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01-13-2018, 04:39 PM
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I don't do facebook but there are photos of the towing work Holmes auto transport in Alabama does with his Chevy 6.0...over 500,000 miles. The only thing on the motor he has done is the water pump twice and one alternator.
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01-13-2018, 05:39 PM
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Bene Gesserit Rule
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Originally Posted by Summit151
Hey so I was wondering if anyone has any real world towing experience with both these trucks? I can’t decide on the f-250 or gm 2500? From what I have read the ford seems to have more power? Any input would be awesome
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The 6.0 and 6.6 diesels have mountains of torque all the way from 100 rpm to 7000 rpm (well you get what I mean). The Allison gear box also has a great tow mode that makes all terrain driving easy. Don't know about the Ford.
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01-13-2018, 05:40 PM
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Bene Gesserit Rule
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Originally Posted by BigH
I don't do facebook but there are photos of the towing work Holmes auto transport in Alabama does with his Chevy 6.0...over 500,000 miles. The only thing on the motor he has done is the water pump twice and one alternator.
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Absolutely right. My 2004 Chevy 2500HD truck already has 300,000+km's on the dial and still runs like new, well almost.
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01-13-2018, 06:57 PM
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BigH, The ford 6.2 uses regular gas not premium. Got that right out of a 2017 Ford brochure sitting on my desk plus my neighbor has one and the books that came with his truck says regular gas. The Hemi is supposed to use mid-range and premium when towing. The 6.0 GM uses regular gas.
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01-13-2018, 07:06 PM
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Wrench Turnin Fool
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Originally Posted by Summit151
Are they for sure ? Wonder what the fuel economy would be
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If my 5.4 is any indication... About 5mpg 😁
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01-13-2018, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit151
Hey so I was wondering if anyone has any real world towing experience with both these trucks? I can’t decide on the f-250 or gm 2500? From what I have read the ford seems to have more power? Any input would be awesome
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Ive got the 6.2 with a 4:30 rear that was plenty enough power to tow my 12,500 lb. Cedar Creek. Now it's overkill, but I still like the ability to step on the gas and pull my 8800 lb Jayco Ht. it's a half ton towable fifth wheel 32 ft. and I didn't want to go out and buy a new truck so I'm pulling it with my 6.2 for now.
I've had two 6.0 diesels in my 2003 and 2005 pickups. I loved the power but not the maintenance and the 50 to 60 cents a gallon more for fuel. Fuel prices have come down, but the cost of filters and the rest of maintenance costs was a bit much. So, as I said the 6.2 does the job, now the 7.0 gasser might be an amazing motor.
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01-13-2018, 07:51 PM
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I had. 2016 f250 with the gas 6.2 , it was a dog, I averaged 13.5 mpg driving conservative, then I bought a travel trailer 26 foot Wildwood that maxed out gross weight about 7700 lbs, Took a trip out to Yellowstone average 7.1 miles to the gallon out there 6.9 in return, that’s what I ordered 2017 F2 50 with a 6.7 diesel, big difference
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01-13-2018, 08:12 PM
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Ford 6.2 Vs GM 6.0?
Well I found a smoking deal on a 2012 Denali 3500 6.0 today and bought it. It seems to go decent empty. Can’t wait to tow with it . I averaged 15.5 mpg on the way home all highway. Only thing that is annoying me is the steering wheel wood piece where your hands go? Any one else find this terrible and un comfy?
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01-13-2018, 11:48 PM
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Scared after the recall
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01-13-2018, 11:49 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Oh sorry you were talking gas, not diesel
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01-13-2018, 11:51 PM
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Dodge hemi. Powerhouse. Never thought I'd switch from Chevy but I'm more than happy with it after a few bolt ons and a tuner...
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01-14-2018, 12:38 AM
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Opinions are like a....... well, you know.
GM relies heavily on their Torque Management programming. Torque is greatly reduced due to very poorly designed transmissions.
In my 2006 Silverado, my 3rd trans was a custom build by Transmission Depot. I then had it tuned to add torque back.
1.5hr drive each way; average:
Silverado 4spd @ 65mph, I got around 9mpg. I couldn't use OD.
I traded it in on a 2006 F250 5spd @65, 11.1mpg, with OD. Seat is more comfortable for me.
You'll have to research it, but I believe Ford carried their EGR, Oil Cooler, Fuel Injector issues over from the 6.0.
Test drive both. Go with the one that offers the most comfort.
