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Old 02-04-2016, 12:09 AM   #21
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They were ok.
They now have a 5th wheel and dually


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Old 02-04-2016, 12:12 AM   #22
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I pulled a 26 foot camper with my 07 Diesel Grand Cherokee for 4 years with no problems. I once got stuck in a thunderstorm that had 45mph wind gusts from the side on Southbound on I-25 just South of Pueblo, CO and it did just fine.

For every SUV pic of a flipover, I can probably find a dozen trucks and trailer flipped over pics.

You want to see extreme towing? Here is a pic of a diesel Jeep liberty towing a 26 footer! They used a $3,000 hitch to do it.
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:47 AM   #23
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"was only going 60" in 50MPH cross winds, eating a burger, texting on the phone, looking at the GPS map. Now I can do all of this because "we got a 5th wheel with a dually". Look, we are right behind you now . . .

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Old 02-04-2016, 06:34 AM   #24
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Surprised they didn't step up to a 42' 5th behind an EcoBoost.
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:30 AM   #25
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and you know....a "little" driver education on towing giant heavy shoe boxes down the road would go a loooong way! Wonder how many were asked if they have any experience towing by the dealer?

Very few I'm sure.

Again, not a "cure all" but it would benefit a few drivers and might even save a life or two.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:14 AM   #26
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From X00 miles away and without any evidence, I like the hitch set-up as our perp in this crime!
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:37 AM   #27
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Anyone else surprised at how good the camper looks after that wreck???? I think you could do a little buffing and it'd be good as new!
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:47 AM   #28
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Nope, they do not need to fix it up and get back on the road.

They mostly likely didn't react properly when the trailer swayed and probably compounded the sway they encountered. I'm thinking they overcorrected with steering and slammed on the brakes causing the trailer to jackknife.

I hope they never return to towing.
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:02 AM   #29
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Nope, they do not need to fix it up and get back on the road.

They mostly likely didn't react properly when the trailer swayed and probably compounded the sway they encountered. I'm thinking they overcorrected with steering and slammed on the brakes causing the trailer to jackknife.

I hope they never return to towing.
You hope they never return to towing? A lot of assumptions being made here.
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:31 AM   #30
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Nope, they do not need to fix it up and get back on the road.

They mostly likely didn't react properly when the trailer swayed and probably compounded the sway they encountered. I'm thinking they overcorrected with steering and slammed on the brakes causing the trailer to jackknife.

I hope they never return to towing.
I hope they are back on the road and happy no one was hurt. No one can say what caused this or what the driver did. Until you are in a like situation you do not know what you will do either. In the early '70s I was pulling a 19' single axel camper when a semi passed and the trailer started to sway. Each time it would drop on a side the action compounded. I crossed 2 lanes several times and have no idea how we stayed on the road, The CB was on and a trucker said "he is going to lose it" the 2nd or 3rd time I neared the guard rails on the drivers side. Well, I did not lose it and do not know how or why. I do know I had both hands on the wheel and never touched the brake control ~~ would like to see someone do that. When I pulled out of it I stopped on the side of the road. Two cars stopped to see if we were OK. Both my daughters were tucked in car seats and slept through it but my wife was a basket case the rest of the trip ~~ only 200 miles from home. That camper was traded on a dual axel trailer and a 2nd friction sway control added as soon as we got home and 2 weeks later we were back on the road. Had we quit we sure would have missed a lot of great times.
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Yeah.. The under wight part throws me... More like way OVER weight.
Maybe they meant they were tongue-light (as in less than 10%).
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:44 PM   #32
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Biggest problem with suv is the short wheel base and add a 30 plus ft tt and you are asking for trouble. Dont'car what type tow system you have. See this a lot. Later RJD
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:55 PM   #33
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Biggest problem with suv is the short wheel base and add a 30 plus ft tt and you are asking for trouble. Dont'car what type tow system you have. See this a lot. Later RJD

That's what I was thinking. Unless you drive an Excursion or bigger Suburban, the shorter wheel base of SUVs can make it a handful to drive.


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Old 02-09-2016, 12:06 PM   #34
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Biggest problem with suv is the short wheel base and add a 30 plus ft tt and you are asking for trouble. Dont'car what type tow system you have. See this a lot. Later RJD
Are you saying that a longer wheelbase will make up for an improperly setup?

What would you rather see:
a. A properly setup pickup that is over it's weight limits.
b. An improperly setup pickup that is within it's weight limits.
c. A properly setup SUV that is within it's limits.

Of course, I'm not including the obvious option D (a properly setup pickup, within it's limits), because I'm making a point.
But given these 3 choices, I'll take option C, thank you.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:20 PM   #35
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An improperly setup, or overweight, pickup can also make for a handful to drive.

I pulled a 3000 lbs popup behind a Chrysler minivan for 7 seasons (properly setup and within all ratings). Everyone on the popup forums said I needed an SUV or pickup with a truck frame to handle that much weight. You would not believe how stable the rig was, with a 400 lbs Single Bar WDH, friction sway controller, and Prodigy brake controller. Used about 8000 lbs of my 8300 lbs GCVWR.

Now I'm in our 6th season towing 5200 lbs behind a short wheelbase SUV. Using about 10,500 lbs of my 12,000 lbs GCVWR, with Equal-I-zer WDH kit, and that same Prodigy. Very stable. No sway. No bucking. Tracks well when I need a quick lane change.

Is a longer wheelbase inherently better, all else being equal? Absolutely. But it's just not right to imply that a properly setup SUV somehow is an accident waiting ot happen. That's just false.
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One thing that I believe to be missing is "certification by the manufacturer" of persons who install and give instruction to customers regarding WD hitches. Most dealerships I am aware of have NO ONE who truly knows solutions to WD hitch problems.
I detest more rules and laws as much as anyone, however if a dealer were required to have a certified person on staff to install and instruct on WD hitches most of these accidents would never happen.
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According to this dealer they can tow anything with anything.

I saw a triple axle Airstream behind a Honda Minivan. Enough said...


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Like this Can-Am RV :: T&C Van towing 34 Airstream
While I do not agree with Can-AM Rv, I do not know of another dealer that will set up a rig and then test it on a track to see how well it does.
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An improperly setup, or overweight, pickup can also make for a handful to drive.

I pulled a 3000 lbs popup behind a Chrysler minivan for 7 seasons (properly setup and within all ratings). Everyone on the popup forums said I needed an SUV or pickup with a truck frame to handle that much weight. You would not believe how stable the rig was, with a 400 lbs Single Bar WDH, friction sway controller, and Prodigy brake controller. Used about 8000 lbs of my 8300 lbs GCVWR.

Now I'm in our 6th season towing 5200 lbs behind a short wheelbase SUV. Using about 10,500 lbs of my 12,000 lbs GCVWR, with Equal-I-zer WDH kit, and that same Prodigy. Very stable. No sway. No bucking. Tracks well when I need a quick lane change.

Is a longer wheelbase inherently better, all else being equal? Absolutely. But it's just not right to imply that a properly setup SUV somehow is an accident waiting ot happen. That's just false.

You are making straw man arguments. The comments were specifically about 30' plus trailers and SUVs. Nobody is talking about pop ups and minivans. The first sentence of your last paragraph is all that needs to be said.


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Now that Mini van and Mercedes slalom stuff is CRAZY!
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