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Old 02-20-2020, 09:54 PM   #61
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Even with a F250, sway is going to be a problem. A WD 4 way sway control hitch will not control the Trailer's swaying/moving from side to side as you go down the road. Go ahead and factor in a $3K Hensley and or Propride sway elimination hitch.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:30 PM   #62
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I'd get an F350. Essentially the same price with more cargo carrying capacity.
X2^^...same price but more payload... think future.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:31 PM   #63
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I pulled a 9000# 5th wheel with an F150 Ecoboost ... no shortage of power by any means, but the F250 is MUCH better at handling the weight and braking. If Ford had offered the Ecoboost in the F250, I would have bought it.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:32 PM   #64
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The exclusive F-150 beast ...

I own a travel trailer about the same length (34.5í), and the same weight (9,000#). I did buy a new 2018 F-150 that has the capability to tow 13,000# conventionally. Be very careful if you go the route of the F-150. To get the maximum towing capacity from the 2018 & up F-150, you have to have these specs: Supercrew; 3.5L Ecoboost; 3.55 gears; Max Tow Package; 20Ē wheels; and a 6.5í bed. You can not have the max payload package along with the Max Tow package to achieve the maximum tow capacity. Most people hear that the F-150 can tow 13,200# (4x2); 13,000# (4x4). They go shopping and buy the Ecoboost Supercrew with Max Tow package, but because the truck has 18Ē wheels and the common 5.5í bed it doesnít have that capacity.
The truck I bought was hard to find, I was getting ready to order one before I found ours new at a local dealership. It was a demo with 300 miles on it. It does have a payload capacity of 2,050#; a GCWR OF 18,400#; and max GVWR of 7,050#. I was looking one night to try and find a used one the same year as mine and same specs recently. I found one exactly the same, except it had 3.73 gears.
I did add Airlift 2000 air bags to the rear and used them one time with my old chain and bars WDH with sway control. I did so to keep any porpoising down. But the next time out, I switched to the Andersen WDH. I donít need to use the Airlift airbags now, while using the Andersen. Thereís no porpoising (the urethane on the WDH prevents it), and no sway. Tows like a champ, no issues whatsoever. The higher trim packages and optional equipment subtracts from payload/towing capacity. Mine is an XLT with Sport appearance package and Fx4.
You really have to look hard to find a truck like mine with the ability to do what Ford advertises as itís best in class towing for the half ton (I believe Chevy is claiming 200# more with their 2020 models now - 13,400#).

I added the Ford OEM towing mirrors myself for $700.
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Old 02-20-2020, 11:48 PM   #65
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Go with F250

I pull a 38' Coachmen Freedom Express, dry weight about 8000 lbs, with a 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost and have not had any problems. I have the Max tow package, but it is also 4W drive, so that adds a little more weight and puts me at my limit. I replaced the original 4 ply passenger tires with 10 ply Kevlar tires and it made a big difference in sway. The tires also dropped my gas mileage a little. I generally don't drive over 65 mph. I keep the truck well maintained. However, I would recommend the F-250. I have considered replacing mine, not because I have had any issues with it, but just for the fact I believe the F-250 is a better option for my size camper, which is a bit longer than yours. My problem is that my F-150 is almost paid for and I am looking forward to no truck payment. If I do ever decide to get rid of my F-150, it will be replaced with a F-250.
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:59 AM   #66
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I have a GreyWolf 22rr, and my 2012 F150 Eco pulls it without a problem. But I agree with the other gentleman's comments about thinking about what you'll have in 5 years......If you see a camper upgrade in the near future, I'd go 250/350.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:02 AM   #67
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Talking F250