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01-14-2018, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Stovebolt
BigH, The ford 6.2 uses regular gas not premium. Got that right out of a 2017 Ford brochure sitting on my desk plus my neighbor has one and the books that came with his truck says regular gas. The Hemi is supposed to use mid-range and premium when towing. The 6.0 GM uses regular gas.
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Correct...Sorry about that folks, I crossed the wires in my melon with the Ram.
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01-14-2018, 04:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit151
Well I found a smoking deal on a 2012 Denali 3500 6.0 today and bought it. It seems to go decent empty. Can’t wait to tow with it . I averaged 15.5 mpg on the way home all highway. Only thing that is annoying me is the steering wheel wood piece where your hands go? Any one else find this terrible and un comfy?
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Congrats on the new truck!
No wood piece on my steering wheel.
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01-14-2018, 04:59 AM
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Dodge Ram 2500 turbo Cummins diesel works fine for me.
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01-14-2018, 07:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit151
Well I found a smoking deal on a 2012 Denali 3500 6.0 today and bought it. It seems to go decent empty. Can’t wait to tow with it . I averaged 15.5 mpg on the way home all highway. Only thing that is annoying me is the steering wheel wood piece where your hands go? Any one else find this terrible and un comfy? Attachment 160127Attachment 160128
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Nice looking truck. I think you will be happy with your decision. BTW see snow you say Cal Later RJD
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01-14-2018, 07:52 AM
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Truck
Nice looking truck. The main thing is that you are happy and it tows good. Happy Trails.
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01-14-2018, 08:31 AM
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I have a F350 6.2 gas and pull a Cedar Creek 38fb2 about 16000 lbs and have never had a problem.
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01-14-2018, 08:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cmysstailights
I have a 15 2500 silverado 6.0. Around town gas mileage horrible running e85. Thats my only gripe, she pulls my 8500lb trailer great. Wish she had a little more power on steep grades but in her defence i didnt let her scream enough. Avg mpg towing was around 8mpg threw steep grades.
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The E85 thing is relative. It can be equally or more cost effective, depending on location. For instance, regular E10 in my area is going for roughly $2.32. Regular E0 is going for $2.70. E85 is going for $1.89.
Now, with my 2015 2500 6.0, for all miles (rural, town, highway) I average about 14 mpg with E10 or E0. That plays out to about 16.5 cents a mile fuel cost on E10, 19.3 cents a mile on E0.
On E85, the average mpg I get it roughly 11 mpg. At current price, that is about 17 cents a mile.
So while the mpg with E85 can be discouraging, the actual cost per mile may not really be an issue. Again, depends on location pricing.
But I am fully sold on flex fuel capability. Back when we were seeing $4 or more for regular gas in the Midwest, I could get E85 for $1 - $1.50 less than regular E10. My vehicles lived on E85 for almost 2 years. It was substantially cheaper, on a cost per mile basis, than regular.
For the diesel crowd, diesel was trying to peg $5 a gallon back then. I know because I have to go thru about 21,000 gallons of diesel a year for my commercial stuff. I have no real need for diesel in my personal pickup, and I don't even consider it. Not with the new emissions equipped diesels.
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01-14-2018, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Cow
The E85 thing is relative. It can be equally or more cost effective, depending on location. For instance, regular E10 in my area is going for roughly $2.32. Regular E0 is going for $2.70. E85 is going for $1.89.
Now, with my 2015 2500 6.0, for all miles (rural, town, highway) I average about 14 mpg with E10 or E0. That plays out to about 16.5 cents a mile fuel cost on E10, 19.3 cents a mile on E0.
On E85, the average mpg I get it roughly 11 mpg. At current price, that is about 17 cents a mile.
So while the mpg with E85 can be discouraging, the actual cost per mile may not really be an issue. Again, depends on location pricing.
But I am fully sold on flex fuel capability. Back when we were seeing $4 or more for regular gas in the Midwest, I could get E85 for $1 - $1.50 less than regular E10. My vehicles lived on E85 for almost 2 years. It was substantially cheaper, on a cost per mile basis, than regular.
For the diesel crowd, diesel was trying to peg $5 a gallon back then. I know because I have to go thru about 21,000 gallons of diesel a year for my commercial stuff. I have no real need for diesel in my personal pickup, and I don't even consider it. Not with the new emissions equipped diesels.
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I can’t find any E 85 around where I live. Alberta Canada. Would be nice to try it out tho. And I agree for the amount I will drive this truck and tow I couldn’t justify buying a used diesel
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