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Old 07-05-2016, 07:44 PM   #1
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2016 F-150 payload question

I have a 2016 F150 4x4 screw cab with the 6 1/2 ' box, 156.8 wheel base, 3.5 Ecoboost with max tow. On the drivers door jamb there is a sticker that says passengers and all contents should not exceed 1750 lbs. The ford web site show the payload is 2060 lbs I called the dealer since I need about 2000 lbs and they also said it was 2020 lbs. So why the difference and which is correct if any. The dealer offered no explanation. Is this thing going to pull what I need?
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The best way to find out what your actual payload can be is to run the truck across a scale with a full tank of fuel, you and the passengers that will be with you in the truck.

I believe that the stickers on the door only figure in a 150lb driver and now much fuel. The reason the website is different is either they are not figuring in the driver or fuel, or that maybe your truck is loaded with more options than most trucks which will bring down the payload capacity. Also you bought the biggest and pretty much heaviest F150 you could have gotten, a crew cab with 6.5' box.

My truck example has a scaled payload capacity of 1230 lbs, that is with a full tank of fuel me, my DW, DD and dog.

You are not going to get 2000 lbs of payload capacity, looks like you should have gotten the max payload package or bought a larger truck.
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your sticker is accurate for your vehicle at equipped. The website shows specs for lesser optioned vehicles to make the numbers more impressive
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2016 F-150 payload question

Payload does not include a 150 lb driver. I see this all the time on these forums but it is not true. Tow rating includes a 150 lb driver.

The actual payload for you is 1750. Actual payloads are always lower than the brochure payloads as those are quoted for stripper models with no options. Sorry but that is the way it is with Fords. 200 lbs less than brochure is about average and you are in that ballpark.

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The 1750 is your truck when it was weighed when it left the factory and the website is a stripped truck with no options. Here is a place you an figure you payloads from the yellow sticker of 1750.

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I have a 2016 F150 4x4 screw cab with the 6 1/2 ' box, 156.8 wheel base, 3.5 Ecoboost with max tow. On the drivers door jamb there is a sticker that says passengers and all contents should not exceed 1750 lbs. The ford web site show the payload is 2060 lbs I called the dealer since I need about 2000 lbs and they also said it was 2020 lbs. So why the difference and which is correct if any. The dealer offered no explanation. Is this thing going to pull what I need?
Max Tow should give you more but a lot depends on Trim level. For example a King Ranch can eat 200 lbs of CCC easy
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I'd like the F350 max payload of 3800. My 2016 Lariat stickers at 3434. Nearly 500# in options. Some of those are required and sadly some will never be used. Some packages just add 'stuff & fluff' to needed items to jack up $$$$
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I have a 2016 F150 4x4 screw cab with the 6 1/2 ' box, 156.8 wheel base, 3.5 Ecoboost with max tow. On the drivers door jamb there is a sticker that says passengers and all contents should not exceed 1750 lbs. The ford web site show the payload is 2060 lbs I called the dealer since I need about 2000 lbs and they also said it was 2020 lbs. So why the difference and which is correct if any. The dealer offered no explanation. Is this thing going to pull what I need?
The sticker is accurate for YOUR F150.
So there's no way for your truck to have the 2000lbs that you need.
You need a different trailer or truck.
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The max tow package does not increase payload on a 2015 or 2016 F150 to get The maximum payload and towing capacity in a 2016 One orders a heavy duty payload package with the 3.5 eco-boost engine. The highest trim that you can get is lariat and only with basic options. You cannot get chrome package. Moon roof, Sony stereo, or the lane assist and adaptive cruise control. The heavy duty payload package trucks were not built in 2015 and the 2016 production was delayed in till mid or late June and the earliest are just now hitting dealers lots. They are hard-to-find,. These trucks make a lot more sense than a F250 or F350 for occasional towing. My payload on my 2014 heavy duty payload package F150 SuperCrew truck is 2250 (actual door sticker) pounds, but I get about 19 mpg for daily driving. They have a heavier, thicker frame, stronger axles E load rated commercial tires larger transmission cooler, stronger wheels. If instead I had bought a F250 6.2L gas, I would probably only be getting around 13 miles per gallon for daily driving. It is usually better to trade trucks than to try to alleviate the symptoms of an overloaded truck with airbags, etc. The fact that it is a super crew with the long bed is immaterial. The heavy duty payload package is only available in the super crew 6 1/2 foot bed. Payload figures do not include the weight of a driver but it does include a full fuel tank.
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The max tow package does not increase payload on a 2015 or 2016 F150 to get The maximum payload and towing capacity in a 2016 One orders a heavy duty payload package with the 3.5 eco-boost engine. The highest trim that you can get is lariat and only with basic options. You cannot get chrome package. Moon roof, Sony stereo, or the lane assist and adaptive cruise control. The heavy duty payload package trucks were not built in 2015 and the 2016 production was delayed in till mid or late June and the earliest are just now hitting dealers lots. They are hard-to-find,. These trucks make a lot more sense than a F250 or F350 for occasional towing. My payload on my 2014 heavy duty payload package F150 SuperCrew truck is 2250 (actual door sticker) pounds, but I get about 19 mpg for daily driving. They have a heavier, thicker frame, stronger axles E load rated commercial tires larger transmission cooler, stronger wheels. If instead I had bought a F250 6.2L gas, I would probably only be getting around 13 miles per gallon for daily driving. It is usually better to trade trucks than to try to alleviate the symptoms of an overloaded truck with airbags, etc. The fact that it is a super crew with the long bed is immaterial. The heavy duty payload package is only available in the super crew 6 1/2 foot bed. Payload figures do not include the weight of a driver but it does include a full fuel tank.

