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Old 07-25-2015, 05:38 PM   #1
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Best tow vehicle for the 2016 371REBH

Hello! We are a new full timing family of 5 that has a 2016 Sandpiper 371REBH. The GVWR is 15,500. We haven't purchased our tow vehicle yet and we want to know what would be the absolute best and safest to tow our rig with. We need the crew cab and the long bed. Used would be better since we want to keep our payments down, but we aren't opposed to new if it's significantly better. We are located in Oregon so we need something that can handle the mountains on the west coast. We have no preferences towards any brand, we just want what's best for our situation. Any advice, tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. And if you need any more info then feel free to ask. Thank you so much!
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For the weight of the trailer plus the stuff that five people would require I would go with a F450 or a Dodge or Chevy 4500.

But that is just MHO.
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Old 07-25-2015, 05:58 PM   #3
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Boy oh boy wait until you see the posts about this... LOL truck wars, here we come

For us it was a Dodge 3500 Dually Diesel - the 2016 builds have the largest cargo carrying capacity in class (and as a family of 5 you will need that!!) and it will pull your Sandpiper with NO problem (it can pull 29K lbs!) The dual rear wheels will give you the stability you need and want. The 2016 models have a higher cargo and tow capacities than Ford F450s

4x4? Maybe. You can carry a few hundred LBS more without the 4x4 but when you need a 4x4 you really REALLY need a 4x4 so for us that was a no brainer.

I would steer away from the megacab (all it gives you is reclining rear seats) because you loose a LOT of bed space - but YMMV what with 3 kids in the back seat!

Consider putting a "Fuelbox" (combo aux tank+toolbox) in the bed and you will be good to go to find your best price for diesel!

Oh, and the 2016 - which is just now being released is indeed significantly better than the 2015 builds!

Good Luck and PLEASE keep us all posted on your adventure - sounds wonderful!!
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I'd go with the Chevy duramax and crew cab with long box 2 wheel drive. Rated at GCWR of 30,500 and tt of 22900. It has 34 gal tank. Later RJD Later RJD
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:03 PM   #5
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I pull a 2014 Sandpiper 365SAQ that dry weighs 13k and full weighs about 15,500. I live in Washington State so I know what you mean about mountain passes. Also have a large bike rack and Honda 3000 generator hanging on the back of the trailer

I started with a 2007 Chevy Classic Duramax crew cab shortbox 2500. It pulled fine, but was not the most fun going down mountain passes. Had airbags on it. Pulled the trailer all the way home from Ohio with this truck so it has seen some miles. Still have the truck, but it is my farm truck now.

Bought a new 2015 Chevy Duramax crew cab short box 2500 with airbags also. Huge difference with the exhaust brake for going down long grades. At times on I 90 in WA, ID, and Montana I actually had to accelerate on the downhill. Short or long box 2015 have the sake 34 gallon tank also so that is nice.

I don't have a dually and don't think you need it, but I might be the minority. My wife and I also have 4 kids and we all load up in the pickup and go. Most 2500 and 3500 have the same 5th wheel trailer capacity. Make sure it has an exhaust brake and buy what is in your budget. My trucks are both farm trucks, so I have no use for a dually
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Thank you all so very much for your advice! It is greatly appreciated and has given us more to think about and noodle on . I'll definitely make sure to keep you updated on what we get. Thanks again!
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We have the black sheep of the Ford F-250s with the 6.0 diesel But even at that the truck is an invincible tank. WE pass the big trucks on the big grades, So for sure you want a Diesel and after all the years that I drove a diesel car and Diesel cost more, NOW IT IS MUCH CHEAPER THAN GAS. Look at the specs on F-350 because the Jump to the F-450 is likely pricey. The duelly makes for a more stable platform. Just new or used be sure to look at rated load capacity and make sure you have plenty to spare. Remember the people in the cab and all the personal crap adds weight too.
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I won't suggest any particular thing, other than what ever you THINK you need, step up to the next model for capacity to be happy.
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Old 07-26-2015, 02:47 PM   #9
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I won't suggest any particular thing, other than what ever you THINK you need, step up to the next model for capacity to be happy.
What Mark said.......
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Hello! We are a new full timing family of 5 that has a 2016 Sandpiper 371REBH. The GVWR is 15,500. We haven't purchased our tow vehicle yet and we want to know what would be the absolute best and safest to tow our rig with. We need the crew cab and the long bed. Used would be better since we want to keep our payments down, but we aren't opposed to new if it's significantly better. We are located in Oregon so we need something that can handle the mountains on the west coast. We have no preferences towards any brand, we just want what's best for our situation. Any advice, tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. And if you need any more info then feel free to ask. Thank you so much!
Getting dwn to the brass tacks...The Dodge would fit the bill if it had a better than stone sled suspension and stone age engine ....Stay away from the chevies n GMC's no powere , no milege no suspension....So that leaves you with 450 hp (youd swear it was more) 900 ftlbs O torque...Agreat Tow Haul paddle shifted F350 dually or F450 Dually Ford ....Ive had them all and Ford is your best current investment for doin the work safely, in comfort, reliability , mileage , affordability and power !
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Drive a Ford F-350 diesel at work and I would never purchase one. Just recently test drove them all. I purchased a3500 GMC Duramax. The acceleration on the Duramax was just far superior. I was leaning towards the Dodge Based on pricing, but it seamed very outdated for a brand new truck. Plus it's ugly and I don't want to give Fiat my money.


