3/4 ton vs 1 ton 6.4 hemi fuel economy

[CaptnJohn]

Originally Posted by SidecarFlip

My take on fuel prices is, always plan for the worst because, at some point in the future it's going to be expensive again and all the gas (and diesel) guzzler owners will be crying the blues at the fuel pump....again.

Not so. I could care less about the cost of fuel. Unlikely to have much effect when it does go up, none for me. I bought an F350 6.7 without concern of mileage or cost of fuel. I leave my wife's car home and this is my daily driver. Less than 8 months old and 20,740 miles on her. When fuel goes through the roof, and it will again, I always buy a new truck ~~ ever since the 1st time in '79 when gas went over $1 for the 1st time.

[ronheater70]

Originally Posted by Tylerfoster

Brand new to forum and to travel trailer but had rv before.
Just bought 264 tracer, about same weight as you. Looking for truck now. Neighbor helped pick up trailer. 2013 dodge 3/4 ton with 6.2. We got 17 going there and 10.5 towing back. Three hour tow. Handled fine. He was a dodge service manager for four dealerships. He likee gassers. Been looking but cannot find a used 6.2?

Other neighbor towed me on a test run with 2017 Chevy duramax. Felt a little stronger, got 11.5 on about a 40 mile run.
All Florida pretty flat.

I am planning on a Harley in bed so I'm leaning at diesel but I must say the dodge 6.2 was impressive. Not sure why the are hard to find or how different the 6.4 is.

I think he either had the 5.7 or the 6.4, probably the 6.4. I was very pleased with performance during test drive..The 6.4 in a 3500 is hard to find, in the 2500 its much more rare than the 5.7.. I probably have seen 10-12 5.7 2500's for every 1 6.4 I have seen. Buying brand new there is a littl more availability. I am going to look at a 2016 2500 with the 6.4 tonight, its a new left over 16..Decent price Im going to look at it before I pull the trigger on the 3500 i think.

[dustman_stx]

Originally Posted by 325BH

I have a new F250 with the 6.2 gasser. In mixed city/hwy driving without a trailer, I average around 12. Straight hwy I can get around 15. Speed can vary this number greatly. Towing my 11,000 lbs Travel Trailer on the hwy I average around 5-7, depending on speed and terrain (flat vs hills).

I would expect the 6.4 to be similar.

An honest MPG response is a breath of fresh air. I just towed an 8800lb TT 1000 miles with my 6.7 PSD. I could achieve mid 10's at 70 with a 10-15mph tail wind. Low 9's at 70 with a 10-15 mph head wind. And high 9's to low 10's at 65 with little to no wind. This is on stock tires with 3.55 gears. 4x4 Screw. These numbers are below what most report. Maybe they test going downhill with a tail wind. Maybe they run 55 while testing. With some serious hyper-miling techniques I could have probably gotten my numbers into the mid to upper 12's like most report- but it would have been a LOT more work than setting the cruise and going, I can assure you.

[SidecarFlip]

Originally Posted by CaptnJohn

Not so. I could care less about the cost of fuel. Unlikely to have much effect when it does go up, none for me. I bought an F350 6.7 without concern of mileage or cost of fuel. I leave my wife's car home and this is my daily driver. Less than 8 months old and 20,740 miles on her. When fuel goes through the roof, and it will again, I always buy a new truck ~~ ever since the 1st time in '79 when gas went over $1 for the 1st time.

.........but you aren't me. I'm always aware of mpg. I'm on a fixed (somewhat) income. Glad my pre-tier 4 diesel pickup gets 21 empty and 17 pulling. BTW, gas nationwide went up 12 cents last week..... Diesel also went up a bit less.

I'm glad you support the automakers buying a new vehicle often. Not my thing, I don't like financing, depreciation or payment books. A vehicle purchase (new) is one of the worst investments you can make as far as return on investment.

Have fun, keep spending, good for the economy.

[rockfordroo]

Originally Posted by SidecarFlip

.........but you aren't me. I'm always aware of mpg. I'm on a fixed (somewhat) income. Glad my pre-tier 4 diesel pickup gets 21 empty and 17 pulling. BTW, gas nationwide went up 12 cents last week..... Diesel also went up a bit less.

I'm glad you support the automakers buying a new vehicle often. Not my thing, I don't like financing, depreciation or payment books. A vehicle purchase (new) is one of the worst investments you can make as far as return on investment.

Have fun, keep spending, good for the economy.

Buying any vehicle (except maybe some exotics) is NOT an investment, in any way, shape or form. Those words should not be put in the same sentence.

We buy vehicles to serve a purpose, or our egos, but not for an investment.

[Mountndream]

lets face it though, New trucks are now a better value than used trucks due to offers from the manufacture

now, back to the original question. The 6.4 is a towing beast. It just gets really thirsty when doing it

[SidecarFlip]

Originally Posted by rockfordroo

Buying any vehicle (except maybe some exotics) is NOT an investment, in any way, shape or form. Those words should not be put in the same sentence.

We buy vehicles to serve a purpose, or our egos, but not for an investment.

Not always true. In my case and many other instances, a truck performs more than one duty. In my case, my truck is a business vehicle. I farm and my truck is a farm truck, it hauls fuel to the tractors, pulls an equipment trailer and totes my RV.

