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Old 02-04-2020, 11:13 AM   #1
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2500 vs 3500

Not another one! Actually this one is a little different.

I've been researching my next rig and have built and priced using the Ramtrucks website comparing a 2020 Laramie 2500 vs 3500 Mega Cab 4x4 with diesel (non-HO)

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Price difference with exact same options = $895
3500 = $95,500 MSRP
2500 = $94,605 MSRP
All Canadian funds

Now dealer pricing on the same truck with the highest volume truck dealer in Alberta:

3500 $84,350 with 5% tax in, discount of 18.9% from MSRP including tax
2500 $86,855 with tax (none exist in dealer inventory, have to order), discount of 14.4% from MSRP including tax.

Why would anyone ever buy a 2500? Now to come up with $85k in fundage for a truck that will last me 15 years.

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I know that for some a 1-ton truck is subject to some additional fees (registration, insurance) or license issues.

For me in Georgia it's actually cheaper on insurance and the registration is the same so I went with the 1-ton.
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Can't decide if this post is a troll, a subtle brag, or for real, but what the heck, I'll bite.
Even in Canadian $$, those prices are ridiculous, but that's me, not you.
If you are using your truck only for towing, then of course get the 1 ton. If you are using it for an everyday driver with occasional towing then the 3/4 ton might be better. Especially if you don't plan to go up in RV weight.
Everybody makes their own decisions, based on their situation and needs, which might be entirely different from yours.
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Old 02-04-2020, 11:31 AM   #4
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Not another one! Actually this one is a little different.

I've been researching my next rig and have built and priced using the Ramtrucks website comparing a 2020 Laramie 2500 vs 3500 Mega Cab 4x4 with diesel (non-HO)

Options:
Black Appearance group
Bed Utility Group
Laramie level 2 package
Towing Tech group
Wheel to wheel flat painted steps
Towing/5th Wheel Prep


Price difference with exact same options = $895
3500 = $95,500 MSRP
2500 = $94,605 MSRP
All Canadian funds

Now dealer pricing on the same truck with the highest volume truck dealer in Alberta:

3500 $84,350 with 5% tax in, discount of 18.9% from MSRP including tax
2500 $86,855 with tax (none exist in dealer inventory, have to order), discount of 14.4% from MSRP including tax.

Why would anyone ever buy a 2500? Now to come up with $85k in fundage for a truck that will last me 15 years.


When it comes diesels then 1ton is the way to go the diesel eats up lots of payload . Now even worse then the 2500 3500 debate is $85,000 for a truck only expected to get you through 15yrs . I just spent 38,000 and expect more and still it is to much for what you get
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Different strokes for different folks .....I bought my RAM 2500 CTC new back in 2015 I feel I got a great deal at over 20% off MSRP five years later it's perfectly serving my needs which are not all towing related and in that time frame I never thought geez I should have bought a 3500 if and when the day comes that I feel I need to replace the 2500 I'll replace it

Who knows maybe I'll just quit towing a TT and buy a motorhome and just keep it to make runs to Lowes to pickup a couple of bags of mulch or a sheet of plywood every now and then is that justification for having a 2500 ? or do I need a 3500 for that ?
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Why would anyone ever buy a 2500? Now to come up with $85k in fundage for a truck that will last me 15 years.

All has to do with where you're located and how registration works, etc. If you're in Alberta I don't think there's any restriction on the TV or trailer GVWR in regards to registration and drivers licence.
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Not another one! Actually this one is a little different.

I've been researching my next rig and have built and priced using the Ramtrucks website comparing a 2020 Laramie 2500 vs 3500 Mega Cab 4x4 with diesel (non-HO)

Options:
Black Appearance group
Bed Utility Group
Laramie level 2 package
Towing Tech group
Wheel to wheel flat painted steps
Towing/5th Wheel Prep


Price difference with exact same options = $895
3500 = $95,500 MSRP
2500 = $94,605 MSRP
All Canadian funds

Now dealer pricing on the same truck with the highest volume truck dealer in Alberta:

3500 $84,350 with 5% tax in, discount of 18.9% from MSRP including tax
2500 $86,855 with tax (none exist in dealer inventory, have to order), discount of 14.4% from MSRP including tax.

Why would anyone ever buy a 2500? Now to come up with $85k in fundage for a truck that will last me 15 years.


Since your talking 3500's why not consider a DRW 3500 can't be that much more $$$ than a SRW ? Or is that too much overkill ?
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Since your talking 3500's why not consider a DRW 3500 can't be that much more $$$ than a SRW ? Or is that too much overkill ?
Or for that matter, just go to a 450 or 550, or better yet, just buy a used semi tractor. They are much cheaper than a new pickup!
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Or for that matter, just go to a 450 or 550, or better yet, just buy a used semi tractor. They are much cheaper than a new pickup!
One of the first results of a google search.
Future-proof for sure.


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I'd travel south of the border and buy a new Tradesman 3500 for mid-40's.
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I'd travel south of the border and buy a new Tradesman 3500 for mid-40's.
Mid 40's USD is about $62,000 CDN with our exchange rate currently, plus import fees and inspections and 5% tax due at the border, would end up being $70k CDN for a tradesman. I can get one here for about $61k.
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One of the first results of a google search.
Future-proof for sure.


https://vanderhaags.com/detailview.p...CABEgLm7PD_BwE
Not a bad idea, hard to park in a campground though.
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Since your talking 3500's why not consider a DRW 3500 can't be that much more $$$ than a SRW ? Or is that too much overkill ?
3500 would still be for my daily, can't fit a DRW into many places that I need to go due to width or I would consider it.
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All has to do with where you're located and how registration works, etc. If you're in Alberta I don't think there's any restriction on the TV or trailer GVWR in regards to registration and drivers licence.
Correct, no restrictions for licensing or registration...can even b-train if under 65.5' using a fifth wheel as the first trailer.
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I'd travel south of the border and buy a new Tradesman 3500 for mid-40's.
And you can't purchase new and import to Canada, they won't sell it to you...and if you buy used it has to have so many miles on it, otherwise your warranty is null and void. We can thank the Canadian dealers for that, they screamed when too many people were going south to buy, back when our dollar was closer to par.
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Correct, no restrictions for licensing or registration...can even b-train if under 65.5' using a fifth wheel as the first trailer.
A class 5 licence here is limited to a 4600kg trailer. Can't legally b-train but I've seen a few people do it.
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Yep .... 3500 same if not less than 2500 here in FL ... no special registration/tax here ... for diesel 3500 best way to go ... SRW for me ... those prices are crazy for a few $'s more I have Ram 3500 6.7 and a S Class Solitude 2930RL ...
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3500 would still be for my daily, can't fit a DRW into many places that I need to go due to width or I would consider it.
I drive a LWB CC Dually as a daily in Atlanta traffic.

The only place you can't go is a Chick-fil-A drive through.. you'll take out those drive through lane cones.

And the automatic car wash..they don't like me either.

Yep.. got some experience there. :-)
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For the extra money go 3500. You will have a much better pay load. The ram 2500 diesel are to low for the bang for the buck.
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As I remember the Mega cab is several inches longer in wheelbase. So parking in grocery store lots is tougher. It may be the same length as a long bed.

A 3500 has leaf springs and leaf overloads. A 2500 is coils but, should ride a little better. Not much.

You need a overload spring of some type to tow much of a fifth wheel with a 2500. Will sag more easily. Over dmv payload likely.

A ď1 ton truckĒ is considered a commercial vehicle some places in the US with higher license fees. Not everywhere!

I would get the mega truck if you are towing heavy. Roomier cabin as well. A hd truck is tricky to park at best.
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