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Old 01-12-2021, 01:31 AM   #61
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping
Heck, just buy a motor home..that's what I do..
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Old 01-12-2021, 04:04 AM   #62
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping
Even try that with my Chevy !500 or my son's Ram Classic 1500, I suggest you look at a Forest River Wildwood 26-28' range They are usually all 1/2 ton towables. Also, stay away from a Dealer that doesn't have sales staff experienced in towing weights, GWVR, WDH, etc. they will sell you a Trailer you won't be able to tow.

My sister-in-law and her husband are prime examples, they went to Gander RV(BIG MISTAKE) Found a Great looking $100K Fusion 5th wheel. toy hauler, just a few feet longer than their old 5th wheel. They purchased it, brought the old one in and transferred all their gear over. Only needed to move it 30 miles from Gander to the Ranch we have Shares in, well one issue, the Hwy is a steep and lots of curves. Their New One Ton Truck Broke Down, because it wasn't strong enough to haul the new 5th wheel, equipped like it was. Not to mention that was without their Polaris Razor in the back. So there they sat in the middle of a 2-lane Hwy with a Brand New $175k RIG BROKEN DOWN, Because of misinformation by the sales staff. The truck they purchased was based on informtation the Sales Rep had emailed them as to what the Dry weight of the Trailer were. they purchased the truck to be at least 60% over that. Later they found out the Rep gave them the information for a much different HyperLite Trailer. They actually need a much larger truck for theirs if they were to be doing any long distance traveling. Fortunately, they stay put for 3 months at a time and only move to different locations on the Ranch, so their current truck will work. Once they get out from under the Finance Trap that Gander got them in, That was another thing. they will be going with a different dealer (Probably Mine, that's who their daughter bought her's at and got a bargain) and then a different Manufacturer of Trailer, it's falling apart with no backing. I am actually looking at another Forest River Product for my wife and I so we can pawn our current 2017 27RKSS off on our younger son, his wife and their two kids. ]
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Old 01-12-2021, 06:43 AM   #63
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How about this option?

ROCKWOOD MINILITE 2516S

Hitch Weight: 810 lb.UVW 6033 lb.CCC 1777 lb.Exterior Length: 25' 11"Exterior Height: 10' 11"Exterior Width: 96"Fresh Water: 54.00 gal.Gray Water: 60.00 gal.Black Water: 30.00 gal.Awning Size: 19'
That would fit your truck just fine. I towed a 28' Jayco 7800lbs for 10 years with a 2004 F150 and 2012 1500 Silverado.
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Old 01-12-2021, 08:21 AM   #64
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You are correct Sir .... if you ask 4 people, youíll likely get 5 opinions. It makes my brain itch.
Donít misinterpret tho, I value the ability to ask these veterans what they think. All I can speak to is what I have experienced.
I pulled a Rockwood 2608BS with a single cab F150 4X4 w/3.73 gears and a 2.7 Ecoboost (estimated at 7500 lbs. loaded) I weighed the tongue and got 775 lbs. In Mississippi we have modest terrain (mostly flat with rolling hills).
I traded trucks because I recognized my truck was maxed out and I had plans to go bigger one day.
My opinion is this, your truck will pull it, but only with w/d hitch, preferably w/ some sway control.
It wonít be ideal, and youíll be maxed,
but it will.
My ADVICE is, enjoy a few local outings, while planning your 3/4 ton purchase.
W/D hitch ... be careful, some hitches donít allow for backing while the anti sway is connected, others do. Mine is a Fastway E2, and I love it.
Good luck... btw, keep in mind, my opinion was based on what I pulled and how.
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Old 01-12-2021, 10:35 AM   #65
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This place needs an acronym clarification chart. I can't make head nor tail of some of this stuff!
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Old 01-12-2021, 10:48 AM   #66
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If you do not stay at our below vehicle ratings "all ratings" not only are you asking for trouble and break down sooner or later, you are breaking the law in most, probably all, states. He over the GCVW. Might get lucky, but do you really want him on the road., And you are behind, coming into him, etc. When all hell breaks out.
I shouldn't tell you this but sometimes starting out my truck with a 7050 GVWR is loaded to 7100lbs. The HORROR!! THE INHUMANITY!!!........ I solve it by traveling 70 miles, after that I'm under till the next fillup. The truck LOVES running heavy.
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Old 01-12-2021, 10:57 AM   #67
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping
Absolutely no way you are going to be safe or happy pulling that much weight with a 1/2 ton equivalent. You also, by law and for safety need a WDH because you are over 5000 pounds.
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Old 01-12-2021, 11:36 AM   #68
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Here we go. The continuing saga of just enough truck.
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A thing to keep in mind: The listed max hitch weight the hitch receiver itself can take. Most 1/2 tons have receivers that are rated to 1000lbs. Get under the truck and look up for the rating sticker on the hitch assembly. Some, like mine can go to 1340 lbs. If the DRY weight of the trailer-has an 1100 pound hitch, add 100 to that for the weight of the WD hitch, you're at 1200. You can not pack too many sweaters and plates before you are over weight there.

