F350 better than F250 ??

[Jerheye]

Originally Posted by Cowracer

f350 SRW is just a 250 with an extra leaf in the rear springs.

Seriously. Everything else is the same. Same axles. Same brakes. Same everything.

Tim

I have an F250 with the camper and plow package.
The camper pkg added an extra leaf in the rear so it’s a 350 with A 250 badge.

[koller1509]

Originally Posted by emm-dee

Just curious as to why get the manual transmission and give up almost 300 pounds torque (and 1,000 pounds tow capacity) with the de-rated Cummins.

Because the stock clutch wont handle the higher torque

[itat]

Originally Posted by DieselDrax

The devil is in the details.

F250 gas/diesel w/o HD tow package = Sterling 10.5
F250 w/ HD tow & F350 SRW = M275 rear axle
F350/F450 DRW = M300 rear axle

So, you're both right. It just depends on which config you're talking about.

What is a HD tow package?

[DieselDrax]

Originally Posted by itat

What is a HD tow package?

See pic, guess they call it the high capacity tow package. Note “upgraded axle.”

[itat]

Originally Posted by DieselDrax

See pic, guess they call it the high capacity tow package. Note “upgraded axle.”

Attachment 191380

I don’t recall them offering that in 2016. Maybe its only on the 2017 and newer model years?

[DieselDrax]

Originally Posted by itat

I don’t recall them offering that in 2016. Maybe its only on the 2017 and newer model years?

Not sure, I don’t really keep up on Ford stuff but there was a similar discussion some months ago about this very axle subject so I knew there was some info that some folks didn’t seem to be aware of.

[itat]

I’m pretty sure that in 2016 both the F-250 and the F-350 SRW had the Sterling 10.5 rear axle.

[DieselDrax]

Originally Posted by itat

I’m pretty sure that in 2016 both the F-250 and the F-350 SRW had the Sterling 10.5 rear axle.

Ok, but this thread is talking about new trucks.

[67L48]

Originally Posted by gastan

I must be missing something. Almost everyone recommends a 350 over a 250. [...] Why spend the extra 2 grand? [...]

If you want a heavy duty truck for towing, then if you get the 250, you probably want the upgraded tow package. When you do that, the 350 is around $800 more expensive than the 250. That's not much more. Some of the ratings are purely clerical, but they're still higher ratings than the 250.

If you're not really towing that much, then you should get a 250 without the upgraded tow package and save the $2+ grand.

[aircommuter]

Nice part about the power stroke is you get 2 cooling systems to maintain. Yes including water pumps. Part of the added weight no doubt. I like to look at the future repairs that are known to come up also.

[Kaadk]

Originally Posted by itat

I don’t recall them offering that in 2016. Maybe its only on the 2017 and newer model years?

I think it was a US only package. It wasn’t listed as an option when I bought my 2018.

[17 Oaks]

Originally Posted by 67L48

If you want a heavy duty truck for towing, then if you get the 250, you probably want the upgraded tow package. When you do that, the 350 is around $800 more expensive than the 250. That's not much more. Some of the ratings are purely clerical, but they're still higher ratings than the 250.

If you're not really towing that much, then you should get a 250 without the upgraded tow package and save the $2+ grand.

If you go off Base Prices for the different models of 250 vs 350 then you will find the differences are far less than $2k and the difference is based upon equipment.

When I went to a smaller 5th wheel and no longer needed the dually I thought there was savings to be had by going with a 250...NOT! The F 350 IMO is the best value of the Superduty line, I am on my 5th one so I believe it...

[Lighting546]

Originally Posted by 007matman

Dustman's assessment is correct. It's about payload.

From what I understand, DRW's (available on the F350) give you a bit more stability as well which helps reduce the possiblity of sway.

DRW's are also available on the F-250, but you also have to have the roof mounted clearance lights as they are mandated by FDOT.


On the F-450 and higher there is no SRW option available.

[Lighting546]

Originally Posted by itat

What is a HD tow package?

HD stands for Heavy Duty.

[007matman]

Originally Posted by Lighting546

DRW's are also available on the F-250, but you also have to have the roof mounted clearance lights as they are mandated by FDOT.


On the F-450 and higher there is no SRW option available.

Don't think I've ever seen a DRW F-250. Interesting..

[Lighting546]

Originally Posted by xd40c

F350 (and probably F250) is available with 4.10 axles ratio also. That's what I have in my 2018 6.7 DRW. Is 4.30 only available with GAS???

Mine has the 3:73's in it and as soon as I get the money saved those gear sets will be replaced with 3:31's for better fuel mileage. My 2016 350 is a pig (mpg wise), compared to the 2011 250 I traded in on the 350 (both trucks have the 6.7L).

[onetonford]

There used to be a after market company called centurion building them but not done by Ford.

[Lighting546]

For those with 3/4 ton trucks, if you want that fancy 35'+ 5th wheel toy hauler with triple axles will require at least a 1 ton DRW truck due to the pin weight of the 5th wheel toy hauler is greater than a 3/4 ton truck can safely tow.


And if you're going to step up to a 1 ton you might as well get the diesel, because it will pull better than any factory installed gas engine will, and it will live a much longer life. If you take care of it properly there is no reason you can't get at least 1 million miles out of it.

[Lighting546]

Originally Posted by onetonford

There used to be a after market company called centurion building them but not done by Ford.

Those were on dealer lots in higher numbers in Texas than here in Georgia or Florida, in fact I haven't seen a centurion conversion on a dealer lot since 1999 when I was attending a school at Lackland AFB in San Antonio.

[Lighting546]

Originally Posted by 007matman

Don't think I've ever seen a DRW F-250. Interesting..

Sadly that combo is no longer available from Ford.