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Old 03-26-2020, 12:05 PM   #41
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Blind spot warning does not work with a trailer on the 2019 Silverado/Sierra 1500. When you plug in the 7 pin, you get messages in the DIC indicating that blind spot warning and rear cross traffic alert are disabled.
Amazing how GM got so far behind RAM and Ford on the electronic tech side. The 2008 debacle put them behind in my opinion.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:07 PM   #42
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As far as I know, GCWR is NOT individual truck specific. GCWR is NOT printed on my door stickers. GCWR is relatively clearly listed in the appropriate model year tow guides. FWIW, my 2019 SC 145WB with 3.5 EB and 3.55 gearing is 18,200lbs. What WILL be different for each truck is the Cargo Capacity (payload) printed on the yellow door sticker. CC is VERY dependent on trim level and specific added options.

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I am not familiar with the abbreviations for your 2019: "SC 145WB". Could you translate for me? Your GCWR of 18,200 is impressive. This is a F-150 model? But, I am wondering how GCWR could not be truck specific. Could you explain that for me? Each truck has it listed in the towing guides, don't they? I got interested in GCWR when I realized that figure was a little less than the total for truck, plus cargo plus towing totals. I was left with the impression that you can carry a lot of stuff and you can tow a hunk of stuff, but when you try to carry and tow, you got to trim it back a little for the total weight. Hence the GCWR. I am wrong about this? I know I am drifting off topic, but you got me wondering about this stuff.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:27 PM   #43
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I am not familiar with the abbreviations for your 2019: "SC 145WB". Could you translate for me? Your GCWR of 18,200 is impressive. This is a F-150 model? But, I am wondering how GCWR could not be truck specific. Could you explain that for me? Each truck has it listed in the towing guides, don't they? I got interested in GCWR when I realized that figure was a little less than the total for truck, plus cargo plus towing totals. I was left with the impression that you can carry a lot of stuff and you can tow a hunk of stuff, but when you try to carry and tow, you got to trim it back a little for the total weight. Hence the GCWR. I am wrong about this? I know I am drifting off topic, but you got me wondering about this stuff.
Not my place to answer on behalf of the other poster, but what I think it means is "Super Cab, 145" Wheel Base"
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Old 03-27-2020, 12:51 AM   #44
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Not my place to answer on behalf of the other poster, but what I think it means is "Super Cab, 145" Wheel Base"
Or Super Crew.
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Or Super Crew.
You're right. I was thinking Super Crew, but typed Super Cab - probably because that's what my truck is, so it's habit...
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Old 03-27-2020, 01:08 AM   #46
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You're right. I was thinking Super Crew, but typed Super Cab - probably because that's what my truck is, so it's habit...
Could be either. Both are made in a 145" wheelbase.
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Old 03-27-2020, 01:31 AM   #47
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Not my place to answer on behalf of the other poster, but what I think it means is "Super Cab, 145" Wheel Base"
145 inch wheel base = 5.5' short bed.
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Old 03-27-2020, 12:22 PM   #48
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145 inch wheel base = 5.5' short bed.
That's with the Super Crew. With a Super Cab it's 6.5' long
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So, it looks like I will be waiting for a 2018 Ford F-150 Lariat with 3.5 Eco boost equipped with BLIS and a trailering package, which will give me a GCWR well over my current 13,000 (2007 RAM 5.7 Hemi), to come within my price range. Thanks fellows. This has been very helpful. I'll keep watching the prices; if it looks doubtful, I may give an after market system (with its limitations for trailering) a try, but we'll just have to see.
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Old 03-30-2020, 07:40 PM   #50
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Not everyone uses their turn signal when changing lanes.
Well, sorry if I'm missing your sarcasm, but they sure as hell should. I find it really selfish when people don't signal because THEY know where they're going. It's not like you only need to signal if you're going to cut someone off. If people don't signal when changing lanes (BEFORE you start) then they do not have a right to complain about a feature that relies on the fact that you are supposed to signal lane changes. [/rant]
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So, it looks like I will be waiting for a 2018 Ford F-150 Lariat with 3.5 Eco boost equipped with BLIS and a trailering package, which will give me a GCWR well over my current 13,000 (2007 RAM 5.7 Hemi), to come within my price range. Thanks fellows. This has been very helpful. I'll keep watching the prices; if it looks doubtful, I may give an after market system (with its limitations for trailering) a try, but we'll just have to see.
I have a 2019 ram 1500 crew long box with a GCWR of 17000lbs and trailer blind spot and as soon as you plug the trailer in its learning its length on the first turn either than setting your brake pressure is the only thing you have to adjust.
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I am not familiar with the abbreviations for your 2019: "SC 145WB". Could you translate for me? Your GCWR of 18,200 is impressive. This is a F-150 model? But, I am wondering how GCWR could not be truck specific. Could you explain that for me? Each truck has it listed in the towing guides, don't they? I got interested in GCWR when I realized that figure was a little less than the total for truck, plus cargo plus towing totals. I was left with the impression that you can carry a lot of stuff and you can tow a hunk of stuff, but when you try to carry and tow, you got to trim it back a little for the total weight. Hence the GCWR. I am wrong about this? I know I am drifting off topic, but you got me wondering about this stuff.
Other posters pretty much nailed my truck. 2019 F-150 Super Crew 145" wheel base (short bed), 10 speed transmission. 3.5L Ecoboost engine. Platinum level trim, 20" wheels, 3.55 rear differential, Max Tow package (not max payload), 36 gallon fuel tank.


GCWR and GVWR are both design numbers. All manufacturers and now posting thiese numbers based on the industry standard requirements that have been published. Influencing both numbers are the frame desgin, power train design, what axles, brakes, etc are used. Subtracting from how much trailer you can pull are the options put on the truck - increasing the trucks weight.
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