Just one more limitation to keep in mind. Generally, by the time you get to these sort of weights on a 1/2 ton, the payload has already been exceeded, but in some cases like mine, you can exceed the hitch weight before you bust out payload.

The next numbers to fall will be max combined weight, rear axle weight, etc.
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Old 01-12-2021, 02:47 PM   #70
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I wonder if I could tow the MiniLite that I mentioned with an F150 “Unicorn” MT, HDPP, etc.

I only need one partially filled LP tank that can travel inside the trailer in the back and only ever used one battery. Don’t ever tow with water in the tanks. The few things in the truck can travel inside the back of the trailer too.
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Old 01-12-2021, 03:16 PM   #71
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I wonder if I could tow the MiniLite that I mentioned with an F150 ďUnicornĒ MT, HDPP, etc.

I only need one partially filled LP tank that can travel inside the trailer in the back and only ever used one battery. Donít ever tow with water in the tanks. The few things in the truck can travel inside the back of the trailer too.
You can tow any minilite with an HDPP. That is my setup, and it is in the green on all numbers by a wide margin.
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Old 01-12-2021, 03:34 PM   #72
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You can tow any minilite with an HDPP. That is my setup, and it is in the green on all numbers by a wide margin.
Yep but finding a used one for sale, is nearly impossible. I've been trying to find one for the past year.
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Yup. Almost impossible to get new too. They have to be ordered.
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Old 01-12-2021, 03:44 PM   #74
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Absolutely no way you are going to be safe or happy pulling that much weight with a 1/2 ton equivalent. You also, by law and for safety need a WDH because you are over 5000 pounds.
We're not going to convince them, because they have done it and gotten by, they think it's ok. They don't know they might get away with being on the edge or a little over, but they don't realize it will wear the truck out faster and they are image on the road. And that's on flat ground. What about STEEP hills up or down.

I just hope they are not on the same roasted as me or you.
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Old 01-12-2021, 04:15 PM   #75
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A thing to keep in mind: The listed max hitch weight the hitch receiver itself can take. Most 1/2 tons have receivers that are rated to 1000lbs. Get under the truck and look up for the rating sticker on the hitch assembly. Some, like mine can go to 1340 lbs. If the DRY weight of the trailer-has an 1100 pound hitch, add 100 to that for the weight of the WD hitch, you're at 1200. You can not pack too many sweaters and plates before you are over weight there.

Just one more limitation to keep in mind. Generally, by the time you get to these sort of weights on a 1/2 ton, the payload has already been exceeded, but in some cases like mine, you can exceed the hitch weight before you bust out payload.

The next numbers to fall will be max combined weight, rear axle weight, etc.
F 150's tongue weight are often rated to 10% of tow cpacity.

Funny how that works out
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Old 01-12-2021, 04:24 PM   #76
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Yep but finding a used one for sale, is nearly impossible. I've been trying to find one for the past year.
Buy new.

If you really, really put a pencil to it, it's about the same. Financing costs are much lower on a new truck.

My buddy bought used, financed it for 3 years at an absurd rate and when he was finally done paying it off, it was next to worthless because it was over 7 years old. Not to mention repairs he had to make because it was already 4 years old when he bought it.

The finance percent on my Ram is 1.7% and on my Wife's Edge Titanium, we got 20% off and 0% financing for 60 Months.

YMMV and good luck.

The new F150 3.5 EB's make 400 HP and 500 lb-ft of torque. They're rated to tow 13,900 lbs as a 4WD.

Like I said, everybody's different so good luck whatever you do.
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Buy new.

If you really, really put a pencil to it, it's about the same. Financing costs are much lower on a new truck.


0% financing for 60 Months.

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Yep agree. You're spending north of 50K why not get EXACTLY what you want?

Plus with them giving you free money to buy it it's a win-win
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F 150's tongue weight are often rated to 10% of tow cpacity.

Funny how that works out
Slight correction. The tongue weight capacity is 10% of the hitch capacity. The hitch capacity is usually more than the truckís tow capacity. My F150 has a charted tow capacity of 9100# but it has an 11,600# rated hitch with an 1160# Max tongue weight when using a WDH.
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length
: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing


Thanks for helping
Everyone here is going to chime in about payload. The most critical factor Is REAR AXLE WEIGHT RATING. Your hitch weight will be more than 1050 lbs once loaded. Several hundred pounds will be transferred from the steer axle to the drive axle when you hok up. You will definitely overload your rear axle with that trailer.
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Sorry, I meant Rockwood.

Would a different optioned F150 be able to tow it?

Absolutely not. As I Posted you will overload the rear axle. My 2014 with HDPP is only 90 lbs under GRAW with 600 lbs tongue weight. Hundreds of lbs are transferred to the rear axle because the rear axle acts like a teeter totter.
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