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Old 10-01-2019, 08:39 AM   #61
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With the extra cost of Diesel maintenance and the potential issues with the DEF issues, we still chose to go with Diesel. The power to go uphill and the fact of having most of the power under 2k rpm is amazing. Fuel mileage is better than my 2012 Escalade Esv that had the 6.2 motor.
Also regarding the new 1/2 ton trucks with the increased capacity, I do not see how it works. I doubt they are putting on 8 lug hubs/axles, 3/4 sized brakes, etc.
X2 on going with the Diesel...It makes me laugh all the time when someone tells me I really don't need a Diesel for my 8K TT it's like I made this big mistake and spent $$$ that I didn't need too
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:50 AM   #62
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"Need" is a fun word. Take a look at the forum we're on here. Need. Who needs an RV? Want to go camping? A $40 Walmart tent will work just fine. Nobody needs an RV. It's a waste of money.

Same with the diesel. Very few people need a diesel. Why do I prefer an RV to a tent? Yeah, many of those reasons apply pretty well to the diesel option for me. We all spend our money in different ways. Most of us are OK if someone opts for a $65,000 trailer over a smaller $30,000 trailer ... but many get offended when someone drops $8K on an diesel engine option without a bona fide industrial reason to do so.

But, as mentioned many times, 1/2 tons, particularly the modern ones, are great towing performers. 3/4 tons are also great, particularly in gasoline versions with payload intact. Choose what fits your needs, your wants, your lifestyle, and your budget. Enjoy.
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Old 10-01-2019, 12:18 PM   #63
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Maybe the big 3 should just scrap the 1/2, 3/4, line and only build 1-ton dually's since it's the only thing capable of towing anything bigger than a 6' utility trailer with a Cub Cadet mower on it.
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Old 10-01-2019, 12:53 PM   #64
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Nope cannot do that then all we would have is tire pressure and again with the lawn mower comment
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:04 PM   #65
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I have a 2014 3500 Silverado LTZ Duramax SRW. No need for worry about anything I chose to tow. Just hook up and go. That’s why I have that truck. No regrets.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:22 PM   #66
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There has been considerable discussion about a "Legal Thing" versus "an Engineering Thing." Can anyone quote statutes or court cases where an overweight recreational truck.trailer or RV been held liable for being overweight? Same for engineering - can anyone definitively point to engineering documents (as opposed to marketing documents.)

What I would like to get to is what are the real world risks - from both engineering and legal standpoints - as backed up by facts.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:54 PM   #67
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Nope cannot do that then all we would have is tire pressure and again with the lawn mower comment
Frank you Dog.
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Frank you Dog.
Well .... Meet Remi & Sage
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Can anyone quote statutes or court cases where an overweight recreational truck.trailer or RV been held liable for being overweight?
I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:23 AM   #71
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Well .... Meet Remi & Sage
Nice pair of Pooches.
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Not going to get an answer Curt!

You have to be trained to read and understand SAE specs. Most of you are not.

What is never shown is the test trailer. And, oh, that does not look like yours!

All mixed in is dot, dmv, 1920 laws and rules. Plus engineering and marketing practice and definitions and standard items and wind and sail area. Dimensions and options and engineering.

And attorneys. Internet malarkey. Police enforcement practice.

As a generally trained engineer with a structural background, I say go big.

After that you are on your own.

I know too much. Donít like individual testimonials. Trained problem solvers listen to them with respect, ask twenty five questions and weigh the value of their statement with a pound of salt. Mostly ignore. Statistical relevance.

The answer for you is ten pages of text and a two page sheet to rate tv and tt.

Not worth my time. Go big!
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Valuable information there.

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Not going to get an answer Curt!

You have to be trained to read and understand SAE specs. Most of you are not.

What is never shown is the test trailer. And, oh, that does not look like yours!

All mixed in is dot, dmv, 1920 laws and rules. Plus engineering and marketing practice and definitions and standard items and wind and sail area. Dimensions and options and engineering.

And attorneys. Internet malarkey. Police enforcement practice.

As a generally trained engineer with a structural background, I say go big.

After that you are on your own.

I know too much. Donít like individual testimonials. Trained problem solvers listen to them with respect, ask twenty five questions and weigh the value of their statement with a pound of salt. Mostly ignore. Statistical relevance.

The answer for you is ten pages of text and a two page sheet to rate tv and tt.

Not worth my time. Go big!
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:42 AM   #74
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