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Old 08-02-2019, 10:32 PM   #61
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Better watch the pin weight, my truck has a cargo rating of 2400lbs.
A byproduct of the rear coil suspension.
Upgrade to a leaf spring 3500 Ram if you want a 5th wheel.
Totally unnecessary unless you want a 3500. Thank God for the rear coil suspension on my 2500. There's a lot of fivers to choose from that your truck will pull, including ours in my signature.
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:10 PM   #62
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I have a 2015 RAM 3500 dually pulling an 8 ton 5th wheel, and I find the RAM very comfortable.
.....and how does it handle after you unhitch and drop the 8 ton trailer and go get groceries or do a little sight seeing?
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:22 PM   #63
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.....and how does it handle after you unhitch and drop the 8 ton trailer and go get groceries or do a little sight seeing?
I don't notice much of a difference. My wife says it is a rougher ride.
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:34 PM   #64
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I don't notice much of a difference. My wife says it is a rougher ride.
Loaded mine tows well, power is "plentiful" and ride, from an operator persepctive is "okay".
It's not a bad truck by any means but it's like driving a Freighliner FL70 without a load behind it.
It is "made to work and tow" but I got spoiled with the loaded/unloaded ride of my Titan XD....the seats and ride are phenomenal and....I get significant better fuel economy pulling the 12k with the 5.0 than I do the 6.7. Especially unloaded. Loaded is 9.5 MPG with Dodge at 65 MPH and with the XD is 10.5 at 65.
Of course the Ram weighs more and I haven't broke the 20k mark on the Ram so I do acknowledge that....just wish the seats and unloaded ride were a little better.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:21 PM   #65
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We have a 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel 6.7L Cummins truck with the Andersen hitch that pulls our 2018 Elkridge 39MBHS without any difficulty. We had air bags installed. We drove across the mountains several times from Kansas to the Outer Banks, and back. In fact, we are now heading back home.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:47 PM   #66
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I have the same truck, pulling a 15k forest River. Just have some Firestone Ride Rite Air Bags installed and your good to go.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:52 PM   #67
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:27 AM   #68
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Because the coil springs are built for comfortable ride and suck for towing.

Hmmm... I wonder, then, why every rail car in the yard at my work is sitting on coil springs.

A spring is a spring is a spring. The ONLY difference is that leafs provide location function for the axle (coils and airbags have to have linkage arms), and leafs provide an additional 'self-damping' due to leaf-on-leaf friction in the spring pack.

When it comes to rate, there is no diff. A 350 pound (measured in pound needed to compress the spring 1 inch) coil spring will carry exaclty the same load as a 350 pound leaf, or a 350 pound air spring, or a 350 pound torsion bar, etc, etc..

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Hmmm... I wonder, then, why every rail car in the yard at my work is sitting on coil springs.

A spring is a spring is a spring. The ONLY difference is that leafs provide location function for the axle (coils and airbags have to have linkage arms), and leafs provide an additional 'self-damping' due to leaf-on-leaf friction in the spring pack.

When it comes to rate, there is no diff. A 350 pound (measured in pound needed to compress the spring 1 inch) coil spring will carry exaclty the same load as a 350 pound leaf, or a 350 pound air spring, or a 350 pound torsion bar, etc, etc..

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For some reason people just can't understand that.
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Hmmm... I wonder, then, why every rail car in the yard at my work is sitting on coil springs.

A spring is a spring is a spring. The ONLY difference is that leafs provide location function for the axle (coils and airbags have to have linkage arms), and leafs provide an additional 'self-damping' due to leaf-on-leaf friction in the spring pack.

When it comes to rate, there is no diff. A 350 pound (measured in pound needed to compress the spring 1 inch) coil spring will carry exaclty the same load as a 350 pound leaf, or a 350 pound air spring, or a 350 pound torsion bar, etc, etc..

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I see what you did there, taking one sentence out of context
You are right, IF the coil and leaf are actually built to rate the same.
And we are talking modern trucks, not trains.
The newer Rams with coils have terrible squat and handling problems under load. Have seen it myself at the farm. That's why I say they are built for ride comfort instead of load carrying. None of the trucks we have with leaf springs had any squat problems like those with coils did.
Coil springs on Ram definitely did not perform as advertised.
Having said all that, we have noticed most of the newer trucks are taller, but have more squat than the older trucks we keep around. Yep, all leaf springs. Guess that's the direction manufacturers are headed. Now we just automatically put air bags on all the new trucks to handle the same load the older trucks do w/o. Too sad.
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I see what you did there, taking one sentence out of context
You are right, IF the coil and leaf are actually built to rate the same.
And we are talking modern trucks, not trains.
The newer Rams with coils have terrible squat and handling problems under load. Have seen it myself at the farm. That's why I say they are built for ride comfort instead of load carrying. None of the trucks we have with leaf springs had any squat problems like those with coils did.
Coil springs on Ram definitely did not perform as advertised.
Having said all that, we have noticed most of the newer trucks are taller, but have more squat than the older trucks we keep around. Yep, all leaf springs. Guess that's the direction manufacturers are headed. Now we just automatically put air bags on all the new trucks to handle the same load the older trucks do w/o. Too sad.
You dont think it has anything to do with the fact that people are using trucks in the roles that sedans used to fill, and that maybe all the "used to have sedan but now drive a truck" people are demanding sedan rides outta trucks?

Naw. Cant be that.

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My 2015 Ram 2500 didnít have much squat. With 2400 pound it dropped about 1 3/4Ē. This 2018 I have (with the 6.7 instead of the 5.7) has a softer rear end. Iím not sure what they changed but it rides better, not withstanding the extra 800 pounds up front.
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Hmmm... I wonder, then, why every rail car in the yard at my work is sitting on coil springs.

A spring is a spring is a spring. The ONLY difference is that leafs provide location function for the axle (coils and airbags have to have linkage arms), and leafs provide an additional 'self-damping' due to leaf-on-leaf friction in the spring pack.

When it comes to rate, there is no diff. A 350 pound (measured in pound needed to compress the spring 1 inch) coil spring will carry exaclty the same load as a 350 pound leaf, or a 350 pound air spring, or a 350 pound torsion bar, etc, etc..

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I had a 2016 Ram 2500 6.4 I felt it handled a load pretty respectfully. Seems there is a large consensus that the Coil spring rear end suffers more than its leaf spring bretheren when the load is taller. Say with a Slide in RV or some other tall load. One guy had stated he didnt know if he was gonna make it home with his new slide in. To much side to side.
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