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Old 04-02-2019, 08:30 AM   #1
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Best 1/2 ton tow vehicles for 2019...no diesels

1/2 ton gassers Ford Chevy and Ram
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Old 04-02-2019, 09:12 AM   #2
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Funny video . seems most points gained or lost was on mirrors and interiors which are not important to towing . the eco seemed and of course expected the best torque for towing [twin turbos ]. The ram the least and it also seemed to run at much higher rpms . At least they went up the east route which is the steepest side of the tunnel . if they scored it on engine performance Ram is still bottom of the barrel . takes a lot more then gadgets to make a good tow vehicle . seems ford and chevy are neck and neck
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Funny video . seems most points gained or lost was on mirrors and interiors which are not important to towing . the eco seemed and of course expected the best torque for towing [twin turbos ]. The ram the least and it also seemed to run at much higher rpms . At least they went up the east route which is the steepest side of the tunnel . if they scored it on engine performance Ram is still bottom of the barrel . takes a lot more then gadgets to make a good tow vehicle . seems form and chevy are neck and neck
Towing is not all about power either. I had a 14 ram hemi/8spd that was very good for towing. routinely 8-9K lbs (car trailer not camper) and it hauled much better than the comparable ecoboost I had been using. Yes the hemi does like higher RPM, its all about keeping the engine in peak power
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Towing is not all about power either.
Another thing is engine brake power is an important part of towing.
While the 3.5eco have nice low RPM torque, going downhill it doesn't have good engine brake power.
I tow a 9000lbs camper with the Coyote V8 and while going up it can keep revs. at 3500rpm for some time, which for some may be annoying, going downhill the engine/transmission can hold the speed by itself most of the times, including on the Smoky mountains....
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Towing is not all about power either. I had a 14 ram hemi/8spd that was very good for towing. routinely 8-9K lbs (car trailer not camper) and it hauled much better than the comparable ecoboost I had been using. Yes the hemi does like higher RPM, its all about keeping the engine in peak power
My 2013 Ecoboost actually pulled better than my 2016 ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. Didnt handle the load as well though!
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Another thing is engine brake power is an important part of towing.
While the 3.5eco have nice low RPM torque, going downhill it doesn't have good engine brake power.
I tow a 9000lbs camper with the Coyote V8 and while going up it can keep revs. at 3500rpm for some time, which for some may be annoying, going downhill the engine/transmission can hold the speed by itself most of the times, including on the Smoky mountains....
Seems they rated the downhill on all 3 about the same required braking 10 times to keep between 50 low and 60 max .
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it is also of note that all 3 of those trucks are rated higher in terms of towing capacity than my current dodge 3500 (if it were stock)

All 3 also have significantly better brakes. Stereos, creature comforts etc.
The best tow rig from 1990 doesn't even hold a candle to current 1500s stock for stock
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We all have an opinion as to which is the best tow vehicle and it's usually whatever we have parked in our driveway.
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We all have an opinion as to which is the best tow vehicle and it's usually whatever we have parked in our driveway.
Pretty much same here. FWIW, I've been using the same tow vehicle for going on 15 years now. What makes it stand out from all the rest? IT'S PAID FOR and does a wonderful job.
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Seems they rated the downhill on all 3 about the same required braking 10 times to keep between 50 low and 60 max .
There is a former video where the 3.5 had twice the break applications that the V8 got....
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While I'm partial to V8's (currently have a 2015 Ford 5.0L) I wouldn't touch a 2018/2019 Ford 5.0 Coyote as there are systemic oil consumption issues. I've read numerous reports that the plasma transfer wire arc cyclinder liners (used in 2018+ model years) are to blame.
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Somehow I doubt that any 1/2-ton brakes would stop anything as well as the 4-wheel disc brakes on my 2500HD.
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If I wanted a Grocery getter and a semi-station wagon than I might consider one of them. But I want a tow vehicle so, it will be a diesel engine vehicle that has a Cummins in the truck. It could have been a Cat but they do not sell on highway engines anymore.
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The thread title is misleading, that video is only talking about 1/2-ton trucks and not all trucks.

The only 1/2-ton truck available new with a diesel today is the Ford F-150 and the 3.0 PSD is not the engine to get the highest tow ratings.

Ram 1500? No EcoDiesel yet
GM 1500? No 3.0 Duramax yet
Nissan Titan XD? Not a 1/2-ton truck

Would be nice if someone could update the thread title to be a but more honest and less misleading.
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The thread title is misleading, that video is only talking about 1/2-ton trucks and not all trucks.

The only 1/2-ton truck available new with a diesel today is the Ford F-150 and the 3.0 PSD is not the engine to get the highest tow ratings.

Ram 1500? No EcoDiesel yet
GM 1500? No 3.0 Duramax yet
Nissan Titan XD? Not a 1/2-ton truck

Would be nice if someone could update the thread title to be a but more honest and less misleading.
I took the title of the topic thread as meaning that the OP is only interested in hearing about gas trucks...

Of course, we know that conversation can never happen here!
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I took the title of the topic thread as meaning that the OP is only interested in hearing about gas trucks...

Of course, we know that conversation can never happen here!
I don't see a question anywhere in the OP, just the sharing of the video (which in the comment they do specify 1/2-ton). I took the subject to mean "Look at the best trucks for towing, none of them are diesels."
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I edited the title and included "1/2 ton" in it, for clarification.
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Somehow I doubt that any 1/2-ton brakes would stop anything as well as the 4-wheel disc brakes on my 2500HD.
seems all the new 1/2 tons have 4 wheel disk brakes . i know chevy and ford does
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Somehow I doubt that any 1/2-ton brakes would stop anything as well as the 4-wheel disc brakes on my 2500HD.
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seems all the new 1/2 tons have 4 wheel disk brakes . i know chevy and ford does
Heck, my midsize truck has 4-wheel disk brakes AND 4-piston calipers up front. How many trucks come with 4-piston calipers?
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Heck, my midsize truck has 4-wheel disk brakes AND 4-piston calipers up front. How many trucks come with 4-piston calipers?
Yes , but you can always get a brake up-grade kit as high as 8 piston calipers . . I'm fine with my chevy 2500 brakes though and no 1/2 ton in my future but others could look into it . heck they up grade trailer drum brakes to disk why not their trucks .
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