2016 F 250 Crew Cab real world weights

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Here are the real life weights of my 2016 F250 Crew Cab diesel short bed (no trailer) measured just today. I topped off the fuel, stood on the scales with the truck, and the only additional weights not from the factory is a spray in bed liner, a Line-x hard folding tonneau cover, and maybe another 10 pounds under the rear seats. I weigh 215 so that is 65 pounds more than the 150 pounds in the Ford specs. First the specs from the door stickers:


GVWR = 10,000 LB Front GAWR = 5940 LB Rear GAWR = 6100 LB
Recommended Payload = 2059 LB @ 65 PSI cold tire pressure.


Now the CAT weight: Steer Axle = 4980 LB Drive Axle = 3280 LB
Gross Weight = 8260 LB. This is real world weight without my generator, wife, pets, WDH, and tools.


As you can see just forget what a sales rep or factory tells you about towing specs on your vehicle. I am still within the parameters of my loaded toy hauler (1000 lbs. TW) but I have a truck that can haul a lot more than rated and cannot legally use it. If I upgrade in the future I will be out of spec but will have a lot of company on the road.


I know this has been beat to death but I thought someone maybe be interested in real world numbers.

[CWSWine]

Factory payload is figured from curb weight which is all fluids full but no driver or passengers and the yellow sticker is the weight for your truck..

Tow capacity is based on zero options truck with 150 lbs driver.

Take the weight of your truck ready to camp and subtract it from the Gross Combine Weight Rating and you will have the Towing Capacity for your truck.

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My truck ready to go camping with trailer weighs 9460 lbs. My GCWR is 23,500 and my last weigh with camper was 18,780 lbs. I have plenty of room to tow more. As you can see I am sorta anal about the weights. Thanks for the input.

[CWSWine]

Originally Posted by Zoom

My truck ready to go camping with trailer weighs 9460 lbs. My GCWR is 23,500 and my last weigh with camper was 18,780 lbs. I have plenty of room to tow more. As you can see I am sorta anal about the weights. Thanks for the input.

Like the example the OP gave he is going to run out payload long before he runs out towing capacity. That is the point he is trying to make with the post.

[dalford]

Originally Posted by CWSWine

Like the example the OP gave he is going to run out payload long before he runs out towing capacity. That is the point he is trying to make with the post.

Zoom is the OP. His second post kinda confuses his first post, kinda ignores payload which is the one spec that always gets violated first, typically....

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Originally Posted by dalford

Zoom is the OP. His second post kinda confuses his first post, kinda ignores payload which is the one spec that always gets violated first, typically....

I should have pointed out that I only have 1740 lbs of legal payload but that is OK for my XLR. But you are right about the payload parameter being the first to be exceeded. If I wanted to tow a 5er I may not be able to find one that I can legally tow.

[FrankG]

Originally Posted by Zoom

I should have pointed out that I only have 1740 lbs of legal payload but that is OK for my XLR. But you are right about the payload parameter being the first to be exceeded. If I wanted to tow a 5er I may not be able to find one that I can legally tow.

Thanks for the weight info. I have only been here a short time but have learned that if you are thinking of upgrading to a 5er you need a 350.

[325BH]

Originally Posted by Zoom

Here are the real life weights of my 2016 F250 Crew Cab diesel short bed (no trailer) measured just today. I topped off the fuel, stood on the scales with the truck, and the only additional weights not from the factory is a spray in bed liner, a Line-x hard folding tonneau cover, and maybe another 10 pounds under the rear seats. I weigh 215 so that is 65 pounds more than the 150 pounds in the Ford specs. First the specs from the door stickers:


GVWR = 10,000 LB Front GAWR = 5940 LB Rear GAWR = 6100 LB
Recommended Payload = 2059 LB @ 65 PSI cold tire pressure.


Now the CAT weight: Steer Axle = 4980 LB Drive Axle = 3280 LB
Gross Weight = 8260 LB. This is real world weight without my generator, wife, pets, WDH, and tools.