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I have a question. When do axel limits and tire ratings rein in the horsepower race. l'm planning to tour the west. It seems that a gas 2500 HD would be useless. Any consensus on that.
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:51 PM   #13
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With the weight of your rig I would for sure go diesel. I have my own likes but to be honest all big three make great trucks, drive them all and pick your favorite. Pay close attention to tow ratings as that is what you should be most concerned with. Enjoy the fun of shopping.
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pontiacdan45: Depending on your travels out west and then what you do when you return is the question. If your 2500 is working for you now then For the trip west you may encounter some small issues with towing but is it worth the money to up grade. No. Can you justify the extra expense of a diesel? I'd say no. That's where all my decisions were made. Later RJD
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I just logged over 2,000 on my Ford F350 Diesel after trading in my Chevy 2500hd Diesel that I towed with for about 7,000 miles. I really like the F350 and it was upgraded for me. The Chevy locked out 6th gear in the tow haul mode which increased the RPMs and cab noise level plus the cab had lot wind/road noise in the cab. Ford is much less noise empty or towing. The Chevy would shift into forth a lot and the Ford rarely leaves 6th gear and I think it only shifted into 4 a couple of times in Colorado – I guess that to be expended since the Ford has higher HP and Torque ratings. I think Chevy has a better ride than the Ford (I know comparing 3500 – 2500) – even the 3500 Chevy I test drove I think rode road better than my F350. I really like the power folding and extending mirrors, and number pad on the door. The fast heater options will blow hot air out the heater vents before I can back it out of the garage. 2015 Ford reviews rate the F350 as the fastest 0-60 times for any HD diesel truck.

Mine is Single Rear Wheel which limits me to lighter 5er than the OP wants but I thinks any of big three DRW will work for you. Drive them all in both tow haul and with exhaust brake and be sure to drive them at highway speeds and buy the one you like best. Probably if RAM had one that would fit in my garage I would be driving RAM since I have never owned one before.
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I agree with that weight a diesel with a exhaust brake will perform best. We have a ram 3500 4x4 mega cab but you really need to check them all out and buy the one you like. With the short bed we have a pull rite slider hitch. I think the extra cost for a diesel is definitely worth the money.
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Definitely go with a crew cab dually with a diesel engine. You will want an exhaust brake as they make a huge difference coming down the mountain passes. I have the chevy 3500 duramax SRW and it handles my 12300 lb fiver no issues and that included going up and down a very long 8.5% mountain grade here in NC.

Looking at the big 3, they all have models to get and models to stay away from. Duallies can often be found cheaper than single rear wheel trucks. I bought a used 09 f250 with the 6.4 diesel and regretted it for all of the issues it had including barely making it home from our Florida trip. You will hear stories like that for every brand. Honestly, try to find a last year's model new truck on sale cheap. I would get 4x4, you won't regret having it but you might regret not having it.
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If you're fine with driving a diesel dually, any of the 3 brands within the last couple years will work. The nice thing about going new is that you don't have to worry about what the previous owner did or didn't do to the truck. That said, you can certainly find a used gem that could save you tens of thousands.

I would only consider a single rear wheel truck only if you can't, or won't drive the dually. If that's the case, I would say you need to look at new almost exclusively as they've only made them available with the neccessary payload in the last year or two. (I could be wrong with regard to the RAMS though, so please research)

Test drive a few of them (old and new) and decide what works for you, the family, and your budget.

Side note - Didn't see the ages of the kids, but if you use car seats with LATCH, only Chevy and RAM has the lower tethers. Since we have a FORD, we have the Britax Clicktight series that uses the seatbelt.
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If you're fine with driving a diesel dually, any of the 3 brands within the last couple years will work. The nice thing about going new is that you don't have to worry about what the previous owner did or didn't do to the truck. That said, you can certainly find a used gem that could save you tens of thousands.

I would only consider a single rear wheel truck only if you can't, or won't drive the dually. If that's the case, I would say you need to look at new almost exclusively as they've only made them available with the neccessary payload in the last year or two. (I could be wrong with regard to the RAMS though, so please research)

Test drive a few of them (old and new) and decide what works for you, the family, and your budget.

Side note - Didn't see the ages of the kids, but if you use car seats with LATCH, only Chevy and RAM has the lower tethers. Since we have a FORD, we have the Britax Clicktight series that uses the seatbelt.
Ditto, totally agree with jnamadison. Also, I do own an earlier Dodge Ram 07, which I love, however the newer Rams have a much higher tow rating. The Cummins will pull the world, but you want to be safe and within limits.
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So if anyone is still following this, we finally made our purchase. We got the deal of a lifetime on a brand new 2015 Ram 3500 Laramie 4x4 crew cab long bed dually with the Aisin transmission. We wanted to make sure we had plenty of towing cushion and this truck definitely gives us that. We are still waiting for some modifications to be done to our rig, but hopefully we will be on the road in a few weeks!
For us in the end, it came down to what was the max amount of options and towing capacity we could get for the cheapest.
Thanks for everyone for their input. Seriously, you've all been amazing and I can't tell you how much it means to me that you took the time to reply to my questions. The RVing community is just so great, and this is exactly why we feel so good making this big decision to live this lifestyle.
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