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Old 01-18-2020, 03:02 PM   #1
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So I'm brand new to towing anything and just have some ?s. I currently own a 2014 Chevy Traverse w/ factory tow package. The wife and I are looking at getting either a wolf pup 16BHS or a Forest River Pop Up camper. Ive done my research and its seems like all the #s make this trailer an ok fit as far as GVWR, Length for wheelbase, tongue weight. Now my ?s are, Is there anything else I should take into consideration? Is a pop up camper a better option for the Traverse? Is a WDH and a break controller a must have? Any pointer, tips, or advice is greatly appreciated and Thank you in advance for any help.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:13 PM   #2
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The problem with the Wolf Pup is going to be frontal area. You're hauling a 7-8' wall down the interstate and that's going to out a strain on a Traverse.

If it were me, I'd stick to the Pop-up and a WDH and brake controller would be mandatory.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:17 PM   #3
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If your Traverse has the 5200lbs towing capacity, then the Wolf Pup looks doable.
Of course you'll need WDH and a brake controller.
If you go with a popup, needing a WDH and brake controller depends on which popup.
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Where do you plan on traveling flat lands or mountains
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:51 PM   #5
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"Factory tow package" RPO code VR2 on a Traverse includes "heavy duty cooling" and a trailer hitch.
Sure you can tow 5200lbs but what is the payload?
(look at the yellow sticker on your drivers door jamb)
Your 16BHS will weigh 4000lb when filled with water, propane, batteries and supplies.
Your tongue will weigh around 500lbs.
What do you, passengers and cargo weigh in the Traverse?
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377 lb.
GVWR:
TBD
UVW
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:56 PM   #6
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Welcome from SoCal! I agree with the above but would be inclined to go with the popup given the Traverse.
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I have a 2008 Ford Explorer and I chose the Wolf Pup BHS16 based on all towing specs. The frontal area was about 5-10% over Ford recommendations. Definitely underpowered for the load on hills even though TV tow rated at 5225#, TT was 3600#(GTWR 3877#), tongue weight 473#. A WDH was a must, and a good brake controller. Towed better at maximum TV tire pressure. Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) on the TV and TT were exceeded on first CAT Scale weighing, had to pare down loads in both.
Bought an F150. No probs in any area towing the BHS16.
I've posted a bunch data on the above. PM for any more BHS16 towed by an Explorer size TV info.
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Old 01-18-2020, 08:13 PM   #8
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Not a a wolf pup, but I recently purchased a Geo Pro 16BH. Max weight is about 4k lbs and I'm towing with my 2006 Chevy Trailblazer 4.2L I6 (5700lb tow rating). It is a truck chassis and handled it well except for gas mileage. Our trip home with it in October, from Ohio to NY, averaged 6.5mpg, which I'm sure would have been better if I had the V8 in my truck.

With 2 30lb propane tanks and 2 batteries (no water), my tongue weighed 620lbs. I went with the Andersen WDH, which really allowed me to dial in how I want the truck to sit. My TV pulls it ok, but I know I'm trailering. I haven't taken and family trips yet, so I can't comment on the truck/trailer pulling fully loaded. According to the scale, combined weight (again, without water, generator w/extra propane, passengers, or luggage) was 8860lbs; truck alone without passengers ~5300lbs and trailer 3500lbs).

Would I attempt to trailer it with a Traverse (owned a 2014 & 2017), no. Although my Trailblazer handles it, I will be upgrading to a Silverado in a few years.Click image for larger version

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Old 01-18-2020, 10:35 PM   #9
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Thank you all for the responses. At the RV show today I looked at the 16bhs and its said the GVWR is just under 3900#. Being our first time towing anything I dont wanna get in over my head so I think a Pop up will be the way to go. Looking at the 2716F or the 2514F. Even if not totally necessary for a pop up I think I'm still going to get a WDH and Break controller if it makes sense to do so.
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Thank you all for the responses. At the RV show today I looked at the 16bhs and its said the GVWR is just under 3900#. Being our first time towing anything I dont wanna get in over my head so I think a Pop up will be the way to go. Looking at the 2716F or the 2514F. Even if not totally necessary for a pop up I think I'm still going to get a WDH and Break controller if it makes sense to do so.
Reese makes a smaller 600/6000lbs WDH that is popular with popup owners.

https://www.reese-hitches.com/produc..._600_lbs,31995
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I think you're making a wise choice. You will love the lower profile of the popup versus towing the wall behind your Traverse. Many of us started with popup trailers and there are days I miss the simplicity of it, although my old shoulders, knee's and back don't miss the cranking ;-)

Definitely make sure you have th right hitch and brake controller and happy camping!
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Thank you all for the responses. At the RV show today I looked at the 16bhs and its said the GVWR is just under 3900#. Being our first time towing anything I dont wanna get in over my head so I think a Pop up will be the way to go. Looking at the 2716F or the 2514F. Even if not totally necessary for a pop up I think I'm still going to get a WDH and Break controller if it makes sense to do so.
That 2716F looks nice.

