2016 6.7L Ford powerstroke

KingFisher · 06-13-2016, 03:03 PM

Any of you all have one?

I've decided I need to upgrade my towing capabilities and a dealer not too far away has a 2016 F350 dually with 13,500 miles on it. Crew cab and long bed, 4x4.

Being a Chevy man for the last 18 years I don't know what Ford has going on.

Thanks for any info.

shorthorn · 06-13-2016, 03:19 PM

As I understand the F word, they improved the turbo and exhaust braking greatly on the 16s. They still use the CP4 injection pumps though.... might want to do some research on the Ford forums...

Spikedog · 06-13-2016, 03:29 PM

I have an '06 E-450 with the 6.0L, and I've heard the 6.7L is a vast improvement. The 6.0L is not a good engine without some significant modifications (EGR delete for one). Access to the engine in a van is very bad too.

As Shorthorn mentioned, might want to look around on FTE forums to see what you're getting into.

6.7L Power Stroke Diesel - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

B and B · 06-13-2016, 09:45 PM

I have the same drive train and engine in my 2015. Just rolled over 1 year ownership and 25,000 kms. Tows like a champ, the dry mileage is better and cost to operate is LESS than my F 150 Ecoboost.

Unforgiven · 06-14-2016, 01:43 PM

I have a 2015 f350 4x4 fully loaded...I was a chevy fan most of my life..I pull a 36' Crusader no problems..exhaust brake works great..we love this truck

RVBikers · 06-14-2016, 01:48 PM

DO IT! haha...seriously though, I found a '15 Dually CC with 14k on the clock a couple months ago. Pulled the trigger and I am so glad I did. I had an Excursion (gas V10) which I loved, but this thing pulls like crazy. Check out Ford Truck Enthusiast forum, I am over there too. Lots of good info. I love the truck, very glad I waited to get a 6.7L. Ford also improved the turbo for the MY 2015 and up.

KingFisher · 06-14-2016, 04:20 PM

I went ahead and filled out their online form for my trade value just to get a ballpark estimate, but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to swing this deal.

When I ran my truck up on kelly blue book, well it's sure depreciated a lot for only having 9,000 miles. May have to keep it another year.

I'll just have to baby that windjammer down to Florida. It pulls fine the short time I've pulled it, and my sunset trail pulls great behind the half ton.
Windjammer weighs 1400 pounds more than the sunset trail. All other things should be equal since we always take the same stuff with us.

Just looking for an extra margin of safety.

RVBikers · 06-14-2016, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KingFisher

I went ahead and filled out their online form for my trade value just to get a ballpark estimate, but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to swing this deal.

When I ran my truck up on kelly blue book, well it's sure depreciated a lot for only having 9,000 miles. May have to keep it another year.

I'll just have to baby that windjammer down to Florida. It pulls fine the short time I've pulled it, and my sunset trail pulls great behind the half ton.
Windjammer weighs 1400 pounds more than the sunset trail. All other things should be equal since we always take the same stuff with us.

Just looking for an extra margin of safety.

you never know, you might catch them at a good time and they might be wanting to deal. see what happens.
and yeah, I ditto what Unforgiven said about the exhaust brake. its great! hit the button, tap the brake at the top of the hill, and she will hold the speed all the way down.

mike.t · 06-14-2016, 07:21 PM

I have heard the 6.7 is a beast. Not sure about asking a Ford forum. Most folks wont bad mouth their truck until they get another brand. I would stay here and listen.

davel1971 · 06-14-2016, 07:28 PM

I have a 2016 F350 Dually. The 6.7 is unbelievable. My previous truck was a 2014 Chevy Duramax. The Duramax was for sure no slouch, but the Ford has even more power. Go to the dealer and work them. The best deals for sure won't be online. They want to sell trucks, but you need to be face to face.

strat56 · 06-14-2016, 07:32 PM

I recently traded my GMC 2500HD Denali 6.0 gas engine for a 2015 Ford F350 CC short bed 4X4 SRW with the 6.7. What a difference, much more stable towing and a lot more power. I've been a GM guy since 1973 and this is the best truck I've ever had.

Hutch333id · 06-14-2016, 07:54 PM

I bought my 2016 F350 Dually with the 8' bed last fall. Tows our Cedar Creek with no problem whatsoever and is very, very quiet to drive. Not at all like I expected a diesel to be. It is also pretty frugal when it comes to mpg. Not towing I get about 12l per 100 kms which is almost 20 mpg. Towing it drops to 20l/100km or just under 12 mpg. Last month going through the Rockies I tried out the exhaust brake and it works perfectly. Insurance was pretty inexpensive for me too which surprised me as it comes in less than my 2007 Expedition EL. The DW uses it more than me (at the moment) but she is quite happy to take it in to town and park it in the Wal-Mart or Safeway lot. With the brand new 2017's coming out very soon I'm sure you'll get some great deals coming through on the 16's.

CaptnJohn · 06-14-2016, 10:25 PM

Have my 2nd 6.7 and about to get the 3rd soon. Once you go diesel (any of them) you will never go back to a gasser. I'm getting 17.5 - 19 in a suburban area without the 5er and 11.3 - 12.1 at 65 with 11,500 attached.

chiggins · 06-15-2016, 12:48 AM

I have a 2013 F350 Lariat 6.7... I LOVE THE TRUCK. Keep in mind I am a Ford man but have owned pretty much every truck under the sun. The 6.7 power train with all other the components (Transmission, rear end, and etc) is best one of the market right now. Cummins is having head problems similar to Ford 6.0 and the transmission SUCKS (I know a guy that has had to buy 3 Dodges in 3 years due to transmission issues, he just never learns ha). The Durmax is under powered and hasn't gotten DEF system down well (The DEF tank also hangs out the bottom of the truck). Anyways when I bought my truck, I looked at both the Durmax and 6.7 Powerstroke at the Chevy and Ford lots right next to each other. I was way more impressed with the Fords. But the main reason I went with the Ford is my buddy is one of the main diesel mechanics at the large GMC lot and he told me to go with the Ford for many different reasons. Anyways, I think both Chevy and Ford make a great diesel and you would be happy with either but I lean heavily to the Ford.

