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09-10-2018, 03:03 PM
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2019 F250 payload
I checked everywhere I could think of to find the payload of the truck we have on order and came up with 2200-3560 #, so basically useless info. I called Ford directly and gave them the model specifics: 2019 F250/ Supercab, diesel, 4x4, XLT with virtually no options. So as per factory Ford rep payload is 2680-2780# depending on non suspension options chosen.
So as you can see, "standard" payload as compared to max payload varies by appx 800#, quite a large difference.
This shows that unless you opt for a max payload/ tow package, true numbers are hard to find when ordering !!!
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09-10-2018, 03:34 PM
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I'll bet there is still a substantial variation in actual payloads for the max payload versions based on what other options are installed.
Off road package - about 100 lbs
Moon roof - 50 lbs
Bed liner, cap, toneau, running boards, steps, 4x4, etc....
Basically everything installed at the factory will be factored into the number. Anything added after the factory has to be subtracted by the owner.
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09-10-2018, 03:37 PM
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We have a 2018 F250 gasser Supercab Lariat. The payload is 3,100. The diesel costs you a good 800 pounds. I'd say your payload is going to be closer to 2,300. F250 and diesel makes no sense to me. If you really need a diesel, an F350 makes more sense to get the payload back up to where you can pull a 5er for example.
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09-10-2018, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acadianbob
We have a 2018 F250 gasser Supercab Lariat. The payload is 3,100. The diesel costs you a good 800 pounds. I'd say your payload is going to be closer to 2,300. F250 and diesel makes no sense to me. If you really need a diesel, an F350 makes more sense to get the payload back up to where you can pull a 5er for example.
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The reason I contacted Ford directly was so I could get an accurate number. The payload is not reduced by the full additional weight of the diesel because some suspension items automatically get upgraded when opting for the diesel.
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09-10-2018, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acadianbob
We have a 2018 F250 gasser Supercab Lariat. The payload is 3,100. The diesel costs you a good 800 pounds. I'd say your payload is going to be closer to 2,300. F250 and diesel makes no sense to me. If you really need a diesel, an F350 makes more sense to get the payload back up to where you can pull a 5er for example.
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Since the f250 and f350 share the same rear end only different springs . adding the extra spring kit is most likely cheaper then the difference between a 250 and 350
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09-10-2018, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Artspe
The reason I contacted Ford directly was so I could get an accurate number. The payload is not reduced by the full additional weight of the diesel because some suspension items automatically get upgraded when opting for the diesel.
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Well, yes and no. The weight of the diesel comes into play if you also have the optional 10,000 or 9,900 GVWR downgrades. In those cases, even though the trucks suspension is physically more capable, due to the downgrade, your stickered payload IS affected by the curb weight of the vehicle. Basically, you're left with:
Downgraded GVWR - Curb Weight = payload on sticker.
My 2018 F250 CC Lariat, 4x4, 6.75 Box, 6.2 Gasser optioned the way I did, has a stickered payload of 2849. The diesel F250s I was test driving before doing my order, with many similar options, were stickered around 1900 lbs payload.
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09-10-2018, 07:54 PM
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diesels do eat up payload . my old chevy 2500 hd gasser has a payload of 3206
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09-11-2018, 12:54 AM
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UVW comes off of GVWR. 10,000 is 10,000 whether you have a gasser or diesel. An F250 6.7 will be in the very low 2,000's. It won't be anywhere near 2700 lbs unless for put the F250 on a binge diet.
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09-11-2018, 11:15 AM
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The ford literature does a good job of guesstimating the payload. As others of have said the diesel costs a lot of payload. As do the options you get. For me a 250 was not an option as I was looking for the biggest payload without a dually. When I ordered mine I figured I should be around 4100lbs and I am a little better than that. Only reason is to get lower GVWR is for registration. If there is no penalty then go for the 11.5K package.
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09-11-2018, 11:38 AM
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I've seen F250 6.7 in the Platinum trims with under 2000 lbs. 1950-2000 lbs is not that uncommon in a fully loaded 3/4 ton diesel.
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09-13-2018, 09:01 AM
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What good is 9,900 vs 10k?
Just get a 350 cost difference is negligible last time I looked.
Also 3/4 ton. And 1 ton are just words these days, as shown by people's numbers. My 3500 drw using scale weight - rating = 2.5 tons so 1 ton means nothing.
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09-13-2018, 09:28 AM
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9900 is for us Canadians. 4500 kgs = 9920.802 lbs. Conversely, 9900 lbs = 4490.564 kgs
There's a very grey area around that 4500 kg mark. First off, Ontario considers all pickup trucks as 'Commercial' regardless of use. They also state that if your GVWR is over 4500 kgs, you need to have a Commercial Vehicle Operators Registration (CVOR), unless you meet certain exceptions (which most personal use pickups will). That means we could go with a 350, without needing to have a CVOR. However, in a different part of the regs, it requires all commercial vehicles over 4500 kgs to have inspections.
