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Old 06-17-2019, 06:44 PM   #21
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My 2500, full of fuel, two people, and about 300 lb of gear in the back weighs in at ballpark 7200 lb. Gross is 9500 lb. So that gives me another 2300 lb to play with.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:01 PM   #22
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Don't be misled by believing you will get better mileage with the 6.2, I have a Yukon with 6.2 and pulled a 12' trailer with 2 Harleys down 81 into the smokies. I got about 8 mpg, seemed like I had to stop about every 5 exits for gas. It's a great running motor, but as previously stated, more of a hot rod motor. I don't think a bigger motor in a 2500 will burn any more gas.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:15 PM   #23
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Just out of curiosity what is your payload for your vehicle? I know every truck is specific to what it comes with and such but just want to get a feel for it. My Father in law just got a new 2500 diesel and has a payload of 2268 which I was like wow I thought it would have been a little more. Thanks for the advice and information.
This is the sticker on my 08 GMC Sierra 2500 crew 4x4.Click image for larger version

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I would get the 1500 and get a different truck later if you need it when you upgrade your trailer 3-5 years down the road.
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This is the sticker on my 08 GMC Sierra 2500 crew 4x4.Attachment 207629
2018 Chevy 2500 HD extended cab 6.5' bed w/6.0 gas yields a payload of 3348
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:45 PM   #26
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I believe with the 2020 it is up again.
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This is the sticker on my 08 GMC Sierra 2500 crew 4x4.Attachment 207629
2018 Chevy 2500 HD extended cab 6.5' bed w/6.0 gas yields a payload of 3348. I'm guessing the penalty is 4x4.
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You don't need it all of the time but when you do it is a life saver.
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You don't need it all of the time but when you do it is a life saver.
SWMBO says I do not need it. Now that she is the driver, her edict is stronger.
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SWMBO says I do not need it. Now that she is the driver, her edict is stronger.
Only because she hasn't needed it YET. Got into a campground with wet grass and a small hill. Wheels spun. DW looked at me like "Uh-Oh!" I just grinned at her and put it in 4WD and went up the hill.
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Old 06-17-2019, 08:35 PM   #31
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1500 6.2 L vs 2500 gasser

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I believe with the 2020 it is up again.


I think you are correct and they are also putting in a 6.6L in 2020 as well. I think they are staying with the same 6 speed tranny though.
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Old 06-17-2019, 09:25 PM   #32
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Interesting question... Here's what I can tell you.

Up until the week before last, we had an'09 F250 with 6.8l V10 and 4.10 gears. Owned it for 7 years and we've towed all over heck and gone up and down the west coast mountains from CA to Jasper and once over to Utah & Nevada. The V10 never let me down and could always maintain 65 mph on any grade. No TT, FW or semi could pass me!

Unfortunately, the V10 bottom end exploded 5 hours from home with the TT behind. A mechanic deemed it was terminal and not worth repairing. A replacement V10 was almost impossible to find and the two we did were too expensive and that was before labor to install.

Luckily (very) we were heading to my BIL's house 5 minutes away from where we broke down. He owns an auto parts shop and hooked us up with a friend who had a nice '12 GM 2500 Sierra for sale. Has a 6.0 V8 and 4.10 gears. We needed a replacement truck to keep our camping season alive and to get the TT home. The price was too good to refuse so we snapped it up. Very few used 3/4 tons for sale in decent shape around here as many are now going to the US due to the $$ exchange and many are beat up work trucks.

The V10 is rated 362 HP & 457 ft-lbs while the V8 is rated 360 HP & 380 ft-lbs torque. The Sierra has the 6 speed.

Our TT is 7K lbs and 29'. On the way home, I had to tow up BC's infamous Coquihalla hwy - more than a 100 mile long mountain pass with grades between 6 & 8.5%. The V10 worked great on the Coq. hwy. Plenty of power/torque and no issues maintaining 65 mph (speed limit is 75 mph for cars & trucks).

However... The V8 struggled to maintain 65 on 6- 6.5% grades. As the grades got steeper i got slower and slower and at one point I was only able to make about 55 mph WOT. Quite disappointing! I even had quite a few loaded semis blow me away uphill.

Assuming both engines were putting out the advertised power & torque, the 82 less ft-lbs of the V8 makes a VERY noticeable difference. The tranny didn't seem to downshift as the truck slowed as the grades got steeper. The truck is new to me and I need to check the throttle position sensor. I'm not quite used to how the tow/haul and +/1 button on the column shift works yet and need to play with it. With the F250, I could just turn T/H on and get engine braking on downhill sections but the Sierra doesn't work the same way.

