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Old 10-29-2017, 11:31 PM   #41
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I have a 2014 GMC DuraMax and lived in the U.P. of Michigan where it can get to -30 F in the mornings. I use a good brand of blended fuel and have a winter cover over the grill. Without plugging it in, it starts every time.
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Old 10-30-2017, 08:07 AM   #42
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I live in North Texas, Rarely gets in the teens. I keep my 2014 GMC 2500 garaged, and plug it in when below 32 degrees. Easy start, warm oil, interior heats up quickly.
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Old 10-30-2017, 08:37 AM   #43
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I don't know where you live but I don't plug my 2015 Duramax in at all. I live in northern Virginia. Doesn't ever really get below 15f
How do you live in Northern Virginia and not have it get below 15? Dang I live in NC which is South of you and see it at 0 or slightly above several times a season..And IM not in the mountains..You must be northern COASTAL Virginia I take it!
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Old 10-30-2017, 08:46 AM   #44
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I Disagree on your disagree.

My dealer said no additives needed for a Ford Super Duty unless under -30C or -22 old people degrees. I checked with the bow tie dealer and they said that same for their engines.
What additives do you use when it does get to -30c?
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Over the past seventeen years I have owned my 7.3 (best diesel engine ever made) I drive it about once a week during the winter, if even that. I fill the tank in the fall after our last camping trip and add a bottle of a cetane boost. The night before I use the truck I will plug it in, so it is nice and warm when I start off. However, many is the time I have just started it and driven off regardless of the temperature.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:03 PM   #46
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Be careful when using fuel bought in early fall and expect to use the same fuel all winter. The blend could go from 100% #2 in the fall to 70% #2/ 30% #1 in the middle of winter to prevent gelling. That's when an anti-gelling additive is needed. At times when the temps were -40F we would use near 100% #1 diesel on my work truck to prevent gelling. It's costly and a loss of power but it still runs all day.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:08 PM   #47
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We live in Alberta, Canada where the winter day time highs are -20oC (-4oF) and the lows down to -40oC (-40oF). I plug my 350 in to a timer that comes on for about 4 hours before I need the truck at 6am but I don't bother with it until it reaches -20oC during the night.

I do use the remote starter too for about 5 minutes before I leave the house.

The next house I buy will have a large big enough garage to take a full size truck because brushing snow at 6am gets old very fast.
Been brushing snow off my cars and trucks for 40+ years.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:15 PM   #48
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Thanks for all the comments. Lots of good information from all of ya.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:58 PM   #49
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Been brushing snow off my cars and trucks for 40+ years.
2 years was enough for me. Hate hate hate it. Now I gotta build a barn, cause we got a camper....
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:15 PM   #50
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Surprisingly I discovered that the block heater worked toward increasing the life of my batteries! With an old blanket on the hood, and the rig plugged in, the batteries kept warm, and lasted several years longer that way. Just a chance discovery. The manual in my 2006 2500 Ram said to plug it in at 25 Degrees. The heat grill or glow plugs will create enough heat to fire in very cold temps, but that extra oomph from the batteries really helped things along. NO sluggish first cranks. Kept the oil warmer too, and the cab heat came up faster as well. All noticeable when I had to get up early and drive to work reliably.
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Old 10-31-2017, 09:14 AM   #51
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Be careful when using fuel bought in early fall and expect to use the same fuel all winter. The blend could go from 100% #2 in the fall to 70% #2/ 30% #1 in the middle of winter to prevent gelling. That's when an anti-gelling additive is needed. At times when the temps were -40F we would use near 100% #1 diesel on my work truck to prevent gelling. It's costly and a loss of power but it still runs all day.
I agree.
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Old 10-31-2017, 09:55 AM   #52
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from the Ford manual: (6.0L)
Cold weather starting
The engine block heater must be used for starting when the temperature
is -20°F (-29°C) or colder.

Had a 2006 F250 diesel for work, never an issue of starting although never started it colder than -10F (it didn't come with the power cord for the block heater)

Seems the debate between plugging it in and not is similar to the discussion about gas vs diesel
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:17 AM   #53
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I diagree with both disagreer's ;-)

I strongly feel that fuel additive is a necessity in winter months not for anti-gel but for fuel LUBRICITY which is reduced even more with No. 1 diesel fuel blended with regular No. 2 diesel fuel to reduce temp at which it gels. Our diesel fuel in the USA really sucks. Most do not met cetane and lubrcity requirements spec'd by manufacturers and high pressure pump makers (Bosch) This is why I'm a fan of a splash of biodiesel in our diesel fuel. It bumps up cetane and lubricity. HPFP failures can cost up to 12,000 in repairs including labor.
I full heartedly agree with you on additives. Most of the oil has been removed in the Diesel we get now, and it's a cheap protection policy. But you always have some who thinks that somebody out there is protecting there butts. The new Diesel is to make congress and the house happy. They don't care about us. I've used an additive summer and winter, If nothing else I feel better about trying to take care of my truck. So I'm with you. Besides you can get into areas before they start adding anything to the fuel you buy. I drove big trucks for 40 years, and I've been out there at 3 in the morning with a torch warming fuel tanks and lines, the pump to get it started. jovett
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:41 PM   #54
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I have a 2016 Silverado with Duramax. I looked all over for a plugin. Even looked in the manual. I went back to the dealer and he said the new trucks don't need them. I never had a problem starting it last winter. Even when it was below zero (f).
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:58 PM   #55
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I have a 2016 Silverado with Duramax. I looked all over for a plugin. Even looked in the manual. I went back to the dealer and he said the new trucks don't need them. I never had a problem starting it last winter. Even when it was below zero (f).
Did you look in the manual or the Diesel Supplement? It's there, I swear it. Very often the forums know more than the mechanics/techs/sales people.



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Old 11-02-2017, 01:02 PM   #56
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Did you look in the manual or the Diesel Supplement? It's there, I swear it. Very often the forums know more than the mechanics/techs/sales people.



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2016 Block Heaters....Hide and Seek - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums
I found it listed in the manual but my truck does not have it. Just an empty hole where it should be.
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Old 11-02-2017, 03:25 PM   #57
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$75 Ford option every dealer seems to put on. Never even snows here but was on my last 3 trucks.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:29 PM   #58
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I found it listed in the manual but my truck does not have it. Just an empty hole where it should be.
Weird, my '16 Duramax has it. Heck, I would go back to the dealer and insist they put one on under warranty.

I just looked at the window sticker that was on mine, and it shows under the Duramax option as the engine block heater included at no extra cost.

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Old 11-03-2017, 12:58 PM   #59
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Iowa here and I haven't plugged my 2015 in yet. I do have remote start and I let it warm up before heading into work. Now my old 1999.5 7.3 I plugged that thing in every night.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:59 PM   #60
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Weird, my '16 Duramax has it. Heck, I would go back to the dealer and insist they put one on under warranty.

I just looked at the window sticker that was on mine, and it shows under the Duramax option as the engine block heater included at no extra cost.

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I watched the video from aeblank. It does have the heater. The dealer did know it was there. I won't be putting much faith in what they say.!
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