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Old 04-02-2021, 01:20 PM   #1
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F-150 or Ram 1500?

I'm in the market for a new truck. I've always been a Jeep GC guy, and have 1 year of towing a HW296 with it (3.6L). Its not up to the task and I know its time to get a truck.

Which do you like, why, and what trim packages do have? What extras are a "must" and what is not worth the money?

I looked at both today and like them, though the dealerships had very little inventory on the lot...

All help is appreciated.

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Old 04-02-2021, 01:28 PM   #2
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I'm in the market for a new truck. I've always been a Jeep GC guy, and have 1 year of towing a HW296 with it (3.6L). Its not up to the task and I know its time to get a truck.

Which do you like, why, and what trim packages do have? What extras are a "must" and what is not worth the money?

I looked at both today and like them, though the dealerships had very little inventory on the lot...

All help is appreciated.

Thanks!
you are already a jeep guy, and ram is in the same showroom. Plus you can't beat motor trend truck of the year 3 times in a row
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:26 PM   #3
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Ram 1500 lone star (big horn outside of Texas). Towing package is included in this trim along other things. You’ll notice a lot of parts are shared between Jeep and Ram.

Surprised your jeep can’t handle that trailer
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I love the torque of my 3.5 EcoBoost. The new ones have 510 ft-lb of torque.
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Old 04-02-2021, 03:37 PM   #6
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Yeah, I may have pulled the pin and tossed blindly....

In the 1500 lineup, V8 hemi with eTorq, 3.21 ratio, and 5'7"/crewcab gets me at 8330 lb max trailer weight and a payload of 1780 lbs.

With the 3.92 axle the max trailer weight goes up to 11330 lb. I wonder how the fuel economy would suffer? That said, my HW296 sure isn't 11330 lbs.
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I'm happy with my Platinum F-150. 3.5 EB has more torque and power than I need. Platinum trim has "active motion" front seats. Gives a nice massage after being on the road for a while. 2021 has options to use truck as a 2K or more generator. For a bigger trailer, the max tow option. If you are ordering, get the tow mirrors. I go with the factory spray in bed liner. I've got 1550 lbs cargo.

I have also picked up the $50 worth of computer stuff to run Forscan. This free program running on a Windows laptop allows you to change a number of behaviors on the truck. I have constant display of tran and oil temps, turned off several annoying horn honks (leave truck when engine running, door ajar, etc.), I can run with fog and high beam headlights simultaneously, long list of other changes avilable..... There is a very active group on the F150Forums to support this program.
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Yeah, I may have pulled the pin and tossed blindly....

In the 1500 lineup, V8 hemi with eTorq, 3.21 ratio, and 5'7"/crewcab gets me at 8330 lb max trailer weight and a payload of 1780 lbs.

With the 3.92 axle the max trailer weight goes up to 11330 lb. I wonder how the fuel economy would suffer? That said, my HW296 sure isn't 11330 lbs.
Where did you get the 1780 number? From the actual driver's door sticker or a website/brochure?
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Specs are from the brochure... Yeah, I know...
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Old 04-02-2021, 04:40 PM   #11
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Specs are from the brochure... Yeah, I know...
That's my concern with the Ram 1500. They and Tundras have historically, the worst payload capacity numbers for a crewcab, compared to Ford and GM 1/2 tons. Supposedly Ram has addressed this over the past 2 model years. Still haven't seen any Ram 1500 with payloads over 2000lbs, like Ford or GM has.
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I have a 2020 RAM Laramie with 5.7l e-torque and the tow package. I've had 3 GM trucks and a 1st gen RAM. The current RAM is the best truck in virtually every category to any of my prior trucks. That said, you can generally do better on payload with the Ford when similarly equipped. My payload is 1580#, which accounts for all of the creature comforts i have installed. The e-torque affords additional torque on take off, but the large battery pack behind the rear seat that drives the e-motor/generator accounts for an additional 100+ lbs., as i recall. But for my daily driver, i much prefer the RAM and will keep my tow needs within its capability.
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But with Ford and Gm you need extra springs or air bags, makes no sense to buy a truck you need to pay extra and modify to support the sticker weight.
At least Ram can handle the sticker weight and more with out modifications.
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Ram has airbag suspension now...
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Ram has airbag suspension now...
Doesn't increase payload capacity.
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But with Ford and Gm you need extra springs or air bags, makes no sense to buy a truck you need to pay extra and modify to support the sticker weight.
At least Ram can handle the sticker weight and more with out modifications.
The OP was asking about half tons. The Ram 1500 needs more modifications for weight support, than the F150 or Chevy/GMC 1500.
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I towed my 36í TT with 2014 Tundra and 2014 F-150 Eco boost. They both did great towing and stopping. I now own a 2018 Ram 1500 Tradesman 3.6. I have driven it with close to 2800 pounds in the bed other than headlights pointing up did great. Towed a single axle trailer with a Motto Guzzi strapped on it and hated the experience. Here is pic of truck loaded but not sure of the weight. Click image for larger version

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For my needs, with a HW296 at 4K the jeep could haul it, but it was a dog doing up hills. It was also very noticeable that I had something bigger than my jeep behind me. I would never ask the wife to tow it...

I think its fair to say I could use a bigger TV, especially as the payload in the JGC with my large butt, two kids, a wife and supplies was pushing the limit.

I'm hoping with an F-150 or 1500 I can have more control, more space, more payload capacity and better "comfort factor."

They are both nice trucks, but the night version, blacked out 1500 just looks sharp.

Does anyone lease? I'll lease and run the payments through my LLC for the write off. I'm curious how they each pan out on a monthly basis.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/bmo.ram_15...HC,CS7,UAX,28M
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I looked at both today and like them, though the dealerships had very little inventory on the lot...

All help is appreciated.

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Ford F-150 production has been down all weekend due to "chip" shortages, roomer has it they have lot's full of inventory waiting for chip related components.

For what it is worth , a 250/2500 will be a better choice for a tow vehicle than a 150 with heavy springs. Plus you can get one with a real CTD and put a bigger smile on your face.
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When I researched vehicles in 2019 I felt that the Ram had the nicest interiors and most "car like" ride with the coil springs. The Ford 150 had superior torque and payload. Very pleased with my Laramie with max tow , 4X, 3.5 Eco, 10 speed tranny, 1809 lbs payload. Tows great with my trailer. Good navigation and electronics package. The only modifications I added were Bilsteins in the rear, a camper shell, and some minor interior items. mpg on the flat is 19-20+ if I'm careful, about 10 towing in the Sierra. More comfortable than our Acura MDX.

I towed a friends larger TT and the 150 didn't notice.
It was the right choice for me.
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