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Old 01-03-2021, 11:52 PM   #1
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Can my truck tow this TT

Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, it’s left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone we’re looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11”

‘13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD —Max Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info I’m missing
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No, it doesn't look like that's going to work. You'll be over your hitch receiver rated weight, and your payload weight.
Loaded tongue weight at trailer GWR will be 1282 at 13% tongue weight, over your receiver rating.
Also, the hitch weight will put you over your truck GVWR and payload. 6500+1282=7782.
Also, according to the 2013 towing guide, your towing capacity is 7,500 or 7,700 lbs., depending on your wheelbase.
You're going to need to look for a smaller, lighter trailer.
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Old 01-04-2021, 12:25 AM   #3
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 tow this keystone weíre looking at ? Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200 miles from home.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11"Exterior Height: 11' 7"Exterior Width: 96"

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle. GVWR 7350. GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6590lbs.

Factory Hitch w/ WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out. 500lb. 500lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping
Even though Keystone is not a Forest River product, you've provided most of the necessary numbers.
You certainly will need a WDH. If you will read the Towing section of the F150's owners manual, you'll see why.
To estimate the loaded tongue weight, you multiply the trailer GVWR by 13%, which is 1282lbs. BUT subtracting the weight of the loaded truck plus 100lbs for the WDH. leaves you only 660lbs for the loaded tongue weight.
The fictional "dry" tongue weight is 1065lbs, without batteries, water, propane or trailer cargo.
You're already over payload by 405lbs, before you add the battery, propane, water and trailer cargo.

Bottom line is that NO, you shouldn't be towing that particular trailer. You need to find a smaller and lighter trailer or get a bigger truck.
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Old 01-04-2021, 01:15 AM   #4
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Sorry, I meant Rockwood.

Would a different optioned F150 be able to tow it?
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Sorry, I meant Rockwood.

Would a different optioned F150 be able to tow it?
The only F150 possible of having enough, would be the unicorn F150 with the Heavy Duty Payload package and the Max Tow package.
My 2014 F150 has the Max Tow package and I would never tow that trailer. It probably would be cheaper to get a F250.
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A good rule to follow is that any trailer you pull that weighs more than 6,000 pounds loaded and on the road would require a V8 engine over 6.0 ltr., heavy duty trailer package, and weight distribution hitch. If you are just going a couple miles down the road to your local campgrounds your 150 will be fine. But if you want serious road trips, you need more muscle than that. If you are thinking you want to go camping for the sake of economy, get that out of your head right now. The heavier the trailer, the more power you need, and if you're lucky you might get 8-10 mpg pulling anything that weighs 7,500 lbs in the first place. You could always go diesel for more power, but you will also need plenty of money for maintenance. Good luck to you. Personally, I wouldn't pull anything over 5,000 lb with the F150.
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It looks like you have a combination very similar to ours. We have a Rockwood Ultra Lite 2608BS with the front kitchen. Our hitch weight is 1000#. We towed it for the first time this summer with our 2012 Ford F-150 Eco-boost. The pickup had enough power (towing capacity) for the trailer, but only 1658 lbs of cargo capacity. We experienced sway if we drove over 55 mph. We traded our F-150 in for a 2021 F-250 and bought a ProPride hitch that we will be installing. I think that you can tow the trailer you have in mind, but your cargo capacity isn’t adequate.
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Old 01-04-2021, 02:11 PM   #8
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Never go by the dry weight. The hitch weight will vary based on the actual weight of the trailer. Go by the gross weight and use the scales. It looks like you will be over in a couple areas.
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Old 01-04-2021, 02:47 PM   #9
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, itís left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone weíre looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11Ē

Ď13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD óMax Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info Iím missing
Thanks for helping
No! 7350 GVWR - 6590 loaded actual weight = 760 lbs payload left. If you are thinking F250 diesel, don't. Go with the 350. You'll be glad you did. Good luck and have fun out there!
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I agree with all the other posters whoíve said youíll be over the F150ís payload. I would add that youíll potentially be at or near itís RAWR too. With camper trailers, the payload number is always the first spec youíll exceed. Yes, itíll pull it but youíd be using up some of the safety factor that the Ford engineers are giving you and youíll definitely feel itís at itís limit.

So if you want that trailer, youíll need a 3/4 ton pickup to tow it.

For what itís worth, hereís my opinion on larger pickups:
- A 3/4 ton gasser is good up to a 12000# fifth wheel.
- If you want a diesel, go with a F-350 - the heavy diesel engine robs too much payload on a 3/4 ton.
- If an F-150 with the heavy duty payload package is sufficient, get a F250 gasser. The F-250 has more potential to be future-proof if you ever go to a fifth wheel and the ride is fine as a daily driver.
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Old 01-04-2021, 05:06 PM   #11
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I'm pulling about 4500 with my 2020 Ranger with no issues, so I'd give the F150 with the factory hitch and WD about 7000 max if you want to have a leisurely drive and not on pins and needles the whole time watching for semi trucks and the like. Additionally, my Ranger is rated for 7500 but no way I'm going past 5000. (My 2021 Palomino 185x is a breeze to tow behind it with WD and that's with a 2.3L turbo and the same transmission as the F150 (10R80))
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I would not consider even trying that unless you are prepared to replace the truck if needed.

That is similar to when I had a 2009 F150 and bought our current trailer. I knew when we bought it that a different truck was probably needed. After getting the hitch setup properly and changing to LT tires I replaced the truck with a Chevy 2500 which we hated. I am now back in an F150 but with longer wheelbase and heavier payload, I am still over weight but it tows ok for our occasional use and the F150 is much better then the 2500 as a daily driver.