I think you're making a wise choice.

We owned several pop-ups over a 15 yr period. Served our family well. I now have a 33' monster and sometimes miss the pop-up.
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I think a popup is a wise choice. You'll have great fun in it and it will be so much easier to tow; especially if you are going any longer distances.
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:05 PM   #14
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Max payload for the Traverse is 1633 and gvwr of the Traverse is 6411( idk if this matters). Is there a TT our there that has a double bunk and queen size bed that would be better suited for the Traverse? I know that a pop up is a better option but I'm just trying to get something with more longevity for our family. Idk if there is a better fit #s wise than the 16bhs. Is there anything I can do to the Traverse as far as rear suspension or anything that would make it more suitable to tow the 16bhs?
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A decent WDH with built in anti sway feature is a must using a mid or small size SUV for towing. Makes the whole towing rig feel a lot like one long unit, no porpoising vs. an attachment flopping around behind. I'm sure you could tow a unit like the BHS16 adaquately, just not the comfortably. I.e., the towing is more work, more demanding of your concentration.
Add on towing mirrors were a must for me with the Explorer. McKesh mirrors were the ones I used. Clamped on the doors and stuck out completely past the factory door mirrors.
My neighbor that has 5 kids (blended family) first got a hybrid. Consider those. Lighter weight, the beds are flop out tents for more floor space.
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The problem with the Wolf Pup is going to be frontal area. You're hauling a 7-8' wall down the interstate and that's going to out a strain on a Traverse.

If it were me, I'd stick to the Pop-up and a WDH and brake controller would be mandatory.

So is there a magic formula for frontal area? Camper is 8' wide 7.5' tall my math gives me 60 sq. ft., plus add rooftop stuff, axles and wheels and your over 60 sq ft. Ford's 2019 towing guide says not to go more than 60sq ft if you use an F350 or F450. ?? any ideas??
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:41 PM   #17
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47.8 Sq. Ft. Wolf Pup 16BHS frontal area. Basic height x width of main box. That's all I consider. You can ballpark any extras in the wind stream if you think they make much difference. I look at the billboard size, not the frame holding it up
2008 Ford Explorer V6 max recommended frontal area 40 Sq. Ft.
2019 F150 V8 max recommended frontal area 60 Sq. Ft.
2019 F250/350 max recommended frontal area 60 Sq. Ft., 5th wheel or gooseneck 75 Sq. Ft.
Wow. NO frontal area towing listing for the Traverse, not even on the Traverse message board! Just wasted 15 minutes on a search.
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Hello all,
So I'm brand new to towing anything and just have some ?s. I currently own a 2014 Chevy Traverse w/ factory tow package. The wife and I are looking at getting either a wolf pup 16BHS or a Forest River Pop Up camper. Ive done my research and its seems like all the #s make this trailer an ok fit as far as GVWR, Length for wheelbase, tongue weight. Now my ?s are, Is there anything else I should take into consideration? Is a pop up camper a better option for the Traverse? Is a WDH and a break controller a must have? Any pointer, tips, or advice is greatly appreciated and Thank you in advance for any help.
We loved our pop ups, had 3 starcrafts. They pulled a nice and offered quite a bit of room.
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We pulled a 2000# pop-up with a Chevy S10 Blazer and loved camping. We decided to upgraded to a 3850# Palamino Gazelle ultralite that was "within specs" weight wise for the Blazer. After one too many white knuckle trips and having to replace parts on the tow vehicle because it was being overworked, we purchased a full size conversion van just for towing the TT. The difference was night and day. It made me realize how lucky I had been not getting in an accident while pulling the TT with the Blazer.

Just our experience for v what it's worth....
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Is looking around and trying to rent a 16bhs for a weekend a good idea? I plan on buying a WDH and Brake controller no matter what we go with so if I get those and try to rent and tow one for a weekend to see how the Traverse handles it I think that would help make up my mind about a TT or PopUp. Any opinions on this?
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