So it seems to me that torque matters. I already don't miss the F250 but sure miss it's torque! Don't know what kind of torque other 3/4 tons have these days? Sure don't want to pay 10s of thousands more $$ to get a diesel just for the torque. If we ever buy another truck to tow the same TT, I'm going to be looking very close at HP & torque numbers.

I have thought about installing a chip but google seems to say the gain isn't all that much and then you have to run high octane.

On payload, the F250 sticker said it was supposed to be 2800 lbs but after going to a scale, it was more like 2K lbs. It had a canopy which would have accounted for a bit but not sure where the rest went. It was a super cab 4x4 with 8' box. The 2500 Sierra is crew cab, 6.5' box, 4x4 and no canopy (yet). Has a sticker payload of 3K lbs but haven't gone across a scale yet.

I would much rather have a 2WD. They're 5-6" lower to the ground, less maintenance and with less weight of the drivetrain, have more payload cap. VERY hard to find a 3/4 ton with 2WD. I've never once needed the 4x4 anywhere.
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:59 AM   #33
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More questions to sort out so here it goes. Besides payload and fuel mileage what am I gaining or losing between the 1500 and the 2500. Keep in mind I’m asking about the 6.2L. I know the new 2500 is coming out with a bigger engine with more than the current one but still has less HP and torque than the 6.2L. Am I seriously over looking here. So just trying to sort things out before I go to the dealer and start looking and lose focus of what I really need over want to a point. Please know that I have only owned a 97 1500 and that was a hand me down and only pulled a pop up with it and owned it for 4 years back in 07-10. So my knowledge of trucks is little to none. I own a mini “man van” and a traverse. So thanks for any help you can provide. This would probably be a daily driver and to and from work about 20-30 miles one way. Oh and I don’t mind diesel people jumping in but know I’m trying to cover all areas and I’m really just interested in gassers for now. Thanksgiving any insight and I’m sure I’m overlooking stuff so please let me know.

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One Huge difference, besides payload (which is also a big deal) is Brakes! The HD has a much more robust brake system.
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Old 06-19-2019, 06:24 AM   #34
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I will chime in on the "baby diesel" which is the Ram Eco Diesel. We have a 14 Ram with an 8 speed transmission and 3.55 rear axle. We went to DC and Virginia so far this year with a couple of short trips. Mileage pulling a 20 ft (25 with tongue) was 13 mpg both 8 hour trips. Went Erie PA a 6 hour trip and got 12.5 mpg. Constant speeds of 65-70 usually around 68 mph. Wife uses it as a daily driver and loves it and she gets around 22 mpg, maybe a little higher. I know your concern is a gasser right now but I love the diesel with heading out west and those mountains. Almost forgot the trailer, 4500 to 5500 pds.
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Old 06-19-2019, 06:51 AM   #35
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I assume his 2500 was a gas engine because as far as I can tell Ram, Ford and Chevy offer the same power train in 3/4 ton as they do in a 1 ton. So the improvement in performance came from getting a diesel not a 1 ton
8000 lbs all you can pull with that chevy get a diesel you will be preferably a ford 6.7 my 17000 lbs fifth wheel pulls fine behind it all the way to 110mph and everythig between and gets 18.5 mpg empty and 12-13 mpg loaded
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8000 lbs all you can pull with that chevy get a diesel you will be preferably a ford 6.7 my 17000 lbs fifth wheel pulls fine behind it all the way to 110mph and everythig between and gets 18.5 mpg empty and 12-13 mpg loaded
How did you come up with that 8000 lbs figure?

“you will be preferably a ford”. What am I missing?

“110mph”? Really?
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my 17000 lbs fifth wheel pulls fine behind it all the way to 110mph


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Well in the post that was put up about what he was pullig sound like there was a concern as to if it the 6.2 would pull a 8000lbs camper and yes realy 2012 ford will pull 17000 lbs fifth wheel camper up th 110mph but comfortable at a steady speed of 80mph
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The OP was asking about Chev/GMC 6.2L. How did we get way over here....talking about Ford and Ram?
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:45 AM   #40
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Ford1904 I know where you were going with what you were saying. I just thought the 110 MPH was funny cause I picture some of my friends in the back of my head 🤣.

As for the rest of this I’m not here either to get into a Ford vs Dodge vs Chevy I really am not partial to either of them. I have owned and drove all 3 brands and they all break down and they all cost money. I just have questions on why not a 6.2 over a 6.0. More HP and torque ? Just curious and I’m getting good answers and that’s what I’m after.

I have not really researched ford trucks yet but I will soon. I am still 6 or so months away from even really looking and test driving but I am looking for some answers to questions I have. I don’t trust sales people to give me direct answers cause they just want a sale. Just need real world advice/information good and bad so I can make a good choice in what I get.
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