My neighbor had 2014 Max Tow and Heavy Payload I think he had around 2400 on his yellow sticker. I rode in his F150 HD Payload and comment that my F350 had a smoother ride. Which he didn't believe till we got back and I took him for a ride down the same road and he was shocked. Even his wife agreed that the F350 rode better so he traded it in on standard F150 with just Max Tow since all he hauled was a utility trailer weight less than 1500lbs. His 2016 F150 does ride better than my F350 but it is not HD Payload just HD Tow but only has around 1400lbs payload but it's loaded with options.

Putting E rated and heavy suspension on 1/2 ton that will haul the same payload as a 3/4 ton diesel but only weight around 5000 lbs just doesn't make for a smooth riding truck.
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The max tow package does not increase payload on a 2015 or 2016 F150 to get The maximum payload and towing capacity in a 2016 One orders a heavy duty payload package with the 3.5 eco-boost engine. The highest trim that you can get is lariat and only with basic options. You cannot get chrome package. Moon roof, Sony stereo, or the lane assist and adaptive cruise control. The heavy duty payload package trucks were not built in 2015 and the 2016 production was delayed in till mid or late June and the earliest are just now hitting dealers lots. They are hard-to-find,. These trucks make a lot more sense than a F250 or F350 for occasional towing. My payload on my 2014 heavy duty payload package F150 SuperCrew truck is 2250 (actual door sticker) pounds, but I get about 19 mpg for daily driving. They have a heavier, thicker frame, stronger axles E load rated commercial tires larger transmission cooler, stronger wheels. If instead I had bought a F250 6.2L gas, I would probably only be getting around 13 miles per gallon for daily driving. It is usually better to trade trucks than to try to alleviate the symptoms of an overloaded truck with airbags, etc. The fact that it is a super crew with the long bed is immaterial. The heavy duty payload package is only available in the super crew 6 1/2 foot bed. Payload figures do not include the weight of a driver but it does include a full fuel tank.
That F150 has the payload of an F250 Diesel, but not the HP or torque. The F250 gasser would have at least 500# more payload. A person would need a special reason for that truck as a 250 would be better in nearly every application.
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Max tow this, heavy payload that... HA!

My 2015 Ram 3500 cummins has averaged 18 mpg over the last 15,000 km.
Price wasn't that much more than a loaded F150.
3747 payload.
The cummins will also outlast that Eco thingy.


