2015 F150 Platinum Ecoboost- great tow vehicle!

[robsshots]

Agree with jtesta1 - slow down! No need to go much over 60. What's your hurry? I'm getting a little over 10 mpg towing a Rockwood fifth wheel, dry weight 7850. That's through mountains. Flatland I get close to 11 mpg. But then I set it at 60 and forget it. Great truck, tows like a champ. Glad you got the unit you did - sounds mighty fine!

[BusyRetirees]

Rhino - I have 6 lug nuts, max tow pack and the plate on the truck says that my max payload is 2650 lbs. Towing capacity is 11,900 lbs and 5th wheel capacity 10,500 lbs.

[Ford Towing a Hemi]

Originally Posted by The_Rhino

OP, I noticed you have the Max Tow package but not the HD package (6 lug bolts vs. 8) - so max payload of around 2,000, correct? That's an awesome truck you have, but I just want you to be safe hauling nearly (5) tons behind you... That's a Very BIG TT for a F150 w/out HD package... Even (empty) at the TT dealership the back-end looks like its squatting...

At the CAT scales our 6,500 (empty) TT is 8,250 ready-to-camp with a tongue weight of 1300. Our kids are still pre-teen & none of us are overweight, but our family of (5) & (1) dog now weigh-in at 600+. In the PU bed we carry anything too dirty to place in the TT like camping rug, fishing gear, and about 100 lbs. of firewood in (2) small boxes - just enough for a weekend...

At (3) separate CAT Scale weigh-ins our payload was always over 2,000 - even when we packed light for a 3 day weekend... This year we added a fiberglass cap, a canopy to keep the bikes dry outside, and a couple other camping must-haves so our payload was at 2,300 - 2,400 all summer long...

So, just to be safe, make sure you hit the CAT scales with your family & gear loaded. I have a CDL & have driven 1/2, 3/4 & 1 tons trucks commercially - all of which were overloaded at some point. IMO the F150 w/out HD package is too soft in the rear to handle any amount of overloading. Yes, plenty of engine paired with a great tranny but IMO you need to beef-up the rear suspension if you are @ 2000 lbs. payload for any length of time...

I really appreciate your suggestions and info based on your extensive experience. Definitely want to stay safe. I researched it a little more to be sure:

The payload capacity for my truck is 2020 lbs. without HD package (There is no HD package for 4 x 4 supercrew cabs with 145 in. wheelbase, but that package takes it up to 2650 in supercrew 4 x 4 with longer wheelbase ). My trailer tongue weight is supposed to be 880 lbs, family weighs about 450, so should have room to spare for some luggage, etc. For the specific trip with the photos we had more stuff in the bed because we cleaned out the old camper ( including the hitch) after trade in and hadn't put anything in the new trailer yet. Won't put much of anything in the bed for future trips.

Thanks again to all

[nomad297]

Originally Posted by Ford Towing a Hemi

The payload capacity for my truck is 2020 lbs.

Did you get this from the yellow sticker on your driver's side door pillar, or is that a brochure number?

Bruce

[Ford Towing a Hemi]

Originally Posted by Big Rig

I don't understand why you would buy an Egoboost over a diesel. Just bought a brand new Duramax that was in the same price category as a 6 cylinder half ton. I feel I have much more choices in my future for trailers let alone safety. It may have great power but it is still only a half ton truck.


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Was tempted to get a Super Duty, but felt it would be too cumbersome for the other 99% of my driving. I chose the "Egoboost" because it will tow all the trailer I want and still be a comfortable daily driver and primary family vehicle without the compromises of a heavy duty truck.
[And it helps my ego ☺.]

[Stovebolt]

Originally Posted by The_Rhino

OP, I noticed you have the Max Tow package but not the HD package (6 lug bolts vs. 8) - so max payload of around 2,000, correct? That's an awesome truck you have, but I just want you to be safe hauling nearly (5) tons behind you... That's a Very BIG TT for a F150 w/out HD package... Even (empty) at the TT dealership the back-end looks like its squatting...

