3/4 ton

[0rion100]

After having been there and done that I would say the first thing you should look at are pin weights on 5ers you think you'd like to own. Then look at payloads for trucks you're interested in. You'll quickly learn that with a 3/4 ton there's going to be a very limited number of 5ers you can handle. Same goes for a single wheel 1 ton....you will have limitations on available 5ers.

[GPs37FLH]

Originally Posted by timfromma

Battle of the links.


Here's another one from Checy that shows a 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel payload capacity of 3563 lbs.


https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/pre...&engineTwo=L5P



All im trying to point out is that while I'm sure that some 3/4 ton diesels are lacking in the payload area, not all are. A blanket statement that all 3/4 ton diesels have no payload is simply untrue.

No arguments from me, Tim. There are so many build options that, once added or taken away, contribute to a higher or lower payload. I was just wondering why some of these third-party sites aren't pulling their numbers right from the company who engineered and built the trucks. All it manages to do is create confusion.

Also, why is it Chevy fails to include the payload capacity of their trucks in the downloadable guide I posted about? Every other possible trailering and towing stat is in the guide, but payload. But, go to the website link you provided and bang, its in there. All of the big three are guilty of this too, not just GM.

[Mr. Dan]

Originally Posted by timfromma

Battle of the links.


Here's another one from Checy that shows a 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel payload capacity of 3563 lbs.


https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/pre...&engineTwo=L5P



All im trying to point out is that while I'm sure that some 3/4 ton diesels are lacking in the payload area, not all are. A blanket statement that all 3/4 ton diesels have no payload is simply untrue.

It's also a battle of terminology. It appears some are talking about towing limits (12,800lb) and some payload capacity (3563 lbs).

[timfromma]

To be 100% transparent, I am one of these 3/4 ton owners whose payload leaves alot to be desired and quite frankly, I don't understand why. All of the specs I read online say that my 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel should have a payload capacity in the 3500 - 3600lb range. I'm embarrassed to admit that in reality, it's just under 1900lbs according to the yellow sticker onside the driver's door. While this is plenty to haul my 30' travel trailer, my truck is not even close to being able to haul a 5th wheel despite the bed being prepped fro a 5th wheel hitch.

[GPs37FLH]

Originally Posted by timfromma

To be 100% transparent, I am one of these 3/4 ton owners whose payload leaves alot to be desired and quite frankly, I don't understand why. All of the specs I read online say that my 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel should have a payload capacity in the 3500 - 3600lb range. I'm embarrassed to admit that in reality, it's just under 1900lbs according to the yellow sticker onside the driver's door. While this is plenty to haul my 30' travel trailer, my truck is not even close to being able to haul a 5th wheel despite the bed being prepped fro a 5th wheel hitch.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. So, why is it GM isn't publishing real world numbers on their sites and in their guides? Cause, damn, having a payload capacity in the range they're publishing for their trucks is a far cry from what the sticker on yours says. I would expect your truck should handle a small to mid sized fiver without any problems.

[MT Biker]

Originally Posted by timfromma

Battle of the links.


Here's another one from Checy that shows a 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel payload capacity of 3563 lbs.


https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/pre...&engineTwo=L5P



All im trying to point out is that while I'm sure that some 3/4 ton diesels are lacking in the payload area, not all are. A blanket statement that all 3/4 ton diesels have no payload is simply untrue.

Please show me the actual payload sticker from any GM 3/4 ton diesel that has that high of a payload capacity.
I'll wait.....

[0rion100]

Originally Posted by MT Biker

Please show me the actual payload sticker from any GM 3/4 ton diesel that has that high of a payload capacity.
I'll wait.....

Maybe this one

[ARhappycamper]

Originally Posted by timfromma

To be 100% transparent, I am one of these 3/4 ton owners whose payload leaves alot to be desired and quite frankly, I don't understand why. All of the specs I read online say that my 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel should have a payload capacity in the 3500 - 3600lb range. I'm embarrassed to admit that in reality, it's just under 1900lbs according to the yellow sticker onside the driver's door. While this is plenty to haul my 30' travel trailer, my truck is not even close to being able to haul a 5th wheel despite the bed being prepped fro a 5th wheel hitch.

All those fancy options you had to have add up to alot of weight.

[ARhappycamper]

Originally Posted by timfromma

Battle of the links.


Here's another one from Checy that shows a 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel payload capacity of 3563 lbs.


https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/pre...&engineTwo=L5P



All im trying to point out is that while I'm sure that some 3/4 ton diesels are lacking in the payload area, not all are. A blanket statement that all 3/4 ton diesels have no payload is simply untrue.

Why is this so hard to understand - Only the base model stripped down single cab long bed or extended/super cab longbed trucks have the high payload rating.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by ARhappycamper

Why is this so hard to understand - Only the base model stripped down single cab long bed or extended/super cab longbed trucks have the high payload rating.

Yep!

[timfromma]

Originally Posted by ARhappycamper

All those fancy options you had to have add up to alot of weight.