I bought the truck used and the dealer let me take it for a test drive with the trailer so I new we could live with it.
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Old 01-04-2021, 05:18 PM   #13
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Newbie here, Read so many threads on towing with various answers, it’s left me more confused, so to make this easy...looking for a TT (below) but can my F150 (daily driver) tow this keystone we’re looking at?
Also, do I need a Distribution Hitch? If so, any recommendations? Mostly flat Midwest Hwy. about 200-600 miles from home 6 times/yr.

Dry TT- Front Kitchen - Hitch Weight: 1065 lb. UVW 7809 lb. CCC 2056 lb. Exterior Length: 29' 11”

‘13 F150 5.0 4WD SCREW 302A with 3.55 Axle.
GVWR 7350
GCWR - 13,500.lbs
Factory yellow sticker says : Combined weight of occupants and cargo 1450lbs.
Weight of loaded truck for camping with occupants on scale 6500lbs.

Factory Hitch w/WD —Max Tongue 1050lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
W/out WD Max Tongue 500lb. Max Trailer 5000lb
Let me know what info I’m missing
Thanks for helping
Can you tow it? Absolutely.

Should you tow it?? That is the question.

Sounds to me like you've got a toyhauler in mind. The hitch weight won't be that much once you get whatever it is you're bringing with you in the garage.

Yes, you most certainly can tow it.

Should you tow it? I wouldn't.

And don't let our resident weight police dampen your spirits, the new F 150 is capable of pulling 14,000 (fourteen thousand) pounds with just the HD Tow package. Which every F 150 should have anyway.

Do you need a WDH? Oh, heck yes. You'll be hatin' life without it.

Also, if you get a new F 150, put a rear sway bar on it -- Unless they just started doing that at the factory. Which I doubt. If you want some SuperSprings or something like that, not a bad idea. You'll be surprised the difference a good sway bar can make.

I own a tuned and deleted Ram 2500 4WD that's making ungodly HP and Torque. I love it but I wouldn't do it again. Not because I don't like the truck. I LOVE the truck. But because if I can get by with an F 150, it's a no-brainer.

BTW, I have a 29 HFS Hyperlite which, believe me, isn't exactly lite. I pulled it for a little while with your exact same truck. It did it, but I didn't like it.

The big thing about a diesel is the exhaust brake, but unless you're going through some serious hills or mountains, you don't really need it.

And OBTW, if you get a new F 150, get it in 4WD if you're camping. You'll thank me later. Believe it

https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...owingGuide.pdf

In 4wd, it can only pull 13,900lbs.
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Only a F150 with specific equipment and specs, is rated for 14k. And it's probably a regular cab 4x2 base model.
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3.5L GTDI V65 3.31 16,100 – 11,200 – – – – – – – – – –
16,200 – – – – 11,000 – – – – – – –
16,400 – – – 11,200 – – – – – – – –
16,500 – – – – – 11,200 11,100 – 11,200 – – –
16,600 – – – – – – – – – 11,300 – –
16,800 – – – – – – – 11,200 – – 11,300 11,200
3.55 16,100 – 11,200 – – – – – – – – – –
16,200 – – – – 11,000 – – – – – – –
16,400 – – – 11,200 – – – – – – – –
16,500 – – – – – 11,200 11,100 – 11,200 – – –
16,600 – – – – – – – – – 11,300 – –
16,800 – – – – – – – 11,200 – – 11,300 11,200
17,5002 – – – – 12,300 – – – – – – –
17,7002 – – – – – – 12,300 – – – – –
17,9002 – 13,000 – 12,700 – – – – – – – –
19,3002 – – – – – – – – 14,000 – – –
19,4002 – – – – – 14,000 – 13,800 – 14,000 13,900 13,800

In the link I posted above, it's a SB SuperCrew with 4wd and only the 3.5l EB with Max Trailer Tow Package (53c)..... is required for 13,900lbs tow capacity. And the 3.55 differential. Even if I was buying it for grocery duty, I'd buy it that way.

It's a loaded up, busy brochure and what you're looking for is about 4/10ths down the page. Don't take the readings off the Gooseneck section.

These new F150's are nothing short of amazing
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I have a Silverado 1500 with the 6.2L engine and Max Trailering package. My yellow sticker says I have 1910 lbs of payload. Even with all that, there is no way I'd pull the trailer you described above. That trailer is firmly in 3/4 ton and above territory.
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And an OBTW.

You can't just buy an F-150 and hook it up to 12,000lbs of trailer and drive on down the road. At leaast, I wouldn't. I'd put a sway bar and maybe some spring helpers like you've got. And definitely a WDH. Which might be a bit of a pain with a toyhauler.

But nobody said camping was supposed to be easy.
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I have a Silverado 1500 with the 6.2L engine and Max Trailering package. My yellow sticker says I have 1910 lbs of payload. Even with all that, there is no way I'd pull the trailer you described above. That trailer is firmly in 3/4 ton and above territory.
That's why God invented Ford
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A F250/350 has heavier suspension, HD brakes, HD cooling, HD trans cooler, mucho bigger brakes, 373 or 410 rear axle for HD towing all around. (Always get a bigger truck than the minimum truck to do the job.) Your payload is too heavy for the F150. You never know when you will outgrow your rig and go to a bigger trailer. A 10,000 trailer can weigh up to 30,000 pounds in a panic stop. The F150 brakes can't handle the rig if you have an electric trailer brake failure. Most long downgrades of 6% can smoke your brakes. Good Luck with your decision. Safe and Happy Travels
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Again, not a good idea.
The original post truck, I mean.
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