As you can see just forget what a sales rep or factory tells you about towing specs on your vehicle. I am still within the parameters of my loaded toy hauler (1000 lbs. TW) but I have a truck that can haul a lot more than rated and cannot legally use it. If I upgrade in the future I will be out of spec but will have a lot of company on the road.


I know this has been beat to death but I thought someone maybe be interested in real world numbers.

As you have found, the 3/4 tons and their "paper" GVWR of 10,000 lbs really limits payload.

However, once you understand your F250 is identical to an F350 (with the possible exception of 4" blocks under the spring pack), you will realize you have much more real-world payload capacity.

It is simply a matter of: do you care about the GVWR or not.


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[KFX450RXC]

Zoom. If you're trying to be 100% exact on your weights, standing on the scales throws it off a little bit for your axle weights. To me, axle weights are the most important thing.

If you were standing on a scale, your body weight went to the overall weight but also only the axle weight of the scale you were on. So if you were on the front scale, your front axle isn't quite as high as it read.

Maybe take 110 lbs. off the scale your were standing on and add it to the other. It still leaves your overall weight the same.

Not trying to be a stickler. But if you're being as attentive as to fill it with fuel, etc., that could effect your numbers a little.

[CWSWine]

Remember that axle weights are static weights, that is why the GVWR is below the axle ratings. If load to the axle weights and don't move the truck you are fine but when you start down the road you will exceed the axle ratings with the first bump or hill you go down and apply the brakes.

Don't you think with the payload wars of the big three if was safe to load to axle weights they would all be using axles weights for payload ratings.

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Originally Posted by 325BH

As you have found, the 3/4 tons and their "paper" GVWR of 10,000 lbs really limits payload.

However, once you understand your F250 is identical to an F350 (with the possible exception of 4" blocks under the spring pack), you will realize you have much more real-world payload capacity.

It is simply a matter of: do you care about the GVWR or not.


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I want to stay legal but I would not worry about going over the GVWR by a small percentage. BTW I do have the 4" blocks under the spring pack.

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Originally Posted by KFX450RXC

Zoom. If you're trying to be 100% exact on your weights, standing on the scales throws it off a little bit for your axle weights. To me, axle weights are the most important thing.

If you were standing on a scale, your body weight went to the overall weight but also only the axle weight of the scale you were on. So if you were on the front scale, your front axle isn't quite as high as it read.

Maybe take 110 lbs. off the scale your were standing on and add it to the other. It still leaves your overall weight the same.

Not trying to be a stickler. But if you're being as attentive as to fill it with fuel, etc., that could effect your numbers a little.

You are correct. I believe the scale operator weighed the truck before I got back into the cab.

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Originally Posted by FrankG

Thanks for the weight info. I have only been here a short time but have learned that if you are thinking of upgrading to a 5er you need a 350.

You are welcome! One thing I have learned is to weigh the truck during a test drive. By using the Ford info my truck as is (I can subtract my add-ons) should have weighed about 300 lbs less than my calculated actual weight.

[Eagle2405]

Very interesting, but very much in line to what I have seen myself. I had a F250 diesel 2012, crew cab, king Ranch 4 wheels drive, and the CAT scale weight with hitch and 2 passengers was 8470 lbs, which gave me 1530 lbs of payload available for my Fifth wheel.
Conclusion: not a good combination to tow a FW. I changed It for a F350, with 1500 lbs more GVWR.
The 3 options that hurt the payload are: diesel (400 lbs min), 4 wheels drive, and crew cab. The best F 250 for payload is a gaz engine, 2 wheels drive, regular cab. Welcome in the world of Good WT (working truck).

Eagle 2405
Sabre fifth wheel 31 CKTS
F 350 King Ranch diesel 2012

[GaryHowe]

You are right on.... I have a 2016 F-250 extended cab, 2 wd, 6.2 gas. This truck has a payload capacity of 3,300 lbs. And a tow capacity of 12,600 lbs. I currently tow a Windjammer 3029 TT, but plan to move up to a 5th wheel in the future.

