Can a F150 do this?

[pwrriver]

Don't even think about the trailer. You're way over on cargo. I have an F-150 and the total cargo weight including passengers is 1786 lbs. So your 2500 lbs is 700 lbs over your max already. Get rid of all that cargo and you're okay with the trailer as the two capacity is 1100 plus lbs. and 1000 lbs tongue weight. Enough said. You need a 1 ton.

[DAHVGER]

Yes it can . I had Worknplay toy hauler ,25', with sxs in it the trailer was at 8000 lbs and 1000lbs of us and equipment. 2 years of use and no problems. So much extra power left over. it was a great. No problems stopping. Trailer breaks worked great. Most of you guys must be looking at misinformation on towing and payload numbers and have never owned a F150 ecoboost . Yes it was at the top of its capabilities on paper but not in practice. Not trying to beat any body up over this.

[wrvond]

Originally Posted by Camper901

Wow more than the diesels. I guess Since gas is cheaper than diesel all them hot shot haulers will be trading in on a eco boost with max tow packages.

I got a few buddies that hot shot haul. I better make sure they know about this.

All else being equal, a gasser will always have more cargo carrying capacity than a diesel. Because the diesel engine weighs more it reduces the cargo carrying capacity.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by Camper901

Wow more than the diesels. I guess Since gas is cheaper than diesel all them hot shot haulers will be trading in on a eco boost with max tow packages.

Depends on where you are. Out here in Washington State, diesel is cheaper than gas.

[hotrod6]

Prefer enough truck to handle the loads I carry and pull with a little cushion regarding max limits. Had enough white knuckle drives at near or over max limits. Crosswinds

Truck is a 2014 Ram 3500 DRW, Long Bed, Cummins. We love to ride the UTV and stay in style and comfort!

GVW: 14000, Max Combined:30000
Weight: 8450 (Wet) Actual.
Payload: 5550

Trailer T/W: 1000 (3008w Windjammer, 8900 GVW)
Curt WD Hitch: 100
Passengers: 350
Stuff in truck: 400
Polaris RZR Trail: 1100 (in bed)

2500# payload cushion.

[Frankiejay]

Diesel rigs are a Guy thing. (P.S. I love them both.) A good idea is to weigh your loaded for travel rig combo, and get them weighed. You'll be shocked at the real weights. Watch your tire pressures. Safe & Happy travels. See Ya down the road.

[jfspry]

I drive a 2018 F-150 Ecoboost, 8-speed, max tow for work every day. It is a very capable truck, but it is NOT capable of handling a heavy load with the ease of my Ram 2500 CTD. Yes, it develops great horsepower and torque for a small V6 but it does not make the torque of a large displacement turbo diesel, nor does it have the suspension and braking ability of a 3/4 or 1 ton. I love my 2500, but if I were shopping today I’d be looking at 3500s.

[Chuck_S]

Why all the confusion with junior high school math? There are three (3) never exceed weights:

1. There's a sticker in all vehicles the past couple of decades stating "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed Xkg or Ylbs." Every vehicle. There's a lot of yellow on the label so it's hard to miss. My Expedition's is 1415 pounds so I guess that's near enough to be a "3/4 Ton."

2. The factory will define a maximum towing capacity. This is computed with truck empty other than a 150 pound driver. There are two: with and without a WDH.

3. Trailer gross vehicle weight rating. This is the sum (tricky math) of the empty weight plus the trailer's maximum cargo capacity.

People routinely ignore all these with impunity on occasional weekends. I don't want to be saddled with a diesel F350 dually every day just to go camping a few weekends a year.

(Thought the 2018 F150 had a 10-speed transmission.)

-- Chuck

[Bhrava]

Sure if it is an XL Screw 3.5 EB with 157" WB and Max tow as the ONLY option. Anything else won't have enough payload and will be over GVWR and GCWR.

[jfspry]

Ding ding ding! Chuck, you are correct. The 2018 Ford is a 10 speed. My mistake.

[67L48]

Originally Posted by Michael31

I have a 2019 Chevy trail boss and I pull a 9800 lbs tt with 905 lbs tongue weight without any issues

I recommend you rethink your loading strategy. Only dropping 9% of your trailer's weight onto the hitch is contrary to most safety guidelines.

[GPerhach]

My F150 3.5 eco boost pulls 6300 lbs dry, full of water with the bed full and 4 adults without isssue. 4-5 mile long steep incline hills do slow you down some near the top.