At the CAT scales our 6,500 (empty) TT is 8,250 ready-to-camp with a tongue weight of 1300. Our kids are still pre-teen & none of us are overweight, but our family of (5) & (1) dog now weigh-in at 600+. In the PU bed we carry anything too dirty to place in the TT like camping rug, fishing gear, and about 100 lbs. of firewood in (2) small boxes - just enough for a weekend...

At (3) separate CAT Scale weigh-ins our payload was always over 2,000 - even when we packed light for a 3 day weekend... This year we added a fiberglass cap, a canopy to keep the bikes dry outside, and a couple other camping must-haves so our payload was at 2,300 - 2,400 all summer long...

So, just to be safe, make sure you hit the CAT scales with your family & gear loaded. I have a CDL & have driven 1/2, 3/4 & 1 tons trucks commercially - all of which were overloaded at some point. IMO the F150 w/out HD package is too soft in the rear to handle any amount of overloading. Yes, plenty of engine paired with a great tranny but IMO you need to beef-up the rear suspension if you are @ 2000 lbs. payload for any length of time...

Not to be nit picking your post but just to correct one thing about the Max load package, or as you stated the HD package. It comes with 7 lugs not 8 unless the 2015 changed to 8. The Max load adds about 850 lbs to the payload.

[davel1971]

Originally Posted by Big Rig

I don't understand why you would buy an Egoboost over a diesel. Just bought a brand new Duramax that was in the same price category as a 6 cylinder half ton. I feel I have much more choices in my future for trailers let alone safety. It may have great power but it is still only a half ton truck.


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I'm glad someone else sees it this way also. I paid 47k for a new 2014 1 ton Chevy Duramax. I've seen so many 1/2 tons that were more than 10k MORE than that. Nothing against the Ecoboost, I have driven them and they are impressive, but I got so much more towing capacity, get better mileage, and saved 10k

[Stovebolt]

Originally Posted by davel1971

I'm glad someone else sees it this way also. I paid 47k for a new 2014 1 ton Chevy Duramax. I've seen so many 1/2 tons that were more than 10k MORE than that. Nothing against the Ecoboost, I have driven them and they are impressive, but I got so much more towing capacity, get better mileage, and saved 10k

Price any loaded 1/2 ton and you will see 60 thousand easy. These trucks are made to cover all aspects and most are used for daily transportation as cars more than they are for towing big objects. If you tow all the time naturally you would get a 3/4 to 1 ton but you pay for unloaded ride as a family vehicle. You get what you pay for. I've owned many 1 ton vehicles because of the type of work I did before I was retired and I got real sick of bouncing around in an unloaded truck most of the time even though today's heavy duty trucks are much better than they were 10 years ago. Besides you pay anywhere from 7 to 10 grand more for a diesel. I doubt you saved 10 grand over an ecoboost unless you got a stripped down version of the GM brand. Most of the new Chevy and GMC Duramax trucks I have seen have been way past 50 grand.

[nomad297]

Originally Posted by Stovebolt

Most of the new Chevy and GMC Duramax trucks I have seen have been way past 50 grand.

Most? I believe it is all.

Bruce

[esloser]

I priced them out before deciding to go with a 1500. With a Duramax, you'll be lucky to break $60 let alone $50k. Especially, when going with a 4x4 and crew cab that can haul the family too. You might be able to get down into the $40's with the base model with no creature comforts. Unless, of course, you're looking at used.

That's why I went with the 1500. I couldn't justify an $900+ monthly payment for a Duramax.

Originally Posted by nomad297

Most? I believe it is all.

Bruce

[Kenny kustom]

When I bought my 14 2500 CUMMINS.
Sticker was 73k. They were offering free diesel and rebates out the ying yang.
Paid just over 50. ( cdn)
Cheaper than most half tons.


2008 F350 CCSB V10
2016 Sabre 36QBOK

[CWSWine]

Paid 54 for my 2015 F350 diesel and that was 2,000 cheaper than F250 with the same options.