1700lbs worth?

[ARhappycamper]

Originally Posted by timfromma

1700lbs worth?

Compared to a 2wd-single cab-bare bones base model, easily.

[BigH]

Originally Posted by timfromma

To be 100% transparent, I am one of these 3/4 ton owners whose payload leaves alot to be desired and quite frankly, I don't understand why. All of the specs I read online say that my 2021 Silverado 2500HD diesel should have a payload capacity in the 3500 - 3600lb range. I'm embarrassed to admit that in reality, it's just under 1900lbs according to the yellow sticker onside the driver's door. While this is plenty to haul my 30' travel trailer, my truck is not even close to being able to haul a 5th wheel despite the bed being prepped fro a 5th wheel hitch.

What is the GVWR on your truck? If you got the 10k GVWR on your truck with the diesel I would expect a low payload the same as with Ford or Ram. GM advertising high payloads with the 2500 series trucks is real...but you have to buy one with the higher GVWR.

Originally Posted by GPs37FLH

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. So, why is it GM isn't publishing real world numbers on their sites and in their guides? Cause, damn, having a payload capacity in the range they're publishing for their trucks is a far cry from what the sticker on yours says. I would expect your truck should handle a small to mid sized fiver without any problems.

Originally Posted by MT Biker

Please show me the actual payload sticker from any GM 3/4 ton diesel that has that high of a payload capacity.
I'll wait.....

https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/top...ctual-payload/

[GPs37FLH]

Originally Posted by ARhappycamper

Why is this so hard to understand - Only the base model stripped down single cab long bed or extended/super cab longbed trucks have the high payload rating.

That isn't hard to understand and makes sense. However, if you take a look at the web link that was posted (#38), the trucks they're showing with the high payloads are NOT stripped down base models with single cab long bed configurations. And no where do they indicate actual payloads will differ, based on other options added. Would love to know where the hell they're getting their data to publish such unrealistic numbers and dis-information.

[timfromma]

Well, I'm well within the limits of what I haul so it's not an issue for me. I will certainly never attempt to haul any kind of 5th wheel with it.

[corn18]

Originally Posted by BigH

What is the GVWR on your truck? If you got the 10k GVWR on your truck with the diesel I would expect a low payload the same as with Ford or Ram. GM advertising high payloads with the 2500 series trucks is real...but you have to buy one with the higher GVWR.





https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/top...ctual-payload/

I love how I can pick my GVWR when I build a truck on the Ford or GM/Chevy site. Obviously I know more than HD truck engineers.

[AlaskaErik]

Originally Posted by corn18

I love how I can pick my GVWR when I build a truck on the Ford or GM/Chevy site. Obviously I know more than HD truck engineers.

Instead of building a truck online, go down to the dealer and have someone with lots of truck experience help you build it.

[corn18]

Originally Posted by AlaskaErik

Instead of building a truck online, go down to the dealer and have someone with lots of truck experience help you build it.

And end up with a de-rated truck? No thanks.

[AKC]

Originally Posted by AlaskaErik

Instead of building a truck online, go down to the dealer and have someone with lots of truck experience help you build it.

Ha, good luck finding one of THOSE! When I was looking to buy my truck, I contacted all local dealerships that sold 3/4 ton trucks and asked specifically to be directed to someone who had a good depth of knowledge about trucks. I was either outright refused, or referred to someone who knew only slightly more than I did at the time (the kind of guy who would tell you "Sure, this can tow whatever you want!" because he only knew to look at the max numbers, not the numbers for the actual truck) and much less than I know now.

I ended up finding a used truck that I liked and running it past some online friends. I already had the trailer, so they just had to look at the numbers and tell me if it would work or not. They approved, and I bought it, and I'm super happy with it.

The thing that kills me is, this place where I ended up buying it, they bill themselves as truck guys, but the two guys who helped me knew almost nothing. You would think, with me spending that kind of money, that I could have gotten someone who knew what they were doing, but no.

[NJKris]

Originally Posted by AKC

Ha, good luck finding one of THOSE! When I was looking to buy my truck, I contacted all local dealerships that sold 3/4 ton trucks and asked specifically to be directed to someone who had a good depth of knowledge about trucks. I was either outright refused, or referred to someone who knew only slightly more than I did at the time (the kind of guy who would tell you "Sure, this can tow whatever you want!" because he only knew to look at the max numbers, not the numbers for the actual truck) and much less than I know now.

I ended up finding a used truck that I liked and running it past some online friends. I already had the trailer, so they just had to look at the numbers and tell me if it would work or not. They approved, and I bought it, and I'm super happy with it.

The thing that kills me is, this place where I ended up buying it, they bill themselves as truck guys, but the two guys who helped me knew almost nothing. You would think, with me spending that kind of money, that I could have gotten someone who knew what they were doing, but no.

Totally not surprised. You are as likely to find someone at a dealership that knows their product as you are to find some kid at Best Buy that knows about electronics.