[Stryker Guy]

I have the same truck the OP describes. Towing a 25 foot (30 LOA) toy hauler. Dry is 5800 lb but loaded comes in 7500 lb. Using a 1200 lb rated WDH. The truck pulls this fine and is stable. The transmission gets warm on 30 degree days driving the Coquihalla in BC. Saw 109 c for a bit last year. The change I need to make is better rear shocks but that is about it.

The issue with the OP is the 2500 lb payload. What are you hauling, gold bricks? Most toy haulers won't carry even close to that. The math that previous posters have put in makes sense.

You have to do all your homework on this to be safe for you and others on the road.
Cheers

[Mikeytheb]

Rear end ratio is also a very important piece of the equation, built in to the yellow sticker but many people look at max capabilities in the brochure and run connect a trailer and are over-stressing the total rig.

Those specs are published for a lot of reasons - release of liability of manufacturer, braking, traction and control etc.

People post all the time about - I towed a so and so with my VW big and never had a problem. Except you are slowly killing your transmission with every mile you drive. Not to mention sway and stopping ability. Don’t listen to individuals, look at (and understand) the specs, which differ by specific vehicle. And certainly don’t listen to truck salesmen. They won’t answer your question on whether or not you can haul a certain trailer. They WILL tell you they have sold several trucks to others who were hauling the same or bigger trailer. Notice, they neither lied nor did they answer the question.

[Stryker Guy]

Originally Posted by Mikeytheb

Rear end ratio is also a very important piece of the equation, built in to the yellow sticker but many people look at max capabilities in the brochure and run connect a trailer and are over-stressing the total rig.

Those specs are published for a lot of reasons - release of liability of manufacturer, braking, traction and control etc.

People post all the time about - I towed a so and so with my VW big and never had a problem. Except you are slowly killing your transmission with every mile you drive. Not to mention sway and stopping ability. Don’t listen to individuals, look at (and understand) the specs, which differ by specific vehicle. And certainly don’t listen to truck salesmen. They won’t answer your question on whether or not you can haul a certain trailer. They WILL tell you they have sold several trucks to others who were hauling the same or bigger trailer. Notice, they neither lied nor did they answer the question.

Great point about the gearing. Sadly, the sales people at truck dealerships and trailer dealers have no clue about what they are selling. You have to do the research and learn all the details.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by Stryker Guy

The issue with the OP is the 2500 lb payload. What are you hauling, gold bricks? Most toy haulers won't carry even close to that. The math that previous posters have put in makes sense.

Unfortunately the OP hasn't explained this, even though I asked them in a previous post.

[Bhrava]

Originally Posted by Mikeytheb

Rear end ratio is also a very important piece of the equation, built in to the yellow sticker but many people look at max capabilities in the brochure and run connect a trailer and are over-stressing the total rig.

Those specs are published for a lot of reasons - release of liability of manufacturer, braking, traction and control etc.

People post all the time about - I towed a so and so with my VW big and never had a problem. Except you are slowly killing your transmission with every mile you drive. Not to mention sway and stopping ability. Don’t listen to individuals, look at (and understand) the specs, which differ by specific vehicle. And certainly don’t listen to truck salesmen. They won’t answer your question on whether or not you can haul a certain trailer. They WILL tell you they have sold several trucks to others who were hauling the same or bigger trailer. Notice, they neither lied nor did they answer the question.

On the Ford (and eventually GM) the 10 speed negates the final drive ratios. a 3.31 with the 10 speed equates to the 3.73 in 1st gear now. The Max Tow (except HDPP) comes with 3.55 gearing which perfectly matches up with the EB torque range. The 5.0 is perfectly matched with the 3.73 gears and 10 speed because it has the torque range much higher than the EB, but would be too low for the 3.5 EB. There is more to the formula than just the rear gear with the F150, engine choice matters too. You really don't want too low a gear for the Ecoboost or it will get into a hunting situation because it is revving too high in the lower gears where the higher ratio will keep it in it's power band longer, making it more efficient. Max Tow are 3.5 EB only.

Here's the chart for the ratios between the old 6 speed and the 10 speed. the 3.55 is actually geared lower then the 3.73 with the 6 speed was.

[nrkmann]

Surly not advised. Load itself is greater than one ton suggesting a F350 as being the starting point, perhaps a F450. A F150 is a half-ton pickup, I.e. 1000 lbs.

[Chuck_S]

F150 might be a "half ton" in meaningless 1950s jargon but most can haul twice that. Heck, my Expedition has a capacity of nearly 1415 pounds or three-quarters of a ton.

-- Chuck

[nrkmann]

The obvious starting point is not a F150 was the point. Sorry you did not get it.