My F350 rides a lot better than then a F150 2014 HD Payload and HD Tow. My neighbor bought one and even he agrees the ride is lot worse in his F150 and the the length of my Super Cab and his F150 is less than one inch. F150 rides better than F350 without the HD Payload option and just the HD Tow.

[Roger2650]

All these trucks are over priced. Do you know what it costs to produce a truck off the production line? It's $11, 800.00 for the average truck with a pretty good set of options. They pump out over 60 of these an hour.

[Mahlstedtd]

Have a 2013 Duramax. Pulling CC 5er empty is 12,900 lbs. Still gets 11 mpg. 21-22 empty. Why buy a half ton?

[etothepii]

My ecoboost was $35000 new. Less with rebates. I bought it used (5000 miles on it) for $23000. Could I have found a diesel for that?

My oil change costs me $25, and gas is $2 per gallon right now. Same for diesel?

I get 20 mpg daily driving. How much more would a diesel get me, and would it offset the fuel cost?


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[Kenny kustom]

Originally Posted by etothepii

My ecoboost was $35000 new. Less with rebates. I bought it used (5000 miles on it) for $23000. Could I have found a diesel for that?

My oil change costs me $25, and gas is $2 per gallon right now. Same for diesel?

I get 20 mpg daily driving. How much more would a diesel get me, and would it offset the fuel cost?


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It's not about mpg.
It's about towing capacity.


2008 F350 CCSB V10
2016 Sabre 36QBOK

[etothepii]

I'm just not sure I agree with the "price category" comment...

[oldgold]

Originally Posted by etothepii

My ecoboost was $35000 new. Less with rebates. I bought it used (5000 miles on it) for $23000. Could I have found a diesel for that?

My oil change costs me $25, and gas is $2 per gallon right now. Same for diesel?

I get 20 mpg daily driving. How much more would a diesel get me, and would it offset the fuel cost?


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I've had 2 recent F250's and also the Ecoboost F150, I average 70,000 miles a year so I flip trucks every other year.

Diesels are more expensive to maintain, I only got 9mpg towing a utility trailer with our F150 Ecoboost. I get 14 mpg pulling a 13k lb TH with the F250. Daily driving the Ecoboost got 21 with street tires, once I switched to all terrains it went to 19.5mpg. F250 as a daily driver averages 19mpg with all terrains.

Yes, the diesels are more expensive off the lot. Yes diesel is slightly more on fuel cost, but lately it has been within $0.10 of 87 octane down here. Another difference are oil changes for sure... BUT...

Borrow someone's F250 and hook up a trailer to it. You will realize it's a whole different truck. In the past 10 or 15 years, I've had 5 F150s and 2 F250s.. The F250's are just in a different league. So long as I can afford it, I'm not going back... And I even have to park in a deck in the middle of Atlanta for work.

[dustman_stx]

Originally Posted by Big Rig

I don't understand why you would buy an Egoboost over a diesel. Just bought a brand new Duramax that was in the same price category as a 6 cylinder half ton. I feel I have much more choices in my future for trailers let alone safety. It may have great power but it is still only a half ton truck.


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This is such an illogical way of looking at things I can't even figure out how to begin rebutting it!!! Basically what I'm hearing is that, since it's possible to load up a 1/2 ton to a price that exceeds a stripped diesel, the diesel truck is actually cheaper.........Hmmmmm. Never mind that the diesel option runs $8K plus.

[oldgold]

Originally Posted by dustman_stx

This is such an illogical way of looking at things I can't even figure out how to begin rebutting it!!! Basically what I'm hearing is that, since it's possible to load up a 1/2 ton to a price that exceeds a stripped diesel, the diesel truck is actually cheaper.........Hmmmmm. Never mind that the diesel option runs $8K plus.

A stripped diesel is way cheaper than a Platinum F150. I'd bet you could cost compare a Platinum F150 to almost a Lariat F250. I'd imagine the two of those would be within 5k of each other.