This is where the really greyish part of the grey area comes in. The inspections refers to 'commercial vehicles', not the CVOR. Some interpret that as "if I don't need a CVOR, I don't need to comply with the inspections", some interpret that as "Since my pickup is classified as commercial, regardless of the lack of CVOR, I have to do annual inspections if my GVWR is over 4500". I've seen stories from both sides of the house. Some say they drive their F350's around with no problem, some say they've been pulled over and had to show an inspection sticker.
I'd rather not have that headache, so, by taking the 9900 GVWR option (4490 kgs) I'm under the 4500 kgs mark and never have to worry about a particular officer's interpretation of the regs.
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09-13-2018, 09:38 AM
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I don't want to high jack the thread, but since you guys are discussing F250's. the Dodge dealer down the road from me has a 2003 F250HD w/ 6.0L turbodiesel w/ 55,000 miles on it. Normally I'm looking for low miles, but the mileage on this is low enough to make me nervous. Would changing all the fluids (oil, tranny, diff's, radiator, brake) alleviate my (probably irrational) concern? I've never had a diesel.
Thanks - Mitch
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09-13-2018, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillMitch
I don't want to high jack the thread, but since you guys are discussing F250's. the Dodge dealer down the road from me has a 2003 F250HD w/ 6.0L turbodiesel w/ 55,000 miles on it. Normally I'm looking for low miles, but the mileage on this is low enough to make me nervous. Would changing all the fluids (oil, tranny, diff's, radiator, brake) alleviate my (probably irrational) concern? I've never had a diesel.
Thanks - Mitch
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55,000 is low for a diesel. You do need to be cautious of the 6.0 unless someone sunk tons of money into it to "bullet proof" it I wouldn't do it they had lots of very expensive problems. Lots of info out there.
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09-13-2018, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by robbiels7
55,000 is low for a diesel. You do need to be cautious of the 6.0 unless someone sunk tons of money into it to "bullet proof" it I wouldn't do it they had lots of very expensive problems. Lots of info out there.
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If it had like six thousand miles then I would be concerned about lack of use. But I agree the 6 liter just isn't worth the trouble of dealing with. My good friend who will never say a bad thing about his Ford loves his 6.0 never gave him any problems except for the two times he had to have head work done. The last time and the reason why he traded it in it needed over $10,000 worth of work done to it
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09-13-2018, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaadk
9900 is for us Canadians. 4500 kgs = 9920.802 lbs. Conversely, 9900 lbs = 4490.564 kgs
There's a very grey area around that 4500 kg mark. First off, Ontario considers all pickup trucks as 'Commercial' regardless of use. They also state that if your GVWR is over 4500 kgs, you need to have a Commercial Vehicle Operators Registration (CVOR), unless you meet certain exceptions (which most personal use pickups will). That means we could go with a 350, without needing to have a CVOR. However, in a different part of the regs, it requires all commercial vehicles over 4500 kgs to have inspections.
This is where the really greyish part of the grey area comes in. The inspections refers to 'commercial vehicles', not the CVOR. Some interpret that as "if I don't need a CVOR, I don't need to comply with the inspections", some interpret that as "Since my pickup is classified as commercial, regardless of the lack of CVOR, I have to do annual inspections if my GVWR is over 4500". I've seen stories from both sides of the house. Some say they drive their F350's around with no problem, some say they've been pulled over and had to show an inspection sticker.
I'd rather not have that headache, so, by taking the 9900 GVWR option (4490 kgs) I'm under the 4500 kgs mark and never have to worry about a particular officer's interpretation of the regs.
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Wow... thx for the info
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09-13-2018, 10:05 AM
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I have a 2017 F250 XL/STX CCSB 4x4 with the diesel. My payload is just a hair under 2600.
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09-13-2018, 10:07 AM
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Thanks for the input guys. I don't need anything that big, but it got me thinking.
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09-13-2018, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MillMitch
Thanks for the input guys. I don't need anything that big, but it got me thinking.
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No problem. Rving is as it is a money pit. Our tow vehicles shouldn't have to be. We all hope that is.
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09-13-2018, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Artspe
I checked everywhere I could think of to find the payload of the truck we have on order and came up with 2200-3560 #, so basically useless info. I called Ford directly and gave them the model specifics: 2019 F250/ Supercab, diesel, 4x4, XLT with virtually no options. So as per factory Ford rep payload is 2680-2780# depending on non suspension options chosen.
So as you can see, "standard" payload as compared to max payload varies by appx 800#, quite a large difference.
This shows that unless you opt for a max payload/ tow package, true numbers are hard to find when ordering !!!
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What is it that you are planning to tow with this new truck?
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