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Old 05-27-2021, 06:12 PM   #21
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From what I read there is a 30 amp 220V outlet and 20 amp 110V outlet. Guess you can adapt to the 20 amp.
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Old 05-27-2021, 06:15 PM   #22
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Sorry, it does read Max Payload. I assumed everyone weighs their rig if it comes close to max.

My bad.
How about posting a pic of the yellow Tires and Loading sticker since you already posted the silver sticker by it.
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You really didn't get too many options? What? I don't even have carpet in mine. That's quite a spec sheet.
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Old 05-27-2021, 08:31 PM   #24
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How about posting a pic of the yellow Tires and Loading sticker since you already posted the silver sticker by it.
Wow! You opened my eyes. Looks like I have about 200lbs of options on mine. I’m guessing that most of that weight is in the brakes and axle in the Max Tow option.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:00 PM   #25
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Wow! You opened my eyes. Looks like I have about 200lbs of options on mine. I’m guessing that most of that weight is in the brakes and axle in the Max Tow option.
My 2014 XLT has the Max Tow package and I have 1828lbs of payload.
I think it's more from all the extra hybrid stuff.
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I had a 2019 1500 Classic and it only had 1350 payload. Also, only had 5 lug wheels.
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Ditto my 2017 XLT...1,913 lbs
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Old 05-31-2021, 07:38 PM   #28
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On a side note, I was talking to my BIL and we were discussing payload. He has a 2017 Dodge Ram and I was asking what his payload was. I had asked because I've read quite a bit on here about how Ram's typically have really low payload. Well he had no idea what it was so I went and looked at his sticker. O.M.G. His payload is only 1171 lbs!!!! He has to be several hundred pounds over payload when he tows.
He likely is and it only matters to the few forum police running around saying
"it will never work" "we're all going to die"

Not that you want to be wayyyyy over but as your BIL proves the sun still comes up every day, you don't spin out of control, and of course the biggie, "your a hazard to all forms of life on the highway" doesn't materialize

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I just sold a 2001 Ford F150 that had 7 lugs. I'm going to miss that truck.
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Got to tow for the first time with my F150 Powerboost. We rented a camper this past weekend as our Rockwood 2509S is still waiting on delivery. Our rental was slightly smaller than the 2509S but the Powerboost towed exceptionally well. We had super nasty wind on the drives (and all weekend...) and the Reese WDH that came with the camper kept the trailer in a straight line. I kept my speeds to 65 but still had plenty of power to pass people as needed. The engine has lots of torque and pulls from a dead stop really well. I used Tow/Haul mode but didn't really mess with any of the other built in trailer stuff.

Gas mileage was about what I expected. Got 11 MPG on the way there with a side wind. Got 7 MPG on the way home with a 20mph head wind. Although returning the trailer with a tail wind and I got 16 MPG.

On a side note, I was talking to my BIL and we were discussing payload. He has a 2017 Dodge Ram and I was asking what his payload was. I had asked because I've read quite a bit on here about how Ram's typically have really low payload. Well he had no idea what it was so I went and looked at his sticker. O.M.G. His payload is only 1171 lbs!!!! He has to be several hundred pounds over payload when he tows.
my ram 1500 classic has 1571 lbs payload... those with this low payload are the those fully equiped. also, newer ram dt model, got more payload than the older classic one.
the coils mabe the culprit for that but, much more comfy on the road...
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I had a 2019 1500 Classic and it only had 1350 payload. Also, only had 5 lug wheels.
Yes, the newer “DT” Ram 1500’s get the 6-lug hubs
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Old 05-31-2021, 10:44 PM   #32
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Interesting. Well, that's what my sticker says. I did forget to mention that I have the 7.2kW generator. Maybe that's it. I don't really have many options on this truck. Might be a combination of smaller items that's lowering it.

Edit: Actually I bet the FX4 accounts for a lot of that weight as it has the skid plates. Which have come in very handy for me before so wanted again.
Wish I could zoom in on the window sticker to be able to read it.
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Wish I could zoom in on the window sticker to be able to read it.
With the FRF app, I can zoom in on the window sticker pic.
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Payload

What is all this discussion over payload? What matters is the Gross combined weight rating, payload is what you can carry in the truck, not tow. If you have a 5th wheel payload comes into play, but with a travel trailer with WDH it doesn't matter unless you load a bunch of stuff in the bed. Here's the specs for towing from FORD.

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content..._F150_Dec3.pdf
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Got to tow for the first time with my F150 Powerboost. We rented a camper this past weekend as our Rockwood 2509S is still waiting on delivery. Our rental was slightly smaller than the 2509S but the Powerboost towed exceptionally well. We had super nasty wind on the drives (and all weekend...) and the Reese WDH that came with the camper kept the trailer in a straight line. I kept my speeds to 65 but still had plenty of power to pass people as needed. The engine has lots of torque and pulls from a dead stop really well. I used Tow/Haul mode but didn't really mess with any of the other built in trailer stuff.

Gas mileage was about what I expected. Got 11 MPG on the way there with a side wind. Got 7 MPG on the way home with a 20mph head wind. Although returning the trailer with a tail wind and I got 16 MPG.

On a side note, I was talking to my BIL and we were discussing payload. He has a 2017 Dodge Ram and I was asking what his payload was. I had asked because I've read quite a bit on here about how Ram's typically have really low payload. Well he had no idea what it was so I went and looked at his sticker. O.M.G. His payload is only 1171 lbs!!!! He has to be several hundred pounds over payload when he tows.
I think you’re confusing payload with towing capacity. Payload is how much weight the truck itself is rated to carry. I’ve recently learned the importance of payload capacity when shopping for a slide in camper.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:38 AM   #36
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What is all this discussion over payload? What matters is the Gross combined weight rating, payload is what you can carry in the truck, not tow. If you have a 5th wheel payload comes into play, but with a travel trailer with WDH it doesn't matter unless you load a bunch of stuff in the bed. Here's the specs for towing from FORD.

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content..._F150_Dec3.pdf
When you pull a TT 10 to 15% of the weight is transferred to the back of the truck so yes payload does come into play.
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I think you’re confusing payload with towing capacity. Payload is how much weight the truck itself is rated to carry. I’ve recently learned the importance of payload capacity when shopping for a slide in camper.
I definitely am not confusing them

The fine folks on this forum and the F150 forums have given me quite the education on the 2 terms and how they are measured and rated.
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Ram supposedly addressed their low 1500 payloads, in the last couple of years. So Tundra is now the low payload leader, in the 1/2 ton world.
Yep. And if the 2022 model doesn't address that, there's no need for a new model.
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What is all this discussion over payload? What matters is the Gross combined weight rating, payload is what you can carry in the truck, not tow. If you have a 5th wheel payload comes into play, but with a travel trailer with WDH it doesn't matter unless you load a bunch of stuff in the bed. Here's the specs for towing from FORD.

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content..._F150_Dec3.pdf
Wrong. Your hitch weight and tongue weight are part of the CCC/payload. The weight of the TT tongue on the rear of the truck which should be 12-15% of the loaded TT weight, counts toward the payload. Most pickups and SUV's will hit the payload capacity limit long before GCWR.
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Interesting. Well, that's what my sticker says. I did forget to mention that I have the 7.2kW generator. Maybe that's it. I don't really have many options on this truck. Might be a combination of smaller items that's lowering it.

Edit: Actually I bet the FX4 accounts for a lot of that weight as it has the skid plates. Which have come in very handy for me before so wanted again.
Did you have to order the 3.73 gear rato? I have a '19 max tow and it came with 3.55.

My 302a also didn't include the side mirror spot lights.
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