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07-20-2020, 05:04 PM
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2020 Ford Escape Hybrid Toad Wiring
Has anybody done a wire harness on a 2020 ford escape hybrid to make it a toad?
Curt has a kit advertised for 2020 SE, but not titanium and I am having problems with Support on the phone.
Etrailer has this kit where I cut the wires and install diodes .
I think the older model harness is what they are using on the 2020 SE, and I bet it fits the Titanium but has anybody else done this?
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07-20-2020, 07:50 PM
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I am surprised to hear that specific vehicle, especially a hybrid, is flat towable.
Blue Ox has downloadable detsiled instructions for all the vehicles they provide base plates, diodes, etc for.
You might want to check there, their instructions include many pictures.
Chris
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07-21-2020, 07:11 AM
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Here is what Blue Ox wants to sell me. I don't want to cut the wire harness if I don't have to.
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07-21-2020, 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parise
I am surprised to hear that specific vehicle, especially a hybrid, is flat towable.
Chris
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Only the Hybrid escape is flat towable.
you go into the menu settings and select Neutral Tow mode in the information display. (I even had them show me this menu selection)
70 MPH max speed, quick transmission run beginning of day and at least every 6 hours towing.
We bought it because my Wife loves escapes, and she was due for a new one. But the side affect that it IS towable is great.
Our 2006 Jeep Liberty we tow is stuck at our PA home for when I go up there to work and the MH stays at our full time home in FL.
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07-21-2020, 07:48 AM
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Interesting.
We have a 2016 Escape Titanium AWD. Would love to be able to tow it but it's not towable. Our 2013 GMC Acadia Denali AWD on the other hand is flat towable. Almost set it up this spring, quotes and all from the dealer, then the virus hit. That's how I knew about the Blue Ox detailed instructions because I wanted to know how they were going to alter my vehicle, down to the knats ass.
We had a Saturn Vue Hybrid. A good city car although we did take it on a few long trips and it was manageable. In the end we didnt like the technology and reality of maintaining 2 power systems. And although it was nearly seamless did not like the stop/start technology although that's gotten more popular on a lot of cars now. Sold it to our nephew, and still being driven daily. Then we bought the Escape.
I know you dont want to cut the wiring harness, but could you go into more of your concern? I dont like altering any factory setup myself but to tow I would accept it.
Thoughts?
Chris
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2006 Sunseeker 2860DS Ford V10 5 speed with Tow/Haul
Winegard T4 In Motion Satellite Dish
Furion Rear Camera, RecPro 70" Recliners
Mohawk Luxury Vinyl Plank Flooring
2013 AWD Acadia Denali, Blue Ox Equipped
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07-21-2020, 09:41 AM
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Here is the install directions for the blue ox wiring kit when I look up a 2013 GMC Denali. https://www.blueox.com/wp-content/up.../02/BX8848.pdf
you have to cut the tail and brake light wires to wire them to these diode blocks. I don't like to modify the factory wiring harness when some companies actually ship the kits with wire harness where you unplug your tail lights and plug into the TOAD harness.
Here is the one for the GMC from Curt.
https://www.curtmfg.com/part/58908
(can be found for a lot less with search in internet)
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07-21-2020, 11:36 AM
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It is definitely a matter of individual preference.
Either plug and play connection from your Motorhome to your towed vehicle to operate your tail lights or a one time diode and wiring connection.
Chris
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2006 Sunseeker 2860DS Ford V10 5 speed with Tow/Haul
Winegard T4 In Motion Satellite Dish
Furion Rear Camera, RecPro 70" Recliners
Mohawk Luxury Vinyl Plank Flooring
2013 AWD Acadia Denali, Blue Ox Equipped
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07-25-2020, 05:29 PM
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I'd be very careful cutting the Ford wiring on my Escape. The Ford LED light fixtures are ridiculously priced and I'm not willing to take any chance of damaging one.
I use the Tow Mate RVHW32 Wireless RV Tow Light Package and it works great. Easy to install, no wiring except to 12VDC power, and very bright. I just plug the transmitter in to my 7 Pin connector on the motor home and plug it in to 12VDC power in the TOAD. Quick easy and no permanent wiring to deal with.
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2024 Sunseeker 2150SLEF / Ford E-350 Off-line 15 April 2024.
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07-29-2020, 07:33 PM
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Well I solved this problem. Went out and bought a 2018 C-max Hybrid. Still in factory bumper to bumper warranty until next February. Went with the 18 because they had worked out all the problems by then.
Its flat towable and does not have LED light panels for rear lights.
its still separate Brake/turn/tail, and I can't find any unique wire harness adapters for this car, but I don't mind cutting wires to install a module on a used car .
Plus this keeps the rock chips from Motorhome off the Wife's new car.
Plus I might also wire it for a 4 pin so I can tow my little motorcycle trailer around, maybe. But a rear hitch for sure so I can put my rear rack in it I use to carry stuff like Harbor Freight 3500 generator when going extended dry camping.
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07-29-2020, 07:50 PM
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Thanks for the update.
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2006 Sunseeker 2860DS Ford V10 5 speed with Tow/Haul
Winegard T4 In Motion Satellite Dish
Furion Rear Camera, RecPro 70" Recliners
Mohawk Luxury Vinyl Plank Flooring
2013 AWD Acadia Denali, Blue Ox Equipped
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07-30-2020, 11:22 AM
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I solved the problem in a similar manner. I've been looking for a project vehicle to play around with and found a nice Jeep Cherokee. Solved my desire for a project and added a easy to convert tow vehicle. Plus now I can go on back roads that I wouldn't even consider taking the Escape.
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2024 Sunseeker 2150SLEF / Ford E-350 Off-line 15 April 2024.
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11-09-2020, 08:16 PM
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2020 escape hybrid braking system
I tow a 2020 escape hybrid but issues finding a breaking system. I tried the Brake Buddy select 3 could not get to do anything but slam on the brakes. Has anyone used the RVI 3 with hybrid
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10-23-2022, 07:21 AM
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2020 Escape Hybrid Platinum toad issues
We had a Brake Buddy 3 installed to tow our 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid Titanium with our 2019 Jayco Greyhawk 30Z. The first issue I noticed was that everytime the brakes engaged, it was as if I slammed them on - the tires would even screetch. I tried to adjust the sensitivity but it still seems like an all or nothing reaction.
The most annoying issue is that the electric battery dies almost everytime we tow. I'm not sure if this is an issue with the battery in general or if it related to the way the Brake Buddy was wired. I do start the car everytime that I stop now but even that doesn't completely resolve the issue. I stop every couple of hours and never drive more than 6 1/2 hrs in one day.
As a side note, the car (shifter) also sometimes gets stuck in park for no apparent reason which is super annoying. My wife is ready to get rid of it but I would love to find solutions for these issues.
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10-23-2022, 09:23 AM
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We discovered that the 2020 Escape has 12v battery that is too small. In fact ford increased the size for 2021. Ours went dead, and ford replaced the 12v battery no questions asked, but refused to put the 2021 upgraded size in (even if I paid the difference). Plus its not really something you can change by yourself without a tool like forscan to reprogram the computers so the escape knows about the new battery size. in fact you even need to tell the car when you replace the battery with the same size one.
as for dying while towing, do you have a 12v feed to the Toad from the MH to charge the 12v battery while underway? Another suggestion might be to power it from an auxiliary battery sitting on floor of escape instead of factory battery.
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