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Old 01-11-2021, 07:31 PM   #41
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ROCKWOOD MINILITE 2516S

Hitch Weight: 810 lb.UVW 6033 lb.CCC 1777 lb.Exterior Length: 25' 11"Exterior Height: 10' 11"Exterior Width: 96"Fresh Water: 54.00 gal.Gray Water: 60.00 gal.Black Water: 30.00 gal.Awning Size: 19'
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:51 PM   #42
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It's not always about the specs. It's also about braking and engine.

If it's a diesel, a lot less to worry about if it has an engine brake. If it's gas, you won't have engine braking and will relay a lot on the truck and trailers braking let alone the power to pull grades.

The trailer manufacturer's are appealing to trucks like the 150, I personally don't feel they have the capacity to handle emergencies such as hard braking or accelerating out of a problem.
I had a 2003 f350, V10. It always made me uneasy when desending grades and quick stops. It was a powerful truck and a good truck. I just needed to power of a deisel.

Good luck. This is my 2 cents..
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:53 PM   #43
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When I was test driving 3/4 ton trucks, I didn't think they were much worse than my Tundra. Then I bought one and drove it around every day and it is 100x worse than my Tundra. And my buddy's Titan. And my friends F150. There are a lot who say it's fine, but I would sure love to have the 1/2 ton ride and mileage over my 2500HD. But I can't pull my 5er with a half ton. The value of towing a 5er far outweighs the need for a comfortable ride.

You can't tow that trailer with your truck. You won't find a 3/4 ton that rides like your F150. Pick your poison.
This is why they make the f150 HDPP. 4x4 loaded as much as I could, including tailgate step, nav, inverter, and you get a truck with a 1/2 ton ride and 2500 lb payload, 17,100 gcwr.

Payload is usually the first number to get blown out in ďtrailer mathĒ. The yellow sticker rules all. Take that weight, subtract yourself, mate, kids, dogs, wood, generator, everything in or on that truck, including 100lbs for the WD hitch. The number that remains, divide by .13, and that is about the MAX Loaded trailer weight you can have. Loaded weight, not dry weight.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:54 PM   #44
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Get yourself an F250, with airbags, and a weight distribution hitch. Much better daily driver than the f350 and the only difference is one leaf spring. Not worth it for the extra cash. Great deals on used trucks right now too. 250 will ride better when not towing and is virtually the same truck.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:55 PM   #45
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It's not always about the specs. It's also about braking and engine.

If it's a diesel, a lot less to worry about if it has an engine brake. If it's gas, you won't have engine braking and will relay a lot on the truck and trailers braking let alone the power to pull grades.

The trailer manufacturer's are appealing to trucks like the 150, I personally don't feel they have the capacity to handle emergencies such as hard braking or accelerating out of a problem.
I had a 2003 f350, V10. It always made me uneasy when desending grades and quick stops. It was a powerful truck and a good truck. I just needed to power of a deisel.

Good luck. This is my 2 cents..
Not 100% correct, in tow haul mode, it engages lower gears pretty quickly. Not a jake brake, but still pretty effective.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:56 PM   #46
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How about this option?

ROCKWOOD MINILITE 2516S

Hitch Weight: 810 lb.UVW 6033 lb.CCC 1777 lb.Exterior Length: 25' 11"Exterior Height: 10' 11"Exterior Width: 96"Fresh Water: 54.00 gal.Gray Water: 60.00 gal.Black Water: 30.00 gal.Awning Size: 19'
Love that trailer!
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:57 PM   #47
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The TT hitch weight is more than your truck tongue weight allowed, so no. Also your truck payload is 1450....subtract hitch weight from that and only 2 people can be in truck when hauling. Based on these numbers, I don't think your truck can pull it.
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:08 PM   #48
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My thoughts

I have pretty much the set up you have described. Rock 2608bs and 2017 Ecoboost Screw and 12,200 gvw. Plenty of power but not as stable on the long haul as I would like. I benefited however. My wife was uncomfortable enough that we got the go ahead for a fifth wheel 2893bs with a new f 250 crew cab all on order. Even without the new trailer I was planning on a 250. If not I was going to load range E tires on the truck. I had already replaced the tires on the trailer with E's. I also put a Roadmaster Active suspension on the truck and that helped.
Good luck and be safe.
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:21 PM   #49
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping

