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Old 09-23-2018, 08:26 AM   #41
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I agree. If I use 13% of the TT 9638lbs that is 1253 minus the 1698, leaves 445 lbs for those things you mentioned. Not good!!! Been researching the F250 and now need to decide gas or diesel which this thread has addressed. thanks for your input, much appreciated.
With the numbers you are citing, you would certainly be better off with the F-250. And you would probably enjoy the whole towing experience more. Good luck.
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Good to hear, how do you like your F250?
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Keep in mind the trim level when buying a truck. It does little good to get a F250 in say a Lariat package. All those bells and whistles eat up payload capacity. You need to decide if you want a tow vehicle or a luxury ride. Thatís why I custom ordered my F250 with only the features I needed to get the max payload I could.
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Keep in mind the trim level when buying a truck. It does little good to get a F250 in say a Lariat package. All those bells and whistles eat up payload capacity. You need to decide if you want a tow vehicle or a luxury ride. Thatís why I custom ordered my F250 with only the features I needed to get the max payload I could.
And, not starting a debate on which is better, but the fact is that the gas option is lighter weight than the diesel option leaving more available payload.
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And, not starting a debate on which is better, but the fact is that the gas option is lighter weight than the diesel option leaving more available payload.


And the 4x2 version of a truck is lighter still.
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Been researching the F250 and now need to decide gas or diesel which this thread has addressed.
If this is going to be a daily driver, then the gas option is probably your best choice.

I went from a Dodge Ram 1500 gasser to a Chevy 2500HD gasser (with emphasis on the 4.10 rear axle) and I have absolutely no regrets over getting a diesel.

It tows (and stops) my 9900 pound 5'ver like it isn't even back there.
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Haven't read through the whole thread yet but we are in a related situation. We have a 2009 Silverado 2500 with 6.0 gas. Our truck is giving us enough problems due to sitting unused a lot before we got our travel trailer, that we are in the market for a new tow vehicle. On our last trip we realized we probably spent more time driving the truck without the trailer than with it, and it's not the most comfortable and certainly not fuel efficient at all. On our trip we visited our friend with a new F-150 (which I've never considered an option) and we were very impressed with it. Now that the small power stroke is an option I am seriously considering this truck as it will be comfortable around town and on excursions while also being fuel efficient and having more torque than our current tow vehicle. Our trailer is only around 5000 pounds so well within the capabilities of that truck. We had being eying up the Ram ecodiesel but the payload was a concern, and our friend's F-150 had a 1700 payload and I'm reading that you can equip the F-150 powerstroke 4x4 can be equipped for 2000 pounds payload, which would be more than enough for our purposes and negate the need to go crazy weighing every little thing that goes in the bed when you tow, which it seems like some people with the Ram are dealing with.
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Haven't read through the whole thread yet but we are in a related situation. We have a 2009 Silverado 2500 with 6.0 gas. Our truck is giving us enough problems due to sitting unused a lot before we got our travel trailer, that we are in the market for a new tow vehicle. On our last trip we realized we probably spent more time driving the truck without the trailer than with it, and it's not the most comfortable and certainly not fuel efficient at all. On our trip we visited our friend with a new F-150 (which I've never considered an option) and we were very impressed with it. Now that the small power stroke is an option I am seriously considering this truck as it will be comfortable around town and on excursions while also being fuel efficient and having more torque than our current tow vehicle. Our trailer is only around 5000 pounds so well within the capabilities of that truck. We had being eying up the Ram ecodiesel but the payload was a concern, and our friend's F-150 had a 1700 payload and I'm reading that you can equip the F-150 powerstroke 4x4 can be equipped for 2000 pounds payload, which would be more than enough for our purposes and negate the need to go crazy weighing every little thing that goes in the bed when you tow, which it seems like some people with the Ram are dealing with.


Do you need a 4x4?
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Do you need a 4x4?
Absolutely. We live in New York. 2 wheel drive trucks are very unusual around here.
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Absolutely. We live in New York. 2 wheel drive trucks are very unusual around here.


Iím in northern Virginia and couldnít find a 4x2. One reason I ordered my truck to be built how I wanted it.
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Absolutely. We live in New York. 2 wheel drive trucks are very unusual around here.


I only asked, because it cuts into your payload a bit. I suspect the resale would be better on one.
Iím towing a bit over #7000(32 ft end to end)with a 2010 F150 Screw 4x4. It has none of the newer advantages. Although it does have a Tow package, itís not the Max Tow. It has the older 5.4 with the 6spd and 3.55 rear end. It has the Shorty bed.
If youíre only dragging #5000, you shouldnít have a bit of trouble with the eco boost and Tow Package.
If I were to replace this truck right now, itíd be for a F150 ecoboost with the Max Tow.
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Does anybody have a F-150 with the 3.0L Diesel engine that can tell us what it’s sticker payload number is? I’d think any diesel half ton would have a smaller payload number than a comparably equipped gasser just because the Diesel engines are so heavy.
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Does anybody have a F-150 with the 3.0L Diesel engine that can tell us what itís sticker payload number is?........
Not sure on the payload #'s but looking up the 3.0 Diesel it looks like it weighs about 500 lbs where the 3.5 Ecoboost weighs in at about 450 lbs. Realistically, not a whole lot different to effect your payload.
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I was told that the EB is a pretty heavy motor since it was engineered to handle pressures and loads that normally aspirated engines don't necessarily generate. This could explain why it is so close in weight to that diesel. I'm not a mechanic though.

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Do you need a 4x4?
You won't need it...until you need it and don't have it!

In this day and age a 2WD truck is a waste of money if you are towing a camper with it!

I can't tell you how many times I've needed the 4WD on wet grass, muddy campsites or loose stones and rocks to get the camper moving!

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Does anybody have a F-150 with the 3.0L Diesel engine that can tell us what itís sticker payload number is?.

Every different trim level will have a different payload rating. Best thing is go to a dealer and look at a truck configured like you want and check the payload. Do not depend on a salesman to give you the number. They will look at the truck closest to the office and give you that number. I spent an hour schooling a dealer on how payload ratings work. Talk to a fleet sales manager and build a truck on an order form.
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You won't need it...until you need it and don't have it!



In this day and age a 2WD truck is a waste of money if you are towing a camper with it!



I can't tell you how many times I've needed the 4WD on wet grass, muddy campsites or loose stones and rocks to get the camper moving!





Disagree. 10 Ford F150s and F250s Iíve owned. All 4x2. Over 100k miles of towing 30+ foot long trailers. Never found a place I couldnít go. Admittedly I donít camp in the boondocks.
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You won't need it...until you need it and don't have it!

In this day and age a 2WD truck is a waste of money if you are towing a camper with it!

I can't tell you how many times I've needed the 4WD on wet grass, muddy campsites or loose stones and rocks to get the camper moving!

Nah I mean its al what you use it for.. if someone needs a truck but not 4x4 then why not get a little more MPG's a lil better ride, a lil more payload, Etc. I personally will never own a 2x4 because I drive a lot in winter and make trips into the mountains, but if I didn't have to deal with transportation in winter weather, or dealing with a muddy place on my property occasionally then Id not have a 4x4. I look at certain parts of the country and figure do they even SELL 4x4's there?
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I went from a 2010 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 in it to a new 2018 F250 I. June and could not believe the difference in towing. Still being fairly new to towing (only had our tt for 3years now) I thought it was about the go, and I quickly found out it was most about the stop and the steady non-waving tow. It sure is nice to be able to tow and have the ac on though. Love my new F250, and have found that after break in of about 2k miles, my fuel economy has actually bumped up ever so slightly.
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