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Old 01-09-2017, 04:05 PM   #1
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Ford F-150 diesel coming in 2018 | Fox News
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:33 PM   #2
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I have been hoping they would do this for years. It wouldn't work for me but if it migrates into the expedition or navigator I know what the DW's next vehicle will be.


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Old 01-12-2017, 06:00 PM   #3
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But they're already skimpy on payload. Add a (heavy) diesel, have even less payload? What's the point of a diesel if you can't carry anything?
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:39 PM   #4
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But they're already skimpy on payload. Add a (heavy) diesel, have even less payload? What's the point of a diesel if you can't carry anything?
How are they skimpy on payload? My supercrew 4x4 fully loaded xlt has a payload of 1960lbs. I'm pretty sure thats way more than any other 1/2 ton truck.
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:52 PM   #5
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I wondering the same thing. My payload is 1830 with the 36 gal. tank. Somebody needs to do their homework.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:39 PM   #6
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He is referring to the payload of the F150...not the Super Duty! Article has to do with adding diesel to the F150 line.
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I wondering the same thing. My payload is 1830 with the 36 gal. tank. Somebody needs to do their homework.
And somebody needs to re-read the original post...all about F150's! Not Super Duty's
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I see they all have the 10 speed slush-o-matic tranny that Ford has been working on. My BIL is the head design engineer on that project.

That's all I'll say on that. My wife wants a diesel ranger.
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And somebody needs to re-read the original post...all about F150's! Not Super Duty's
My 2014 F150 with the same tank and payload capacity could never be confused with a super duty. I do not think he said that...
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GM and Fiat will be playing catch up. The Fiat 1500 diesel has pretty poor payload.
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When the gummit is done with Fiat over excessive diesel emissions on the little motor, it may not be available anymore....
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I was talking about an F-150.
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with what F150s cost now, the diesel option will make them much more expensive than a diesel dually
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How are they skimpy on payload? My supercrew 4x4 fully loaded xlt has a payload of 1960lbs. I'm pretty sure thats way more than any other 1/2 ton truck.
I'm not dissing diesels or F150s. I agree that F150s have a good payload compared to others in the 1/2 ton class. By "skimpy" I'm referring to 1/2 ton trucks in general. Other than a buyer just wanting a diesel because it's a diesel, I'm trying to understand the benefit of a diesel in that truck.

I have a 2016 5.5' SCrew with 1730# payload capacity. I'm happy with the truck and consider that payload respectable for its class but I had to weigh my options and make trade-offs.

A diesel engine is going to weigh considerably more than large V8, no? That changes the payload from respectable to marginally respectable. Add 4WD and it goes lower, because of the weight of the drive system?
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The reason everyone is wanting to use diesel, is to bring up the fleet average fuel economy.
CAFE' standards for 2025 say that the manufacturer's must have a 54.5 mpg fleet average by 2025.
Every little bit helps.
Ram came out with there little diesel a year or 2 ago, and GM came out with the little Duramax, in the Colorado and Canyon trucks that hit the lots in Aug. 2015.
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I was talking about an F-150.
Right - but if you take an average half ton with a 1700-1800 lb payload and put a diesel in it, you add 600 pounds to the weight of the truck, which comes off the payload rating. Then you are at 1100-1200 lbs payload. Pretty light, especially for somebody thinking buying a diesel will give them big towing numbers. That's the knock on the Ram eco-diesel and the Titan. Like Miller Time said, these half ton diesels are really about better fuel economy - they aren't tow monsters like the one ton diesels are.

Not sure why Ford went with a diesel option after resisting the idea for so long. Must be they think there is a market for these.
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Will this be an aluminum body?
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Fords has had a small 'euro-diesel' for a while now, it's used in european only vehicles like the Transit Van so that will be the engine here. The modular eco-boost engine can also be converted to diesel if necessary.

I agree, CAFE standards are driving the light duty diesels, not real world application.

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The payload issue is an easy fix. The F150 in the 2013-2015 range, and maybe earlier, had a GVWR as high as 7700 pounds if equipped with the MaxTow package. Everything about the new ones is supposedly stronger and better, yet they lowered the GVWR. Simply include the "Max Tow" package on all new diesel F150s, crank the GVWR back up to 7700, and you've got close to 2K payload again. How much did I win for having the correct answer???
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The payload issue is an easy fix. The F150 in the 2013-2015 range, and maybe earlier, had a GVWR as high as 7700 pounds if equipped with the MaxTow package. Everything about the new ones is supposedly stronger and better, yet they lowered the GVWR. Simply include the "Max Tow" package on all new diesel F150s, crank the GVWR back up to 7700, and you've got close to 2K payload again. How much did I win for having the correct answer???
That is true. But the new aluminum F150 is about 700 lbs lighter; I think that is your point. So, 7700 gets you a lot of payload; well over 2K.

By the way, the Nissan XD diesel also has a payload problem; as in not enough of it to reasonably justify their diesel engine. Way more motor for pulling than chassis for hauling/towing. Less payload than a HDPP F150.
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