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Old 07-06-2016, 08:52 PM   #13
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Check the window build sheet, usually under optional it lists the GVWR package. The GVWR #7550(?) minus the Scale weight/full tank of fuel is the Payload, most of the time pretty close to the payload sticker. You can get HT (tow) without HP (payload) since 30 TT tongue usually around #700. F150 SC Payload usually around #1700 - 1800. The HT/HP just gets into 1/2 ton into the ultra light 5th wheel because of the pin weight, #1400 - 1750, watch out, the F250 SC diesel without HP is about #2250, gas is #3000. My 2011 F150 SC EB long bed with #8200 package HP is #2393, HT #11200, #600 for occupants and stuff, just bought second 5er.
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Pay load of 2393 and 600 lbs of stuff in the truck would limit your size of your 5er after its load ready to camp to:

You're adding approximately 600 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,793 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 7,172 - 8,965 lbs.

That is according to towing planner. Towing Calculator based on Truck's Payload/CCC - Towing Planner
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Many 5er hitches weigh 200# or more for a slider in a short bed. That can bite when occupants and stuff is added
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Thank you, used the Calculator, end up with #38 of payload. As I mentioned Ultra lite 5th wheel require a maxed HD payload and HT packages on 1/2 ton pickups and your still on the hairy edge. With your TV, you can pull just about anything you can afford.
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That F150 has the payload of an F250 Diesel, but not the HP or torque. The F250 gasser would have at least 500# more payload. A person would need a special reason for that truck as a 250 would be better in nearly every application.
Wrong...check the Ford Specs. For 2016 the 6.2 Gas V-8 has 385 HP an 405 pounds of torque. For 2016 the 3.5 EcoBoost has 365 HP and 405 pounds of torque. A loaded-up King Ranch F250 will likely have lower payload than an Heavy Duty Payload F150.

A special reason? Yes. If you drive 25,000 miles per year and 3,000 of those are towing, the F150 will get about 18 mpg as a daily driver. The F250 gas will get about 13 mpg. Let's assume that the truck is bought new and kept until 250,000 miles on the truck. While towing, the mileage will be about the same between the two trucks. But, as a daily driver, the F150 will use during the lifetime of the truck (220,000/18) 12,222 gallons of non-towing use gasoline. The F250 will use (220,000/13) 16,923 gallons of non-towing gas. At $2.50 per gallon, that is a fuel savings of $11,752! And, if gas goes back up to $4.00/gallon, that is a fuel savings of $18,804.00! That is more than special reason enough for me!
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Max tow this, heavy payload that... HA!

My 2015 Ram 3500 cummins has averaged 18 mpg over the last 15,000 km.
Price wasn't that much more than a loaded F150.
3747 payload.
The cummins will also outlast that Eco thingy.


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The Cummins is a good engine, but heavy. You can get the Cummins now in a Nissan Titan HD, but the payload is lower than an F150 due to the weight of the engine. Service costs are higher and often fuel prices higher on the diesels. And, the Ram Cummins engine will also far outlive the rusting Ram truck bodies.
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The Cummins is a good engine, but heavy. You can get the Cummins now in a Nissan Titan HD, but the payload is lower than an F150 due to the weight of the engine. Service costs are higher and often fuel prices higher on the diesels. And, the Ram Cummins engine will also far outlive the rusting Ram truck bodies.

Can't really compare the ram 3500 to a Titan.
Not the same engine, not the same class.
Service costs? My first oil change was at 15,000 km.
Fuel? Diesel here is 30 cents a litre cheaper.




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I have a 2016 F150 4x4 screw cab with the 6 1/2 ' box, 156.8 wheel base, 3.5 Ecoboost with max tow. On the drivers door jamb there is a sticker that says passengers and all contents should not exceed 1750 lbs. The ford web site show the payload is 2060 lbs I called the dealer since I need about 2000 lbs and they also said it was 2020 lbs. So why the difference and which is correct if any. The dealer offered no explanation. Is this thing going to pull what I need?


Your available payload is 1,750 lbs. Payload is driver, all passengers, pets, gear and tongue weight of trailer. Any and all weight placed on the truck is payload.

Payload should be calculated by subtracting the weight of the truck (as it rolled of the assembly line) from GVWR.


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