PS The air conditioned seats option (I know it sounds stupid) is heaven!

shorthorn · 06-15-2016, 05:06 AM

chiggans,

please provide some evidence to back up your claim that the Cummins motors have head problems like the 6.0.... of all the major Cummins and diesel forums I frequent, that is news to me. as far as Transmissions go... at stock power the Aisin and 68RFE are proving to be reliable. please provide details on your friends usage to substantiate your claim he had to put in 3 Transmissions. I have a friend who put 6 transmissions in a Ford. It was a 1990 dually with the 460 gas. 3 were aweful rebuilds, 1 was a poor installation and 1 was because he was towing 15k+ in OD and overheated it. Another friend of mine has put 2 Trans in his 2006 Dodge... but he is also pushing 800-900 HP and doing sled pulls every weekend (on stock head and head bolts mind you).

Also, if you dig into the information, the Duramax DEF issues you reference were largely contained to the 2011 and possibly early 2012 models.

please provide useful information and not hear-say and open ended opinion.

chiggins · 06-15-2016, 05:49 AM

Not hear say... my friend, Rick, had THREE major transmission issues... one truck was a 2013, 2014, and 2015... all fixed under warranty due to the trucks being under a year old... and he uses the truck to tow his 6k mini ex to job sites maybe once every month than its regular driving... He keeps me informed because we have a ongoing battle about Ford vs dodge... traded the 2013 and 2014 due to thinking he was really unlucky with lemons. But actually I change my comment about the 2015 being fixed in warranty... it was under warranty but he is so tired of stock trans going that he spent a big chunk of change on getting it replaced with a "built" trans as he called.

Also on the head issues on the Cummins... u haven't heard about it... u need to do some more reading or talk to some mechanics at a real diesel shop. I admit I didn't mean to act like the issue was as wide spread as the 6.0 but it's way too common. Anyways u started talking about older model trucks... I was talking about the new ones...

As the comment on DEF for the durmax came from a diesel mechanic (not some lacky that changes oil) who works at GMC. I mean I don't know what kind of "proof" you want.. is your word better than mine on here? I guess I could ask Rick to dig up his paperwork for all the transmissions but I ain't going to waste mine or his time ha. Anyways it's my opinion, I took 6 months to decide on my truck with endless amounts of research and talking to people in person that know a lot more than myself. My whole point was telling the OP that the 6.7 power stroke is the way to go, not start a argument with someone that obviously stuck on another brand blindly.

chiggins · 06-15-2016, 05:58 AM

By the way.. your friend went through 6 E40D transmissions? That must be a combo of horrible choice of mechanic, poor maintenance, and running the piss out of it. The E40d is not the best transmission in the world but I have a 1995 f450 7.3 diesel with over 300k on it and still on orginial transmission. I have installed a heavy duty external trans cooler and gauge for trans temp... stupid they didn't put the guage on old trucks. But I did that because its a dump truck and I regular haul 8k to 10k in the bed.

Also it's common knowledge towing heavy in any brand of truck of older truck in OD is asking for the transmission to over heat... then front seal softens and drops all the trans fluid out then bye bye transmission. Not to start an argument or anything just a comments.

Kenny kustom · 06-15-2016, 07:03 AM

Rick should have been smart enough to get the Aisin trans.

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Davidg · 06-15-2016, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by davel1971

I have a 2016 F350 Dually. The 6.7 is unbelievable. My previous truck was a 2014 Chevy Duramax. The Duramax was for sure no slouch, but the Ford has even more power. Go to the dealer and work them. The best deals for sure won't be online. They want to sell trucks, but you need to be face to face.

True this, and well said. The first thing they want to know is whether you are buying or just tire kicking. I did a lot of internet shopping and narrowed down to two dealers. When I went to first dealer, met with salesguy, and as part of our conversation, I said, "I'm buying today...from you or dealer x, but I plan to drive a new truck home today if we can strike the right deal." I had to tell my wife, "come'on honey, lets go." three times before they met my offer. We were within $500 at one time, and I headed for the door. They asked me if I was going to leave that truck over $500, and I said, "yep, there are great trucks everywhere...I'm not in love with that truck." At that point, they blinked and met my offer plus....PLUS, they threw in lifetime oil changes! Okay, get the papers ready!....lol. Dang oil changes are $100+, and I'll need several of those.

dwayneb236 · 06-15-2016, 08:25 AM

Bought my 2016 F350 6.7 in January and picked up my new trailer in February. I know absolutely zero about mechanical stuff so I picked my truck due to brand loyalty. Of course I did read stuff on diesels and what they can do. I have to say the 6.7 is a monster. It flies down the road. I was extremely pleased with the turbo as I have never driven a vehicle with one before. They add some pop to the acceleration. And over 400 HP and 900 lbs of torque is very nice. MPG aren't too bad either.
I use it as a daily driver when the weather is too bad for my motorcycle and have had no problems getting around and parking. I always park away from others anyway. Just not a crowd kind of guy.

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