6.2 or 6.7

[rabraz]

I've come to the conclusion that with the current HP n Torque produced by the new trucks from the big three it comes down to which model cranks your tractor. I mean who cares if this one can make it up the hill a second faster than the other. These new trucks are way beyond what was on the market years ago. When I was shopping, I drove all three comparably equipped and could have bought whichever I wanted. I found the ford suited my tastes better than the others. I've not been disappointed with my choice. Just my .02 worth.
The very best to all this camping season.

[Cajun Po-Boy]

Originally Posted by golfmedik

The problem may lie in the next camper you have. Lots of people are happy with the gasser, but it depends on how big of a 5er you want. Remember too, the 5er will have more wind resistance. I just bought a 6.7 on Friday but had a '10 6.4L for 3 years. It is nice to have the power to pull just about anything at highway speeds. That being said, consider at least an F350 SRW for your truck as the payload runs out quick with 5ers. Also, the price is only around $800 more than an F250 and gets the same mileage. Plus, whichever engine you decide on, you will have the payload capacity to carry it. Just my thoughts on the subject. But congrats on which ever truck you want!

X2...no matter what make u buy!

[dustman_stx]

I don't think anyone here would argue that the gas is the better choice if you take money out of the equation. IF you can afford the extra cost of the diesel up front and IF you can afford the extra maintenance and IF you can take the $10K+ HPFP failure hit(which IS a possibility and should be considered), then of course go with the diesel.

[mackman1994]

I went with the diesel and so far the cost of fuel and maintenance is about a wash. The payments are less on this Ford and so far it has been way cheaper to drive than the Dodge we traded in on it. I will never buy another gas truck for towing if I can't afford a diesel then I guess I don't need to tow.

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[Cajun Po-Boy]

Also...you don't have to buy new...for the same $40K plus for an new outfitted gasser, you can buy a great used diesel, at that point the initial purchase price difference is a wash ,)

[mackman1994]

This is very true po-boy good point.

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[dustman_stx]

Originally Posted by Cajun Po-Boy

Also...you don't have to buy new...for the same $40K plus for an new outfitted gasser, you can buy a great used diesel, at that point the initial purchase price difference is a wash ,)

But you aren't comparing apples to apples, there. I can buy the exact same used truck you speak of for $8K+ less if it's gas. There is always the initial up front cost difference. (Edit: I can buy a brand new F350 diesel for less than an F150 Platinum- doesn't mean a diesel truck is cheaper) The 6.7 I had was used and I got a GREAT deal on it. $24,850 for a 2011 w/ 60K, crew, CPO in excellent condition with all service records, 1 owner. It was an XL but had PL/PW, 5th wheel/gooseneck prep, camper package, etc. When I found out I'd lose 50% of my trucks value if the HPFP blew- even buying used at a great deal wouldn't work for me.

[mackman1994]

There is a chance that no matter what you buy you could have a catastrophic failure as anything can that is mechanical. I don't care what you have if you take out a tyranny or something major it's value drops nearly in half. After all who wants to buy something they can't drive.

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[dustman_stx]

Originally Posted by mackman1994

There is a chance that no matter what you buy you could have a catastrophic failure as anything can that is mechanical. I don't care what you have if you take out a tyranny or something major it's value drops nearly in half. After all who wants to buy something they can't drive.

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It is true that you can have a major mechanical failure with anything. Most of those aren't 20-25% of the NEW price of the vehicle, though. And the HPFP issue is there in addition to the possible big expenses you'd have with a gas vehicle. Could you imagine losing the tranny in a 6.7 Ford and a week later losing the HPFP? You likely just lost over $20K. The numbers I saw from Ford in a response to the NHTSA investigation indicated an ~ 5% failure rate on the HPFP by 4 year models out. And it was climbing exponentially from year to year. What's that failure rate going to look like in 10 years? When your 10 year old 6.7 with 150K should be still worth, say $15K, is it going to be almost worthless because potential buyers have to expect a huge repair bill at some point? Once again, if you've got money to spare, go for it. For me it just wasn't' feasible.

[mackman1994]

I have never bought any kind of vehicle expecting it to be a profitable transaction. If I always worried about the things they say could happen I would never own anything mechanical.

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[dustman_stx]

Originally Posted by mackman1994

I have never bought any kind of vehicle expecting it to be a profitable transaction. If I always worried about the things they say could happen I would never own anything mechanical.

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No need to justify to me. Just stating why I chose to go away from the 6.7. We each make the choices we feel are best for us and or families.

[pdoshier]

I went with a 6.2 because of the cost and we do a lot of 1-5 mile trips around the area. I read the diesels don't do well with a lot of short trips. Guess that's why I see them sitting idling all the time. I stopped by a farm store in my way home from work and when I came out a VW was parked beside me idling.

[mackman1994]

Short trips are fine as long as you pay attention to what your truck is telling you and take it for a drive when the computer tells you to drive to clean exhaust. This usually takes just 10 to 20 miles never has been a problem. My wife drives the 6.7 more than I do and most of her driving is short trips around town.

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[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by mackman1994

Short trips are fine as long as you pay attention to what your truck is telling you and take it for a drive when the computer tells you to drive to clean exhaust. This usually takes just 10 to 20 miles never has been a problem. My wife drives the 6.7 more than I do and most of her driving is short trips around town.

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Mine does not like the 6.4 I have, says it has to much horsepower!

She'd have a herd if I got the 2015 with 440 horsepower and 860 lb-ft of torque,

[mackman1994]

You gotta quit talking about that 2015. I might end up with one. Even though I don't think they needed the extra horses and torque. I want to test drive one now!!!!! My wife went from a 1500 hemi ram to this Ford. Took her awhile to get used to the 1 ton and long box.

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[Ford Idaho]

I know, I know.

Built one last night spec'd out like I want, the price was just under 56k....

One dealer not far from me has one on their lot as per their website.

ROAD TRIP!!!!

[mackman1994]

That's a good price. The 2012 I have now msrp was a little over 6.7 and I feel it has been worth every penny. Of course I didn't pay that for it and got a pretty good trade on the Dodge I traded in.

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[dustman_stx]

Originally Posted by pdoshier

I went with a 6.2 because of the cost and we do a lot of 1-5 mile trips around the area. I read the diesels don't do well with a lot of short trips. Guess that's why I see them sitting idling all the time. I stopped by a farm store in my way home from work and when I came out a VW was parked beside me idling.

I was in the same boat- the majority of my driving is trips of less than 5 miles and the engine would never reach full operating temp. The 6.7 I had would regen much more often when doing the short trips. I seem to recall reading something about moisture buildup when regularly running them without reaching operating temp as well.

[mackman1994]

Originally Posted by dustman_stx

I was in the same boat- the majority of my driving is trips of less than 5 miles and the engine would never reach full operating temp. The 6.7 I had would regen much more often when doing the short trips. I seem to recall reading something about moisture buildup when regularly running them without reaching operating temp as well.

Yeah any diesel will gain moisture in the fuel tank with a lot of sitting and short trips. Especially if the tank is less than half full. This is why you drain the water separater as directed.

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[dustman_stx]

Another thought- If I were to buy a new diesel, I think I'd pay to have all of the service done at a dealership so that I had documented proof all service was done at prescribed times. With the elaborate costs associated with repairs, I wouldn't want a manufacturer to have any excuse to deny warranty coverage.