05:19 PM
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Yes,,,,,
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01-14-2021, 11:01 PM
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Do not plug in and turn water heater on unless you have water in tank and you ran Hot water to get air out. Also bypass closed
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