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Old 08-14-2017, 09:35 AM   #1
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4th Gen Ram 2500 4x4 - tow a 5er

I am looking for any 4th gen (2013-2017) Ram 2500 4x4 owners who tow a 5th wheel. Recently purchased a 2017 Big Horn model and wondering about towing a 5er with it.

I am presently towing a TT with mine, but thinking of going back to a 5er. Can't make up my mind what I want... Started with a TT, then a 5er, back to a TT, now looking at 5er's.

I had a 5er with my old Ram 2500 2wd, but with the new truck I know it sits at least 6" higher.

Wanted to see if anyone towing a 5er have any clearance problems between the top of the bed and the 5er? Able to keep the 5er pretty level when hooked up, etc. etc.?

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I tow my signature below and don't have any issues. Trailer is level when towing.

You may have payload issues since you have the diesel, but that's the only concern i would have with your combo. What does the sticker on the door say your payload is?
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You can always adjust the hitch in the truck or on the 5er or both to gain the clearance that you need.
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I tow my signature below and don't have any issues. Trailer is level when towing.

You may have payload issues since you have the diesel, but that's the only concern i would have with your combo. What does the sticker on the door say your payload is?
I believe my payload is around the 2500-3000 area. More than enough for anything I would tow. Not looking to go over 32-34'
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You can always adjust the hitch in the truck or on the 5er or both to gain the clearance that you need.
True...did not want to crank up the hitch in the truck to high. Then the 5er would not be level.
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I believe my payload is around the 2500-3000 area. More than enough for anything I would tow. Not looking to go over 32-34'
Guessing that you didn't add too many options outside of what comes with it standard...RAM sites says around 2218...door sticker will tell you for sure. So you will just need to be careful when searching for a 5er.

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I believe my payload is around the 2500-3000 area. More than enough for anything I would tow. Not looking to go over 32-34'
i think when we looked they were about 2200 for the diesels. Make sure you check this on the door.

Poster above says specs list at 2218... so most likely lower
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Guessing that you didn't add too many options outside of what comes with it standard...RAM sites says around 2218...door sticker will tell you for sure. So you will just need to be careful when searching for a 5er.

In my Ram 2500 the door sticker said 2197 it was the SLT 4x4, this is the exact reason I went to the 3500 when I got my 5er. When I added us 4 (me, wife and 2 kids) and the hitch to the truck I was left with right around 1600lbs of payload. Not many 5ers out there with a pin weight under that, I think that equates to roughly a 8k lb 5er (20% of 8000 is 1600 pin). Not trying to be the weight police just something to think about in making your decision. After having a 5er I dont know if I could ever go back to a TT.....
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Guessing that you didn't add too many options outside of what comes with it standard...RAM sites says around 2218...door sticker will tell you for sure. So you will just need to be careful when searching for a 5er.

There was nothing on door sticker...but did look it up at Ram website...2,218 it is.

Definitely will keep me in the 32-34' range. Looking at some examples, around 1,500-1,700 payload range.
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Towing a 5er with a RAM

I have a 2016 RAM 3500, short bed, 4whl dr, with factory air bags. I am currently towing a 2015 Cedar Creek 38CK with the air bladder king pin. I have a Hi jacker slide hitch, set to the bottom holes (lowest). I have plenty of room between the bed rails and the 5er (8.5"). It sits very level. The problem for me is the height of the unit when hitched up, full of stuff, water, etc. I am 13' 7.5" from the front A/C to the ground. So I have to be very alert when traveling for overhead bridges, tunnels, etc. I can no longer travel thru the Chesapeake Tunnel, or on the PA turnpike to name a few.
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There was nothing on door sticker...but did look it up at Ram website...2,218 it is.

