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04-28-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LaydBack
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Would you mind posting how the instal goes on the Air Lift 57396 goes as I have heard horror stories about it.
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04-28-2013, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Campingnut
Would you mind posting how the instal goes on the Air Lift 57396 goes as I have heard horror stories about it.
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Will do. I've heard of some people having to do a bit of grinding, but nothing major. It seems you can't go wrong with either brand (Firestone or Air Lift), but I couldn't pass on the $100 in rebate from Air Lift.
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04-28-2013, 10:13 AM
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Thanks. As of right now I would save $125 on the air bags alone over the Firestone's. Just wondering if the $100 savings would be worth my aggravation.
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04-28-2013, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Campingnut
Thanks. As of right now I would save $125 on the air bags alone over the Firestone's. Just wondering if the $100 savings would be worth my aggravation.
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I have attached the instructions and from what I can see, it seems like a pretty straightforward installation. The only drilling I see is if you have an aftermarket fifth wheel hitch, you may have to drill the side plate, and if you are not using onboard air, you will have to drill for the fill valves. If I'm interpreting the application guide correctly, it's saying that this is a no-drilling kit. I think they made some changes at the end of 2011 that may have addressed the bit of grinding issue.
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04-28-2013, 11:26 AM
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No drilling for the filler if you take out the license plate screw and put in place the fill valve, that's what I did, if my compressor craps out I can still fill the bags
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05-02-2013, 05:52 AM
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I am having a PullRite 5th hitch installed on a RAM 2500 2012. They say it will not go on with my AirLift installed. I put them in and they were easy to do. I have not seen the frame mount pieces for the 5th but I assume they come over the frame, drop down and will interfere with the top of the AirLift mount (which takes the place of the bump stop but sticks out about 3" from the frame). So as of now they will remove the AirLift, install the hitch then I will pick the truck, remove the hitch saddle pieces and remove enough of the excess hitch saddle to fit the AirLift. I am sure it will not be affecting the hitch strength as it is only a small amount of material and has nothing to do with the bolt hole area where all the strength of the hitch is on the frame. Anyone else have this problem?
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05-03-2013, 10:45 PM
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I have a 2012 F250 4x4 6.7L diesel and have been having a hard time confirming an air bag fit for my truck.
The issue is the "5th wheel prep package" from Ford which is a factory-installed under bed rail system that accepts a factory hitch or Reese Elite series hitch.
I've heard that Air Lift won't fit and there's mixed opinions about Firestones. I do want air bags so I can adjust the height and ride quality, etc.
Has anybody installed bags on a late model super duty with the factory "5th wheel prep package"?
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05-04-2013, 11:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VenturaBill
I have a 2012 F250 4x4 6.7L diesel and have been having a hard time confirming an air bag fit for my truck.
The issue is the "5th wheel prep package" from Ford which is a factory-installed under bed rail system that accepts a factory hitch or Reese Elite series hitch.
I've heard that Air Lift won't fit and there's mixed opinions about Firestones. I do want air bags so I can adjust the height and ride quality, etc.
Has anybody installed bags on a late model super duty with the factory "5th wheel prep package"?
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Go over to the FTE site 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums There are lots of guys running air bags on their rigs. Not sure what you mean about the Firestone's 'mixed opinion' though. I have a '10 F350 DRW with a B&W under bed hitch and everything went in without a problem. The air bags with the on board air is the best mod I've done to the dually.
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05-04-2013, 11:02 PM
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Thanks - I'll check the FTE forum next.
By "mixed opinion" I meant that some say they will fit and others say they won't. I contacted Firestone via website/customer support with the same question and have never received a reply...
So now I'm getting more serious about it.
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05-06-2013, 10:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Campingnut
Would you mind posting how the instal goes on the Air Lift 57396 goes as I have heard horror stories about it.
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Install was a breeze....very straightforward. Other than drilling the 2 bottom license plate holes for the air fittings, the only hole I had to drill was the one I mentioned in the side plate of the B&W. In fact, I didn't jack the truck up or anything. I don't see where the Air Lift brand would have any fit issues on the F250/F350. I mounted everything to bottom of bed crossmembers. I'd say go for them.
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05-06-2013, 10:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VenturaBill
I have a 2012 F250 4x4 6.7L diesel and have been having a hard time confirming an air bag fit for my truck.
The issue is the "5th wheel prep package" from Ford which is a factory-installed under bed rail system that accepts a factory hitch or Reese Elite series hitch.
I've heard that Air Lift won't fit and there's mixed opinions about Firestones. I do want air bags so I can adjust the height and ride quality, etc.
Has anybody installed bags on a late model super duty with the factory "5th wheel prep package"?
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I have the Firestone's on my 450 with the under-bed factory hitch and it worked just fine. I just had to get 1 shorter 7/8" bolt (1" instead of 1 1/2" that came with the kit) because it hit the hitch mount. Other than that all went well. They do have them just for the 11's and up with the factory hitch!
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05-07-2013, 09:53 AM
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Thanks for the input. I called Firestone this morning and the tech seemed very confident that they would fit with the "5th wheel prep package".
He said the #2535 kit would be the one for my vehicle. I'll go ahead and order them, any deals going on that I should know about?
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05-07-2013, 10:38 AM
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Check SDtrucksprings.com , as well as Truckaddons.com and Jegs.com are the ones that had the best deals when I bougth mine.
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05-07-2013, 12:34 PM
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Is it normal for the compressor to jog 2-3 seconds when you start the truck? I don't know that it does it every time and one time it might have actually exhausted some air on startup.
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05-07-2013, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LaydBack
Is it normal for the compressor to jog 2-3 seconds when you start the truck? I don't know that it does it every time and one time it might have actually exhausted some air on startup.
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do you have the low pressure sensor? if yes then you have a leak. if not then I dont know because mine does not do that when the bags have 5psi or better in them
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05-07-2013, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaydBack
Install was a breeze....very straightforward. Other than drilling the 2 bottom license plate holes for the air fittings, the only hole I had to drill was the one I mentioned in the side plate of the B&W. In fact, I didn't jack the truck up or anything. I don't see where the Air Lift brand would have any fit issues on the F250/F350. I mounted everything to bottom of bed crossmembers. I'd say go for them.
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Thanks for the quick review. Mine are sitting on the floor in the garage I guess I should open the box now and put them on the truck.
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05-07-2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by golfmedik
Check SDtrucksprings.com , as well as Truckaddons.com and Jegs.com are the ones that had the best deals when I bougth mine.
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Thanks for the suggestions... I looked at those vendors and they were all around $375. I guess I checked Amazon on a good day, I got the 2535 kit for $305 on Prime, free shipping.
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05-07-2013, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Campingnut
Thanks for the quick review. Mine are sitting on the floor in the garage I guess I should open the box now and put them on the truck.
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Nothing hard about it. The instructions are spot on. In fact, you'd be better off to do the steps to assemble the bags before you even go out to the truck. I found my upfitter switch wires with no problem. I bought the black loom to put over the wires and poked thru the firewall with a single cable on the driver side behind the fuse box under the hood. There's only one wire to get inside the truck. I'll try to post pics later when I get home.
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05-07-2013, 02:20 PM
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do you have the low pressure sensor? if yes then you have a leak. if not then I dont know because mine does not do that when the bags have 5psi or better in them
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I'm sure the manifold monitrs constantly, and I'm pretty sure I heard it exhaust air while I was driving. I didn't see my screen icon for a leak come on, and I can't say it's all the time, I just finished install yesterday. I will leak check connections when I get home.
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