No driveway profiler here. Mine is a work tool, a write off and an investment in my profession that I cannot do without.

My truck wears many faces, some are dirty...lol

[aceinspp]

Originally Posted by rockfordroo

Buying any vehicle (except maybe some exotics) is NOT an investment, in any way, shape or form. Those words should not be put in the same sentence.

We buy vehicles to serve a purpose, or our egos, but not for an investment.

X 2 and if I was worried about gas mileage I'd have to quit RVing.

[rockfordroo]

Originally Posted by SidecarFlip

Not always true. In my case and many other instances, a truck performs more than one duty. In my case, my truck is a business vehicle. I farm and my truck is a farm truck, it hauls fuel to the tractors, pulls an equipment trailer and totes my RV.

No driveway profiler here. Mine is a work tool, a write off and an investment in my profession that I cannot do without.

My truck wears many faces, some are dirty...lol

You're claiming a "depreciation" on your work truck. Again, NOT an investment. It's a business expense.

[ronheater70]

Originally Posted by dustman_stx

An honest MPG response is a breath of fresh air. I just towed an 8800lb TT 1000 miles with my 6.7 PSD. I could achieve mid 10's at 70 with a 10-15mph tail wind. Low 9's at 70 with a 10-15 mph head wind. And high 9's to low 10's at 65 with little to no wind. This is on stock tires with 3.55 gears. 4x4 Screw. These numbers are below what most report. Maybe they test going downhill with a tail wind. Maybe they run 55 while testing. With some serious hyper-miling techniques I could have probably gotten my numbers into the mid to upper 12's like most report- but it would have been a LOT more work than setting the cruise and going, I can assure you.

With my ecoboost, the only way I get the advertised mileage is if I TRY to hit the target, normal driving and not paying attention to throttle position etc makes about a 2.5 mpg difference at least!

[ronheater70]

New thread started with different issue regarding warranty..

[CaptnJohn]

Originally Posted by SidecarFlip

.........but you aren't me. I'm always aware of mpg. I'm on a fixed (somewhat) income. Glad my pre-tier 4 diesel pickup gets 21 empty and 17 pulling. BTW, gas nationwide went up 12 cents last week..... Diesel also went up a bit less.

I'm glad you support the automakers buying a new vehicle often. Not my thing, I don't like financing, depreciation or payment books. A vehicle purchase (new) is one of the worst investments you can make as far as return on investment.

Have fun, keep spending, good for the economy.

And you are not me ! My truck is also my daily driver. No vehicle is an investment, they are for work, pleasure, or a combo. Investments were for me years ago. Time to enjoy the fruits of those investments and not pinch pennies. I have not worked since March of 2003 so my income is fixed too. Time for me to enjoy life and watching fuel prices is not a fun way to spend time for me. BTW, the only automaker I support is Ford.

[CaptnJohn]

Own both ~~ 2016 F250 and F350. The F250 gets slightly better mileage but has 331 instead of 355 rears. Both Lariat Ultimate trim. The 250 runs 17" tires instead of 20" on the 350. That's all folks.

[ronheater70]

As mentioned in a thread above, I ended up purchasing a new 3/4 ton last night.. I dont know what I was thinking in comparing the MPG between the 1 ton and 3.4 ton.. I was expecting there to be more of a weight difference than there was.

[Tylerfoster]

My mistake, he said 6.2 but he pulled up yesterday and has the 5.7 logo. Nice truck though. Not sure of how it would perform in mountains but daily and towing mpg was not that much different than the duramax

[Brewhedd]

Originally Posted by ronheater70

As mentioned in a thread above, I ended up purchasing a new 3/4 ton last night.. I dont know what I was thinking in comparing the MPG between the 1 ton and 3.4 ton.. I was expecting there to be more of a weight difference than there was.

Congrats, good move. A used '14 for 29k was ridiculous.

[rat4spd]

Originally Posted by rockfordroo

You're claiming a "depreciation" on your work truck. Again, NOT an investment. It's a business expense.

A business expense would be lunch, tangible assets used to generate money are investments, including depreciating assets.

[ronheater70]

Originally Posted by Brewhedd

Congrats, good move. A used '14 for 29k was ridiculous.

Yea, I was kind of excited at first, the 14 3500 was certainly a few more bells and whistles than the 16 I purchased, however BECAUSE I dont have all the options on the 2500, I have great payload, even with the 8 foot bed. (3100 pounds) WHich should give me everything I need for trailer and family and roughly 1700 pounds to spare so i have enough left to throw an ATV or my motorcycle in back, etc..

[rat4spd]

You should be happy with it. The mileage won't be too awful.

[rockfordroo]

Originally Posted by rat4spd

A business expense would be lunch, tangible assets used to generate money are investments, including depreciating assets.

I think you're using investment as a "generic term," (as in "investing in a new factory") although I'm no expert and I could be wrong. But I've never seen "investments" on a company's balance sheets.

In any case, even if true, use of a business vehicle for personal use is only an "investment" because that isn't the intended use for which the depreciation tax benefit is allowed, i.e., it is "ripping off the tax payers" (even though it is very often done).