Windjammer 3029W
F-250 XLT Extended cab, 6.2 gas, Factory 5th Wheel prep.

[325BH]

Originally Posted by CWSWine

Remember that axle weights are static weights, that is why the GVWR is below the axle ratings.

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No, they are not static weights.

If your rear GAWR is 6,100 lbs, you can put the whole 6,100 on the rear axle and head down the road. Of course your front axle can't be loaded to max in order to stay under GVWR.

GVWR has a lot of factors. For 3/4 ton trucks, the 10,000 GVWR is to keep it a class 2 truck. 10,001 would be a class 3 truck. There are many other reasons that go into GVWR. Braking system, engine, transmission, classifications, etc., etc., etc.

The GAWR are actual "what the axle is rated to handle". This is why I pay attention to the GAWR's and max tire load... and don't worry about GVWR. Others may care, I do not and don't sweat it.

Flame on...




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[CWSWine]

So explain why on my F350 that class 3 truck and can have a GVWR as high as 14,000 lbs they don't rate to axle ratings. I have 11,500 GVWR which is about 450 to 500 below my 7,000 lbs axle ratings. With the wars going on between the big three in who has the Best In Class Payload it would easy to up it to the axle ratings if it was safe to do.


By the way I did just make that up, I ask that question on tour of the Ford plant and that what they told us.

Originally Posted by 325BH

No, they are not static weights.

If your rear GAWR is 6,100 lbs, you can put the whole 6,100 on the rear axle and head down the road. Of course your front axle can't be loaded to max in order to stay under GVWR.

GVWR has a lot of factors. For 3/4 ton trucks, the 10,000 GVWR is to keep it a class 2 truck. 10,001 would be a class 3 truck. There are many other reasons that go into GVWR. Braking system, engine, transmission, classifications, etc., etc., etc.

The GAWR are actual "what the axle is rated to handle". This is why I pay attention to the GAWR's and max tire load... and don't worry about GVWR. Others may care, I do not and don't sweat it.

Flame on...




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Originally Posted by GaryHowe

You are right on.... I have a 2016 F-250 extended cab, 2 wd, 6.2 gas. This truck has a payload capacity of 3,300 lbs. And a tow capacity of 12,600 lbs. I currently tow a Windjammer 3029 TT, but plan to move up to a 5th wheel in the future.

Windjammer 3029W
F-250 XLT Extended cab, 6.2 gas, Factory 5th Wheel prep.

Is that payload capacity on the yellow sticker at the drivers door? The reason I ask is my sticker says 2059 lbs payload but the Ford website rates my truck at 3000 lbs and tow capacity of 14,000 lbs. My truck is highly optioned and that might make a difference.

[CWSWine]

Originally Posted by Zoom

Is that payload capacity on the yellow sticker at the drivers door? The reason I ask is my sticker says 2059 lbs payload but the Ford website rates my truck at 3000 lbs and tow capacity of 14,000 lbs. My truck is highly optioned and that might make a difference.

That is the difference between a low option and the high option. The website rates mine at 4050 but the yellow sticker says 3744. Mine is NOT high option truck. To get the tow capacity you need to subtract the weight of YOUR truck ready to camp from the Gross Combine Weight Ratings.

[Wheels Down]

Someone once told me "you want more truck than trailer", so
I got a good deal on a 2016 F-250 CC 6.2L Gas 3.73 Lariat.
On the maiden voyage I hooked up to my TT, Flagstaff Super Lite 27 BEWS.
The TT I figure is maybe 8000 lbs. fully loaded with the WDH.
I got on a CAT Scale on the way and had 14,460 total. TV full of fuel and TT combined.
Truck is rated for 19,000 lbs. tow capacity. It tows very well and stops safely. I am not planning on an upgrade to the trailer or a 5er.
If I am overloaded on something, I'm all ears.
Thanks, RMc