We have a 33' Woodjammer and pull it with A F250 Lariat gas. It does fabulous even in the mountains with steep grades, barely needing brakes downhill as well. MY only advice is that I wish I got the diesel. Finding a GAS pump that is easily pulled through with the 15' long bed pulling a 33' TT is really difficult. Would be so much easier with diesel at truck stops.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:57 AM   #68
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I had a F150 ecoboost and pulled 9000 loaded with no problem with a weight distribution hitch and air bags . If you need more capacity than that next step up would be 250 with the big engine or diesel
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Old 02-21-2020, 02:31 PM   #69
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I am currently working to upgrade my tow vehicle and I am on the fence between the F150 Eco boost or the F250 gas. I will be using this vehicle to tow a Rockwood 31' travel trailer. Weight is approximately#9000 loaded. I know I will get some good feedback from the Forest River community. Please help me decide which side of the fence to fall on
Cant go wrong with the 250 imho
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:35 PM   #70
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Life is short and sometimes is shorter when you don't have enough truck. I would find a friend with an HD truck and hook up to your trailer and go for a spin. I am sure you will have an answer to your question in a very short time.
Look at the stickers and do the math. Life is so much more enjoyable when you get to your destination and your DW does not have to pry your fingers off the steering wheel or you have sucked all the vinyl off of the seats.
Think about upgrades in the future. Kids get older and have more toys.You might even want more toys and the DW might want a washer and dryer.
I just went from a 3/4 to 1ton DRW and would never go back. Not the answer for everyone but I know I can pull whatever I want.
Good luck in your choosing and safe travels.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:46 PM   #71
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Go 250 and 6.7

Have towed a lot over the years trailers campers, and boats. I used F150ís without a problem plenty of power good handling but paid heavily at the pump.
New to 5th wheels, and currently had just replaced my 12 year old 6.0 F250 with a 2015 F250 6.7 with airlift rear suspension. What a difference very stable towing minimum sway but not paying heavily at the pump. Towing either the 20ft boat or fifth huge difference with the diesel and this newer truck with airlift hardly know pulling anything, be careful.
My first tow vehicle F150 worked well but the F250 has much better platform and the diesel really gives an edge at the pump and extra torque.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:58 PM   #72
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Even with a F250, sway is going to be a problem. A WD 4 way sway control hitch will not control the Trailer's swaying/moving from side to side as you go down the road. Go ahead and factor in a $3K Hensley and or Propride sway elimination hitch.
Well that's just a bogus statement ! sway is not a problem for most myself included . don't need a $3000 hitch to take away sway that doesn't exist. 9800lbs TH andersen hitch and never sway . not even passing trucks or in cross winds . Guess some people need to spend to feel safe or can't get their rigs right to prevent it
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Old 02-21-2020, 06:28 PM   #73
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F150 vs. 250

I had a 2017 F150 Platinum with the EcoBoost. Great engine!!! I was pulling a 33' Forest River Flagstaff 5er that weighed 9500#. The truck had all the GO one could ask for. WHOA was the problem, not to mention that every time a car passed, it blew me and I spent all of my driving hours recovering my position in the lane. I can't imagine what it would have been like with a bumper pull, even with sway bars. The truck just doesn't weigh enough for the job it is 'rated' for. For me and my wife, it was miserable. I put 10 ply radials on it, added air bags to it. Both helped a bit, but still not a pleasurable tow. White knuckle driving all the way.

After 6 months, i told her either a new truck or sell the RV. We went truck shopping. I wound up with an F250 (went for the diesel). OMG, what a difference. Right tool for the job! My wife now reads magazines while we travel and I can relax as well. Even when 18 wheelers blow by, it has a minimal effect. Good luck and I hope you heed my warning and don't listen to what the RV salesman tells you. Been there, done that.
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:26 PM   #74
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I don't think I ever heard of someone with a F250 say they wish they would have bought a F150 instead. As mentioned earlier, the prices for a F150 is not that far from good F250. The demand for F150's has driven the price to a point where I think they are way over priced.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:16 PM   #75
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No comparison

