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Old 10-15-2013, 01:25 PM   #1
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2012 Dodge RAM 2500 6.7 Turbo Diesel

This is my first post on the forums and I have a question that probably has already been covered. ANY help would be most welcome!
I already own a 2012 Dodge RAM 2500 Crew Cab "Heavy Duty" 4X4 Short Bed with the 6.7 Cummins Turbo Diesel. The truck has a ball in the bed (drop hitch) and has a Ranch Hand front grill-guard and rear bumper.
Will this truck handle a 365 SAQ Sandpiper 5th wheel? My family (1 child and wife) will be traveling in Colorado and Oregon. The new trailer will be our new residence once our house sells. If not, then what are my best options (besides trading up).
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:58 PM   #2
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You will be over loaded with that combination. Your truck has about a 2400 pound payload capacity and a towing capacity of just under 13000. The 365saq has a dry weight of 12800 and a dry pin weight of 2180, so your at your limits before adding anything in the trailer. The power train of the truck will pull the trailer with no problem but the suspension and tires might not. Your options are to move to a 3500, get a smaller trailer or tow over loaded. I saw 2 sandpipers this weekend 1 being towed by a older f250 and the other by a newer chevy 2500 so people do pull that trailer with 3/4 tons but that does'nt mean you should. So the decision is going to be up to you.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:54 PM   #3
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Hi,
I believe if you add air bags or helpers you would be capable. I'm sure this thread will attract a few varying answers. Tow capacity always has some debate. I pull the same camper with a 350 long bed diesel. That cummins is more than capable we all know.
I'd be happy to answer any Q's you may have on the camper itself. Good luck with it all.
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:42 PM   #4
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I agree with the first response - you'll likely be overloaded. It'll pull it and it'll stop it, but you'll be overloaded (likely).
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:43 PM   #5
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Thanks for your thoughts concerning this issue. When I asked about this at the dealership (Fun Time RV's in Cleburne, Texas), I was told that the truck could handle it, but I had that "Little voice" telling me otherwise. I need to find a quality 5th wheel that we can live and travel in and one that can be safely be towed with my truck. Purchasing a new one at this time is out of the question.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:13 PM   #6
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Look at some 5W around 32 feet but always look at the weights first. Also make sure you like the floor plan and it works for you.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:31 PM   #7
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If you're going to stay within your ratings, here's an article that I wrote that helps you figure out what you can tow:
http://learntorv.blogspot.com/p/what-can-i-tow.html
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:26 PM   #8
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The 2500 ram C.T.D. is the same truck as the 3500 C.T.D. EXCEPT for the over load spring leaf and frame brackets on the rear axle. As you can see in my sig, I have a similar setup with our Sanibel 3600. The needed changes to the truck are;
AirLift Ultimate 5000 air bags (I also installed the compressor kit )
Hellwig rear stabilizer bar for heavy towing (not the standard bar)
#74030017 AAM rear differential cover for the 11.5" axle
Trailer light circuit protector ( this is to protect the T.I.P.M. in your truck ) ( $2,000.00 repair to the truck if your trailer wiring shorts out )
Curt T-Connector ( so you can splice in the circuit protector to the T-Connector and then just plug in )http://www.curtmfg.com/masterlibrary..._App_Guide.pdf


2007 Dodge 2500 CTD 2W.D. short bed Weight
03/11/2013

Truck weighed with 250 lb driver, Hellwig rear sway kit, Air Lift kit, Super Glide #2900
hitch and bed rail kit, 34gal. of diesel in fuel tank, stock tires rated 3,195 lbs @ 80 psi. each.

Air bags at 10 psi. Truck has stock suspension.

Factory weight rating on the drivers door;
Front GAWR = 4,750 lbs @ 50 psi front tire pressure
Rear GAWR = 6,010 lbs @ 70 psi rear tire pressure
GVWR =9,000
GCWR = 20,000 lbs
Maximum combined weight rating = 2,472 lbs of cargo and passengers

Actual weight;

Front = 4,060 lbs
Rear = 3,220 lbs
Total = 7,280 lbs

The weight capacity left is

Front = 690 lbs.
Rear = 2,790 lbs

The rim rating on the rear is 3,005 lbs. ( this is calculated from the service manual statement that
the max tire pressure on the door is the max rim weight rating ) (the front tire rims and suspension will
have a greater side load on them in a turn then the rear tire rims thus reducing the front rims weight rating )
Increasing the tire pressure does NOT increase the rim or suspension weight capacity in a turn.
The rear axle rim rating on the 3500 SRW increases to 3,100 lbs @ 75 psi each. This matches the
industry standard light truck tire inflation table for the inflation pressure of a 265/70R 17E Single Tire.
The rim rating statement looks to be a legal "C.Y.A." rating so no one can claim that they were misled
to think the axle or rim rating is higher than the GAWR on the door sticker.

03/23/2013
Truck with Sanibel 3600 5th wheel coach, 2 men @ 250 lbs each and 28 gal. of fuel & 100 lbs of tools in back seat.
New Trail Air pin box installed, 1 full & one 1/4 - 30 lbs propane tanks and 300 lbs in front cargo hold of Sanibel.

Actual weight;

Front = 4,220
Rear = 6,120
Trailer x2 axles = 10,640

Actual GCWR = 20,980

At the wheel well lip;
With out Sanibel
The rear height = 38 1/2" @ 10 psi
The front height = 34 1/2"

With Sanibel
The rear height = 36" @ 40 psi.
The front height = 34"
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:38 AM   #9
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Thanks again for the help! This really clears thing up for me.
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