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02-01-2020, 11:45 AM
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Any real world owners of new Chevy "invisible trailer" option?
I'm simply idly curious. Does anyone have one of the new Chevy/GMC's with the camera options that I guess is called "Invisible trailer"?? Just curious how well it works.
Not going to buy one. Well, I might, but only after my current dually is paid for in 2086.
Being a GMC guy, I'm hoping this is a better thought-out option than that atrocious tail gate thingy.
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02-01-2020, 03:58 PM
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Yeah yeah me too.
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02-02-2020, 02:17 PM
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I have read on another forum that the Chevy/GMC invisible trailer option does not work with 5th wheel trailers. I do not know for sure but this is what the poster has reported.
Just saying!
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02-03-2020, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim34RL
I have read on another forum that the Chevy/GMC invisible trailer option does not work with 5th wheel trailers. I do not know for sure but this is what the poster has reported.
Just saying!
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I've read that as well. I can't imagine why it wouldn't, but that's what they say.
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02-03-2020, 01:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
I'm simply idly curious. Does anyone have one of the new Chevy/GMC's with the camera options that I guess is called "Invisible trailer"?? Just curious how well it works.
Not going to buy one. Well, I might, but only after my current dually is paid for in 2086.
Being a GMC guy, I'm hoping this is a better thought-out option than that atrocious tail gate thingy.
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My idle curiosity has me wondering what is wrong with the Chevrolet/GMC tailgate.
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02-03-2020, 01:49 PM
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I read it works in conjunction with a Rearview camera mounted on the trailer. No camera on trailer and no picture. And then a little photoshop magic. Stormy
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02-03-2020, 02:05 PM
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What I REALLY wonder how it works are the cars that let you see your own car as though a drone is flying above you. How do they do that???
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02-03-2020, 02:05 PM
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Location: Texas
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GMC camera
Correct, does not work w/ 5 th wheels due to height. Sounds good on paper. Ford advertises "7 camera System", what they do not tell you is that 7 th. camera is a $900 addition and has a electrical cord the size of a garden hose to route to the back of the trailer. Also, if you have a tool box it blocks the view to see your 5 th wheel. I have it on my truck.
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02-03-2020, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MOODMAN
What I REALLY wonder how it works are the cars that let you see your own car as though a drone is flying above you. How do they do that???
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02-03-2020, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MOODMAN
What I REALLY wonder how it works are the cars that let you see your own car as though a drone is flying above you. How do they do that???
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Behind and above or directly above?
Directly above I have. For ford there are 4 cameras. One in each side mirror, one in the grill and the backup camera. They are wide angle 360 cameras. We sell cameras that can do near complete sphere views with 2 cameras you are only missing the bottom. Ford just cuts the screen on 4 cameras. BMW uses 3 higher res cameras and stitches them together. The rear camera and one at each corner of the front bumper. Acura also uses 4 but when you open the door the picture is messed up. Toyota has a really cool feature where you can peer through the door prospective using the side 360 camera. Teslas have cameras in the pilar between the windows and front and back. The car image itself is just a stock image.
You can see some of the artifacting from the lens when you use these features because of extreme angles. For example when steering around tall cones I cannot see them other than the base on the corners.
Behind and above I cannot say other than a virtually created image in software and I really have not seen outside video games.
I see the invisible trailer camera commercial and understand why the software may not work with a 5th wheel because when turning the geometry is different than a TT and it may be harder to determine because pivot points change for 5ers compared to bumper hitches. Have this issue with my propride and fords backup assist feature...it gets it wrong.
Does the invisible trailer work with a specific camera or any trailer camera?
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02-03-2020, 03:01 PM
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My question is why do you even need a view behind your trailer as you travel down the highway or when your backing the trailer up. The are millions of trucks on the highway that only have the two large side mirrors and if a trucker can back his rig without a camera, so can I. I back our 32 ft. 5th wheel trailer into the shed that is only 12 ft. wide using only trucks side mirrors and I have to do this from a 90 degree angle. You fellows need to put your big boy pants on and learn how to back your rig.
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02-03-2020, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walholler
My question is why do you even need a view behind your trailer as you travel down the highway or when your backing the trailer up. The are millions of trucks on the highway that only have the two large side mirrors and if a trucker can back his rig without a camera, so can I. I back our 32 ft. 5th wheel trailer into the shed that is only 12 ft. wide using only trucks side mirrors and I have to do this from a 90 degree angle. You fellows need to put your big boy pants on and learn how to back your rig.
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Really?
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02-03-2020, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walholler
My question is why do you even need a view behind your trailer as you travel down the highway or when your backing the trailer up. The are millions of trucks on the highway that only have the two large side mirrors and if a trucker can back his rig without a camera, so can I. I back our 32 ft. 5th wheel trailer into the shed that is only 12 ft. wide using only trucks side mirrors and I have to do this from a 90 degree angle. You fellows need to put your big boy pants on and learn how to back your rig.
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Need it, not really. Extra peace of mind especially when backing where vehicles or people may be moving around behind you. Once you start your turn you have a very large bling spot.
The straight trucks seem to have cameras on most of them around here. Tractor trailers are a little more complicated as they would need an industry wide standard, also tractor trailers typically back up in more controlled environments, truck terminals, factories etc.
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02-03-2020, 04:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walholler
My question is why do you even need a view behind your trailer as you travel down the highway or when your backing the trailer up. The are millions of trucks on the highway that only have the two large side mirrors and if a trucker can back his rig without a camera, so can I. I back our 32 ft. 5th wheel trailer into the shed that is only 12 ft. wide using only trucks side mirrors and I have to do this from a 90 degree angle. You fellows need to put your big boy pants on and learn how to back your rig.
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Driving requires focus and continuous information gathering. I don't need that camera for backing or driving but it is one more piece of information that will help you make a good, planned decision. A personal goal of mine is to not make any move on the road that interferes with anything (anyone) around me. I can see how some folks don't want one...but I don't drive like the narcissistic wieners all around me.
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02-03-2020, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
I'm simply idly curious. Does anyone have one of the new Chevy/GMC's with the camera options that I guess is called "Invisible trailer"?? Just curious how well it works.
Not going to buy one. Well, I might, but only after my current dually is paid for in 2086.
Being a GMC guy, I'm hoping this is a better thought-out option than that atrocious tail gate thingy.
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At least on the 2019s it was not available with the 'surround vision' package. Therefore not an option for me.
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02-03-2020, 05:31 PM
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Location: Louisiana
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Range is advertised at 35 feet. Not sure if that is from the tailgate or cab. Hopefully they will come out with a booster.
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02-03-2020, 05:40 PM
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Sounds like a bust gimmick to me.
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02-03-2020, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sfsgm
My idle curiosity has me wondering what is wrong with the Chevrolet/GMC tailgate.
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I love my tailgate thingy.
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02-03-2020, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sfsgm
My idle curiosity has me wondering what is wrong with the Chevrolet/GMC tailgate.
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Because any truck I own, and I own three, has to have a hitch with 2" ball in the receiver. If you have a hitch in the receiver, then the tailgate will NOT lower all the way. You'd have to take the hitch and ball out first.
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02-03-2020, 07:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
Because any truck I own, and I own three, has to have a hitch with 2" ball in the receiver. If you have a hitch in the receiver, then the tailgate will NOT lower all the way. You'd have to take the hitch and ball out first.
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I have a 2003 F150 with a 2 5/8 ball in the receiver & the tailgate lowers just fine. What am I missing?
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