Been there, done that, I had both. I started towing my 2019 Cherokee, 31ft 9000# loaded with my 2015 f150 Ecoboost with a Husky Centerline hitch. I spent a lot of time researching the specs, choosing a hitch, and even put airbags in the truck (which ruined the factory ride) I kept the tire pressure high to prevent sidewall roll, and triple checked all my hitch measurements to ensure the truck and trailer were both near-perfectly level when loaded for transport. I knew the weight of the trailer, truck, people and gear. Everything that could be done to ensure the safest and most stable ride was done. What I liked was that the 150 had more than enough power to pull and stop the camper. In fact, it had a seemingly endless supply of torque... mash the pedal and it snapped that trailer right along from any speed. I very quickly learned that although it could MOVE the weight, it absolutely could not CONTROL the weight. Once I got above 60mph the camper would toss the truck around with even the slightest crosswind. Passing or getting passed by a tractor trailer or box truck would make me feel like I was getting blown off the road. The truck was just too light and the frame/suspension was not stiff enough. Everyone told me "that's just what they do" but I was not content with every trip being a white-knuckle ride. On one trip, a slight crown on a rural road almost pushed the truck into a pole...that was it, my kids weren't worth the risk, I was done with that truck. After more and more research, I bought a 2020 f250 gasser. All I can say is... What trailer? The 250 doesn't just control the trailer, it MANHANDLES that trailer. I can easily cruise at 70mph all day, and punch it up to 75-80 if I need to get past someone without ever feeling like I am not in complete control of the unit. I have even been hit with some heavy crosswinds at those speeds and it barely budged the wheel. Hauling that trailer was just effortless, after all, the truck was specifically designed to move heavy weight, without any modifications. If I had any complaints, it would be that the 250 did not feel like it had the torque at the low end like the Ecoboost (twin turbos are able to produce torque at low rpms) and didn't get the mpgs like the 150. The 250 also seemed to hunt around between gears more often too, but that because the torque band is around 3500rpms. Because of that, the mpg is not as good as the 150 was, but, we are only talking about 9mpg for the 150, and 7-8 for the 250. Nothing is more important than knowing you have complete control of your truck and trailer, and the safety of your family is in good hands. Since the truck handled so well, I traded the Cherokee TT for a Flagstaff 5th wheel, 38ft 12000# loaded. There is negligable difference in towing, except for steering and backing. So, just because the 150 "can" haul your TT, the 250 was meant to! Hope it help.
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Old 02-22-2020, 06:34 AM   #76
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The reason why some can and some can’t tow with a 1/2 ton vs 3/4 + is because to quantify sway for a combination you must consider both the TV and the trailer. If the trailer has good design and load distribution it will tow better regardless of its weight. From a general point of view RV TT’s have poor towing characteristics then other types of trailers. 75% + of its GVW is fixed and not movable so it’s designed weight (floor plan) has a big impact. The heavier TV can and has overcome this countless times and is certainly an option, but it’s expensive. You can also use the added payload in the trailer to improve its handling but most likely the manufacturers put storage locations where using them makes things worse.
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Even with a F250, sway is going to be a problem. ...
No. Sway doesn't just happen, its avoidable and a truck capable of more tongue weight will allow proper loading. Proper loading eliminates sway. Even if sway is induced by wind or a vehicle passing -those inducers are just the straw that broke the camel's back. They are bringing the problem of weight being poorly distributed in reference to the trailer's axle(s) to show itself.

High tongue weight, as little weight aft of the trailer's axle(s) and avoiding aerodynamic mistakes (trailer nose high) is what eliminates sway.
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I would base it on how much I was towing and how much I needed to use the pickup day to day. If it just was to sit and only be used a few times a month to do other chores I'd get a F250 or even F350. If you commute to work, go out to dinner, drive it everyday, and then only tow say 2000 miles a year vs 12000 other miles of general use I'd get the F150 and make sure it has the max payload package.
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Old 02-22-2020, 12:30 PM   #79
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F-150 vs F-250

I have a travel trailer the same weight and size. Iím pulling it with a 2016 F-150 Lariat crew cab 3.5 ecoboost 3.55 rear end with the max tow package. I have the Hensley Arrow WD hitch and have no trailer sway at all. Pulls great in wind and hills but gas mileage in windy conditions is about 7.5 mpg. Luckily the max tow has the 36 gallon fuel tank.

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