No your truck is not rated for a trailer of that size, not only do you have to take trailer weights in consideration but at 60 mph you have a wind load hitting front of trailer, people forget about. Time to get bigger truck
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:26 PM   #50
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Probably so, my truck was pretty old and didn't offer much in the way of towing assist.
Now my 2020 f350 deisel...is everything I ever wanted in a tow truck. Nice ride also.
Pulls my 5vr like a dream.
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Not 100% correct, in tow haul mode, it engages lower gears pretty quickly. Not a jake brake, but still pretty effective.
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:32 PM   #51
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How about this option?

ROCKWOOD MINILITE 2516S

Hitch Weight: 810 lb.UVW 6033 lb.CCC 1777 lb.Exterior Length: 25' 11"Exterior Height: 10' 11"Exterior Width: 96"Fresh Water: 54.00 gal.Gray Water: 60.00 gal.Black Water: 30.00 gal.Awning Size: 19'
So just for reference - our TT is a '17 Cruise Lite 210RBXL and here's some wieght info from it.
Sticker Dry weight - 4819
Sticker GVWR - 7520
Actual scale weight loaded for a longer trip - 6180
Actual scale tongue weight for that trip - 840

Our '11 F150 is really close in cargo capacity so loaded up for a longer trip (included full FW tank) we're close to the limits. The truck tows it fine in our SoCal mountains and I feel very comfortable driving it. That being said, I wouldn't want a longer/heavier trailer than what we have with my current truck.

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Old 01-11-2021, 08:37 PM   #52
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How about this option?

ROCKWOOD MINILITE 2516S

Hitch Weight: 810 lb.UVW 6033 lb.CCC 1777 lb.Exterior Length: 25' 11"Exterior Height: 10' 11"Exterior Width: 96"Fresh Water: 54.00 gal.Gray Water: 60.00 gal.Black Water: 30.00 gal.Awning Size: 19'
The length is better but using 13% of trailer GVWR makes a ballpark loaded tongue weight over 1000lbs. Adding 100lbs for WDH leaves you only 350lbs for all in the truck and truck cargo.
The fictional dry tongue weight of 810lbd is very heavy for a trailer of that size. I have a similar sized TT and my scaled loaded tongue weight is 700lbs.
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Old 01-11-2021, 09:05 PM   #53
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Every other week I pull my FR Vibe 268RKS with my 2011 Silverado. We occasionally go 200 miles away but so far that's it. I have zero issues.

I wouldn't go any further or consistently over steep inclines but it's comfortable at speed on my North Woods Wisconsin trips. I do have a good WDH and have beefed up my suspension but seriously you seldom feel the beast behind you.
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Old 01-11-2021, 09:21 PM   #54
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Iíve ordered a mini lite 2509s with advertised hitch weight 709 lb, ccc 1569 lb and uvw 5300 lb. Equalizer 10k hitch. Iím hoping my 2016 f150 screw, 2 Wd, 3.5 eb, tow package, electric brake, pro trailer back up assist, 3.55 electronic lock rr axle, 6800 GVWR is up to the challenge. I will also be carrying 60 lb of propane and 2 6 volt batteries. My last trailer was 3500 lb and effortless for the same truck.
We hope to travel extensively. Any advice and or comments are appreciated.
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Old 01-11-2021, 09:37 PM   #55
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping
Nope. Won't work. You need to READ YOU TRUCK MANUAL. It's not really hard. You need to stay within:

your trucks hitch weight capacity
Your trucks towing capacity
The trucks combined vehicle capacity.

Typical hitch weight of trailer is about 1/10 of trailer weight of loaded correctly. You are listing dry weight. You need to add for propane, water, and anything else you load, groceries clothes etc. To the dry weight. What ever you guess, double it.

Add that weight to your trucks weight, you should stay under the combined vehicle.

Also that extra weight is added to the tow capacity.

Weight distribution hitch...... Does two things... It shifts some of the weight off the truck hitch back to the trailer tires. And it is also anti sway control. Forget about the weight shift, it will cause you to want to overload.

