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02-08-2018, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bikendan
The E2 is not an Equal-i-zer.
The manufacturer, Progress MFG Inc. is in Utah. That's where the 4pt Equal-i-zer is made.
The E2 is under their Fastway line of products. All of those products are manufactured overseas, including the E2.
The 4pt Equal-i-zer is superior to the E2 for heavier and longer trailers.
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Interesting. I never realized it was not Equalizer.
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02-08-2018, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
The E2 is not an Equal-i-zer.
The manufacturer, Progress MFG Inc. is in Utah. That's where the 4pt Equal-i-zer is made.
The E2 is under their Fastway line of products. All of those products are manufactured overseas, including the E2.
The 4pt Equal-i-zer is superior to the E2 for heavier and longer trailers.
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I appreciate the clarification. I was aware of the distinctions but didn't express it in the original post.
Definitely a solid following for the E4.
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02-08-2018, 05:04 PM
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Dealer where I'm picking up our Shamrock 21SS tomorrow is going to install the E2 for cost and says the 4-point Equal-i-zer is overkill for a trailer that size. At roughly half the price of the 4-point I'm going to give it a shot and see how it tows. Worst-case I sell the E2 and upgrade.
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02-08-2018, 05:23 PM
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Our trailer weights are not all that different. Your dealer may be right but given mine is just a bit heavier and longer I'm still leaning E4. Price is less a concern for me than ride quality.
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02-08-2018, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wirides
Our trailer weights are not all that different. Your dealer may be right but given mine is just a bit heavier and longer I'm still leaning E4. Price is less a concern for me than ride quality.
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I did some searching recently and it seems most folks with the E2 and trailers under 25ft long seem to be pretty happy with the E2, over 25ft and the sway control isn't as effective.
Previously, I used the Reese SC ( https://www.reese-hitches.com/produc...200_lbs_,66155) with a 31ft bunkhouse and it was OK, have never used an E2 or the 4pt to be able to compare.
So, we'll see how it does on the drive home tomorrow morning!
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02-08-2018, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W5CI
The E2 doesn't have any Sway control
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Uh, mine does. Works very well as a matter of fact. Trailer is Rockwood 2902WS
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02-08-2018, 07:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDrax
Dealer where I'm picking up our Shamrock 21SS tomorrow is going to install the E2 for cost and says the 4-point Equal-i-zer is overkill for a trailer that size. At roughly half the price of the 4-point I'm going to give it a shot and see how it tows. Worst-case I sell the E2 and upgrade.
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I owned Roo 23SS, about the same weight as your 21SS, and I chose the 4pt Equal-i-zer.
I now have a longer and heavier TT and didn't have to change WDHs.
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02-08-2018, 09:45 PM
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E4 vs E2 hitch?
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Originally Posted by DieselDrax
Dealer where I'm picking up our Shamrock 21SS tomorrow is going to install the E2 for cost and says the 4-point Equal-i-zer is overkill for a trailer that size. At roughly half the price of the 4-point I'm going to give it a shot and see how it tows. Worst-case I sell the E2 and upgrade.
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I picked up my new Rockwood Roo 21SS in April 2014 and use a Fastaway E2 hitch installed by the dealer. I have re-adjusted for a new truck, but it has done a great job. If I was replacing today, I would get another one. I have towed it 7334 miles.
I have just acquired a second truck (an F250). My F150 4x4 HDPP truck’s hitch is a lot higher than the 2wd F250. I would like to be able to tow with either truck as the need arises. So, I need another hitch “head” unit to adjust just for the F250. I wonder if I can just get the hitch/shims, etc without another set of trunnion bars or trailer-hitch mounts....or if it would just be cheaper to buy as a second whole unit.
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02-08-2018, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Velosprout
I picked up my new Rockwood Roo 21SS in April 2014 and use a Fastaway E2 hitch installed by the dealer. I have re-adjusted for a new truck, but it has done a great job. If I was replacing today, I would get another one. I have towed it 7334 miles.
I have just acquired a second truck (an F250). My F150 4x4 HDPP truck’s hitch is a lot higher than the 2wd F250. I would like to be able to tow with either truck as the need arises. So, I need another hitch “head” unit to adjust just for the F250. I wonder if I can just get the hitch/shims, etc without another set of trunnion bars or trailer-hitch mounts....or if it would just be cheaper to buy as a second whole unit.
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Check etrailer.com.
Shank $88
Head $178
https://www.etrailer.com/s.aspx?qry=...+e2&furl=-pa-2
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02-08-2018, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Velosprout
I picked up my new Rockwood Roo 21SS in April 2014 and use a Fastaway E2 hitch installed by the dealer. I have re-adjusted for a new truck, but it has done a great job. If I was replacing today, I would get another one. I have towed it 7334 miles.
I have just acquired a second truck (an F250). My F150 4x4 HDPP truck’s hitch is a lot higher than the 2wd F250. I would like to be able to tow with either truck as the need arises. So, I need another hitch “head” unit to adjust just for the F250. I wonder if I can just get the hitch/shims, etc without another set of trunnion bars or trailer-hitch mounts....or if it would just be cheaper to buy as a second whole unit.