Definitely will keep me in the 32-34' range. Looking at some examples, around 1,500-1,700 payload range.
You won't have much of a selection unless you violate your recommended payload. Take 20% of the 5er GVWR- that will put you in the ball park of approx. pin weight. My small 31 ' HT light weight gives me a 1600 lb pin and add the hitch, passengers, misc adds another 600 lbs. Total payload 2400 lbs.
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I have a 2016 RAM 3500, short bed, 4whl dr, with factory air bags. I am currently towing a 2015 Cedar Creek 38CK with the air bladder king pin. I have a Hi jacker slide hitch, set to the bottom holes (lowest). I have plenty of room between the bed rails and the 5er (8.5"). It sits very level. The problem for me is the height of the unit when hitched up, full of stuff, water, etc. I am 13' 7.5" from the front A/C to the ground. So I have to be very alert when traveling for overhead bridges, tunnels, etc. I can no longer travel thru the Chesapeake Tunnel, or on the PA turnpike to name a few.
If I remember correctly, a dually 4x4 sits lower than a srw 4x4?
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We have a 2012 RAM 3500 with a Cummins and a Blue Ridge 3125 Cabin Edition. I think the only difference between the 2500 and the 3500 is the heavier springs. We have no clearance issues whatsoever. The truck pulls like it has nothing behind it (except for the fuel consumption!). We love our truck/fiver combo.
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My Cougar had a published dry PW of 1705. Loaded ready to camp was over 2300. My F250 6.7 did not have the 3000# payload required for just me and the wife, hitch and etc.
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I am looking for any 4th gen (2013-2017) Ram 2500 4x4 owners who tow a 5th wheel. Recently purchased a 2017 Big Horn model and wondering about towing a 5er with it.

I am presently towing a TT with mine, but thinking of going back to a 5er. Can't make up my mind what I want... Started with a TT, then a 5er, back to a TT, now looking at 5er's.

I had a 5er with my old Ram 2500 2wd, but with the new truck I know it sits at least 6" higher.

Wanted to see if anyone towing a 5er have any clearance problems between the top of the bed and the 5er? Able to keep the 5er pretty level when hooked up, etc. etc.?

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I am towing a 32' Wildcat Sterling 5er with my 2017 Ram CTD. I had to raise the gooseneck 1' and lower the hitch 2" due to the height difference between my old truck and the new Ram. This brought the clearance to 5 1/2 inches between the truck rail and camper which is the minimum amount that Curt recommends on their hitches. I would prefer to have the 7' I had before changing trucks, but I needed to replace my truck as the old one was wearing out. The 5er still rides a slightly nose high even with dropping the hitch and raising the gooseneck. I will be taking it to the Cat scale tomorrow to check axle weights. It was 840# difference between the camper axles running it that nose high. before dropping it
I really do not want to raise the trailer to make it perfectly level so if the weights look better and it is in range for the axle and wheels I will let it alone.
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If I remember correctly, a dually 4x4 sits lower than a srw 4x4?
I don't know. But I would think a 2 whl drive would.
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I am towing a 32' Wildcat Sterling 5er with my 2017 Ram CTD. I had to raise the gooseneck 1' and lower the hitch 2" due to the height difference between my old truck and the new Ram. This brought the clearance to 5 1/2 inches between the truck rail and camper which is the minimum amount that Curt recommends on their hitches. I would prefer to have the 7' I had before changing trucks, but I needed to replace my truck as the old one was wearing out. The 5er still rides a slightly nose high even with dropping the hitch and raising the gooseneck. I will be taking it to the Cat scale tomorrow to check axle weights. It was 840# difference between the camper axles running it that nose high. before dropping it
I really do not want to raise the trailer to make it perfectly level so if the weights look better and it is in range for the axle and wheels I will let it alone.
What I thought would happen if I go to a 5er. You can always raise the hitch/ball, but will make the nose of the 5er ride higher.
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I don't know. But I would think a 2 whl drive would.
Went to a RV delaer a few months back and they had a 2017 dually 4x4 on display there. It sit lower than my SRW did.
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I have a 2016 RAM 2500 Longhorn and tow a FR Cardinal 3250 with ease. I tow in the mountains often with no problem. The 3250 is actually just short of 35'.
I added air bags and generally add about 15# of air.
I love the truck and Cardinal. I don't have all of my weights handy but let me know if you want them and I'll look them up.
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I have a 2016 2500 6.4L ram and I just pick up a 2017 Denali 307RLS but mines is gas so my payload will be more than the diesel I guess that you are looking at clearance those.
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