Speaking of weight, depending on the number of tires, all that trailer weight is distributed amongst the tires, evenly if the weight is distributed correctly. So divide the loaded weight by the number of tires and stay well under that or get a better tire. Factory tires are not that good and you will be getting blow outs if you do not do this correctly.

Also, a good brake controller is A MUST.

Hope I haven't forgotten anything. If I did, someone will come in.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:01 PM   #56
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Iíve ordered a mini lite 2509s with advertised hitch weight 709 lb, ccc 1569 lb and uvw 5300 lb. Equalizer 10k hitch. Iím hoping my 2016 f150 screw, 2 Wd, 3.5 eb, tow package, electric brake, pro trailer back up assist, 3.55 electronic lock rr axle, 6800 GVWR is up to the challenge. I will also be carrying 60 lb of propane and 2 6 volt batteries. My last trailer was 3500 lb and effortless for the same truck.
We hope to travel extensively. Any advice and or comments are appreciated.
With an equalizer 4pt WDH properly adjusted you'll be fine. My '19 F150 is pulling a 28' 7700 GVWR trailer with no issues. I run the tongue weight heavy last trip the Sherline scale had it at 950 lbs. Trailer itself "dry" weighs 5400 lbs
Filled with water, food, and "stuff" for a week's trip only weighs 6300lbs. Don't listen to the pack rats that tell you to use a trailer GVWR unless you really are a pack rat.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:09 PM   #57
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The answer is no. Get a 2500 anything and youíll be ok. Or, get a smaller TT. Be safe, not sorry.
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Iíve ordered a mini lite 2509s with advertised hitch weight 709 lb, ccc 1569 lb and uvw 5300 lb. Equalizer 10k hitch. Iím hoping my 2016 f150 screw, 2 Wd, 3.5 eb, tow package, electric brake, pro trailer back up assist, 3.55 electronic lock rr axle, 6800 GVWR is up to the challenge. I will also be carrying 60 lb of propane and 2 6 volt batteries. My last trailer was 3500 lb and effortless for the same truck.
We hope to travel extensively. Any advice and or comments are appreciated.
Once again, if you've read previous posts, you need to look at what your truck's payload capacity is. With a GVWR of only 6800lbs, I worry that it's going to low. My 2014 3.5 Ecoboost SCREW has a GVWR of 7650lbs and my payload is only 1828lbs.
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With an equalizer 4pt WDH properly adjusted you'll be fine. My '19 F150 is pulling a 28' 7700 GVWR trailer with no issues. I run the tongue weight heavy last trip the Sherline scale had it at 950 lbs. Trailer itself "dry" weighs 5400 lbs
Filled with water, food, and "stuff" for a week's trip only weighs 6300lbs. Don't listen to the pack rats that tell you to use a trailer GVWR unless you really are a pack rat.
Safe travels

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Iíve ordered a mini lite 2509s with advertised hitch weight 709 lb, ccc 1569 lb and uvw 5300 lb. Equalizer 10k hitch. Iím hoping my 2016 f150 screw, 2 Wd, 3.5 eb, tow package, electric brake, pro trailer back up assist, 3.55 electronic lock rr axle, 6800 GVWR is up to the challenge. I will also be carrying 60 lb of propane and 2 6 volt batteries. My last trailer was 3500 lb and effortless for the same truck.
We hope to travel extensively. Any advice and or comments are appreciated.
@Steve: You've bought a fine TT. We got one of those just recently, and are very pleased with it. Wouldn't change a thing, so far. We tow it with a 2021 Tundra (they all come with towing pkg, including electric brake control).

Tows and brakes just fine. Took it to the scales as we left for our first trip (water tanks empty, but 60 lbs propane and two batteries):
Truck = 7,120 (vs. 7,100 max GVW)
Trailer = 5,200
(Did not get a tongue weight)
We use a weight-distributing hitch with sway control

As most posters here point out, the tow vehicle capacity is the first limit you hit. At 6,800 GVW, you might be a bit too heavy but I don't know your truck's empty weight. Your best bet is to go to a scale. We are very fortunate to have a commercial one nearby that they'll let you use for free as long as you don't need a certification ticket.

We removed the top bunk and now have 3 adult-size sleeping areas.

11 MPG in mixed highway / local driving

Enjoy!
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