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Watch Craigslist ~~ I've seen E-4s there for around $300.
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02-09-2018, 12:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptnJohn
Watch Craigslist ~~ I've seen E-4s there for around $300.
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He wanted E2 parts.
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02-09-2018, 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
He wanted E2 parts.
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Logic states if there are E 4s there the number of E2s should be higher as people upgrade and find they are stuck buying another hitch.
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02-09-2018, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptnJohn
Logic states if there are E 4s there the number of E2s should be higher as people upgrade and find they are stuck buying another hitch.
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Understand (now), but you didn't say E2 parts on Craiglist, which is what he wants, you said E4. So I assumed you were suggesting he buy an E4, as the original post was questioning E2 vs E4.
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02-09-2018, 03:09 PM
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Well, I made the first drive with the 21SS and E2 hitch, it was about a 75 mile drive on the freeway and wind was blowing from the west at 15-25mph. Most of my drive was heading east but there were some north/south legs so I got some crosswinds as well. No complaints from me, can tell it's back there but I wasn't fighting it at all. Seems to be a very well matched setup for me.
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02-09-2018, 08:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDrax
Well, I made the first drive with the 21SS and E2 hitch, it was about a 75 mile drive on the freeway and wind was blowing from the west at 15-25mph. Most of my drive was heading east but there were some north/south legs so I got some crosswinds as well. No complaints from me, can tell it's back there but I wasn't fighting it at all. Seems to be a very well matched setup for me.
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Glad to hear it.
It seems to me that the Fastaway is a quicker hitch-up than the Equalizer....no front pins to mess with.
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02-09-2018, 08:31 PM
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E4 vs E2 hitch?
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Originally Posted by wirides
I've done enough reading to determine the e4 seems to be the better hitch but I couldn't find specifically what I would like to know.
So, the e4 comes in a 1000lb model. The trailer we ordered is a surveyor 245bhs the weighs 5204 dry, 626lb hitch weight, and gvwr of somewhere around 7500lbs if my numbers are correct. I don't plan to tow with full tanks. So my question is, would the 1000lb model be TOO much hitch for the trailer?
I understand weighing is preferable but we can't weigh what we don't have and we can't tow without a hitch to being with. Thanks in advance.
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The E2 Fastaway comes in four models...6000 pound, 8000 pound, 10000 pound, and 12000 pound trailer weights.
The Equalizer comes in 4,000, 6000, 10,000, 12,000, and 14,000 models.
If you get the correctly sized model of either type and set it up correctly, there should never be need for “upgrade” unless you buy a different sized trailer.
Customer service of Progressive Industries is fantastic...and they made both models.
Fastaway have a 10-year warranty and Equalizer a lifetime warranty.
It sounds like the 8000 pound E2 would be your best fit.
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02-09-2018, 09:11 PM
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Thanks everyone. The conversation has been great. I'll probably go with the 1000lb E4. It just brings more to the table.
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06-10-2018, 11:13 AM
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I'm a little late to the party, as this thread started 4 months ago, but it has really been a great discussion without all the trolling.
We recently upgraded vehicles and TT, and have an e2 from out earlier setup (completely satisfied). I have it installed with our new tow vehicle and TT and have been doing all the reviews about setup including the videos on line and this post.
Bottom line is the e2 is still a good setup my veh and TT with the 800/8000 lb bars. We have 6000 lb curb weight and 7600 max, but am towing with a 3/4 ton capability of 13.2K. My biggest concern is sway control more than weight distribution.
I'll be completely reviewing the setup when we hitch up for our next trip. It's nice to know the option of the e4 from those who have posted here.
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06-10-2018, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teetime
I'm a little late to the party, as this thread started 4 months ago, but it has really been a great discussion without all the trolling.
We recently upgraded vehicles and TT, and have an e2 from out earlier setup (completely satisfied). I have it installed with our new tow vehicle and TT and have been doing all the reviews about setup including the videos on line and this post.
Bottom line is the e2 is still a good setup my veh and TT with the 800/8000 lb bars. We have 6000 lb curb weight and 7600 max, but am towing with a 3/4 ton capability of 13.2K. My biggest concern is sway control more than weight distribution.
I'll be completely reviewing the setup when we hitch up for our next trip. It's nice to know the option of the e4 from those who have posted here.
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I believe you will find the E2 satisfactory but I'd sell it and go with the E4. The 4 point anti-sway is much better.
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06-10-2018, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wirides
Do any of you running the 1000lb E4 have a trailer as light as the 245bhs?
Where I'm stuck is whether I NEED the E4 or if the 800lb E2 is actually better suited for the task?
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I did, from 2004 until last summer. The Equilizer 1000/10,000 served us very well, on two trucks, and two trailers during that time. The first trailer was a 23' with a GVW of 7,500, the second was a 28', but only had a GVW about 6,500 and a 600# hitch weight. Each was towed about 50,000 miles throughout the rocky mountain west. Great hitch! Just read the instructions, and set it up accordingly.
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