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Old 04-12-2017, 03:04 PM   #21
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We have an F150 ecoboost max tow 3.73 axles and tow a 28' Flagstaff about 7300 lbs loaded. The truck does just fine. With a 38 footer, I would feel very uncomfortable. I would suggest the F250 6.2L if possible. But, again, what would I know. I have only worked with and managed two very large truck fleets during my career.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:09 PM   #22
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If you go this route I suggest you not only get the max tow but the max payload package. Unfortunately you probably won't find a truck like that on the lot. Will have to order it. Good luck, John
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:13 PM   #23
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Tow capacity and load capacity are two very different things. You should not exceed either. Tow capacity is a marketing tool and essentially means you can pull it where as load capacity means the suspension and frame of the TV handle the weight. Tow capacity can be considered to apply to something like a farm hay wagon where there is no load added to the TV frame. This is not the case when you are towing a TT or 5er.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:15 PM   #24
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Wife is making another bag of popcorn. No way will this be left for long. Still waiting for the "add air bags and you are good to go up to 16,000# and 4000# pin weight" with as 150/1500. Where is the guy that tows that 5er over the Rockies all the time?
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:17 PM   #25
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There a old saying nothing replaces displacement.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:23 PM   #26
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I would get the F250. I have a 16 F150 with the 3.5 eco and max tow, hauling a Grey Wolf 25RL its just under 28" and weight is under 6K. Truck pulls it with ease with only a little sway, have a Blue Ox WDH. Depending on what all options you want the f250 is not that much more expensive unless you get the diesel.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:34 PM   #27
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Another thread listing "towing capacity " but ignoring "payload". If you want to get a clearer picture of where you stand, pay attention to your truck's "payload ".

I'm not saying "yay" or "nay", I'm just pointing you in the right direction. (As are some others.)

I-G-N-O-R-E the "towing capacity"...
P-A-Y A-T-T-E-N-T-I-O-N to "payload"...
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:40 PM   #28
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I have put over 30k pulling a 9,000 lb 5ver over the past 5 years with my 2011 Eco boost with max tow option . I upgraded the stock 4 ply tires to 10 ply load range E tires and put air bags in the back to reduce the bounce

I was happy. Just upgraded my trailer to 42 foot 11,000 lbs so I am trading in on a F350 diesel dually
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:43 PM   #29
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I have basically the same truck, including the color and I am pulling a 32' Coachmen Chaparral Lite which weighs about 11,500 the way it is loaded. I am well under my payload capacity and it pulls like a dream with the Eco Boost. So far we have towed it over 15,000 miles with no problem whatsoever.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:45 PM   #30
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Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do something.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:52 PM   #31
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I owned a 2011 F150 4x4 supercrew with the ecoboost. Biggest POS on 4 wheels I've ever owned. Mileage was terrible. Don't believe any of the lies Ford says about the ecoboost. Got rid of it in 2014 and went with the V8. Will never own another ecoboost of any sort.
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F150 if you break the axle the wheel will leave the truck then bad things will happen.
F250 / F350 break a axle the wheel will stay on the truck. Just something that could possibly happen when overloading.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:01 PM   #33
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I have a 2011 XTR 4X4 with the 3.5 EcoBoost and tow a Puma 253FBS 5th wheel. Mine has the 7700 GVWR with an 1825 payload and the Max Tow, 3:73 gears, 11,300 towing. My unit weighs about 8000 ± lbs loaded with a pin weight between 1100 & 1250 lbs. I'm slightly over my payload limit when fully loaded, but the truck pulls it fine. The box drops about 2 inches when hooked up (no airbags).

If I had to do it again, I would get get the MAX PAYLOAD package (not to be confused with the max tow package). Correct me if I'm wrong, but this gives you a bigger gear set in the rear end, a 4800lb rear axle instead of a 4050 lb axle, extra leaf, LT tires, a bigger transmission cooler. It used to have 7 bolt axles, but I'm not sure with the newer ones. Basically you get about 500 lbs more payload. They are hard to find, you'd probably have to order one or find a used one. I saw a new 2014 XLT with the 5.0 with a 2800lb payload, but it was a regular cab.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:12 PM   #34
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Smile 2011 Ford F-150 Lariat Super Crew Ecoboost with Max Towing

Tow rating is 11,300 with Max Towing package. Have used it to tow 35' Avion going about 9,500# with no problems with the towing. Reese Dual Cam Sway Control. Used it on my last two trailers and parents Avions. I'm about ready to order a Rockwood 2902WS which is way below the Avion in wieght but the square shape is just not as aerodynamic as the Avion.

Have no problem with weight but you could easily overload the truck itself. Six passengers and filling the rear of the truck with heavy weight material but we put everythihg in the Avion so while it was heavy did not bother the truck. It goes down the divided highways at the posted 65 / 70 mph with no problems other that it does use a lot more fuel once you get over 55. The earthquake in Japan that year caused a shortage of the large fuel tanks and I could not get one so I'm living with the smaller standard size tank for a super crew. Ford built the truck to tow. It is not build to be overloaded with weight and tow at the same time. It is a dual purpose everyday 6 passenger driver that can tow up to its ratings without problems. At tops the hitch might be 1,200 but then because of the weight distribution it is spread to all four wheels. Any other good weight distribution hitch will spread the weight; that is what they are designed for. 35 years on Avion Web Page who will shortly be purchasing a Forest River Rockwood in the next few days.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:46 PM   #35
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Another thread listing "towing capacity " but ignoring "payload". If you want to get a clearer picture of where you stand, pay attention to your truck's "payload ".

I'm not saying "yay" or "nay", I'm just pointing you in the right direction. (As are some others.)

I-G-N-O-R-E the "towing capacity"...
P-A-Y A-T-T-E-N-T-I-O-N to "payload"...
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Old 04-12-2017, 06:08 PM   #36
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Having the truck and TT in my signature, and using that combo for six years, I can tell you it was a very good combo. Smooth, quite, good power, 10.2 mpg at 62 / 65 mph, and easy to drive!

However, I would not be comfortable at all with the length of the TT your looking at!
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Old 04-12-2017, 06:32 PM   #37
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2014 F150 Eco Boost

Like another writer, I have a 2011 F 150 with the 5 liter V8. I have the Tow Package. I pull a 7,400 dry, 32' Wildwood TT. The 5L is a couple HP under the Eco B, and a little under its torque. Mileage is slightly better for the V8. Only trouble I have is up steep Sierra grades where I may drop down to 3rd gear at 45 mph. Note, I seldom exceed 3,000 rpm. I haven't weighed my trailer, but guess I gross out around 8,900 lbs. The V8 gives me a little more braking power on the downhill than the V6 EB. In all, I would probably stick with the V8 if I were buying again, or go diesel.
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Old 04-12-2017, 06:53 PM   #38
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Been there - Done that!
I had the same question and arguments and in fact used my 6cyl EcoBoost to pull my 8,600lb TT, and it did an admirable job- EXCEPT, when I was coming down long grades or in bad weather, or on wind or roads with lots of sharp curves. Then, the trailer was in "too-much" control of the truck. It's capabilities were maxed and too often, I could feel the (scary) lack of adequate, and confident control. Traded up to the 250 Diesel and have never regretted it since! Control, handling, and the diesel brake coming down long grades are terrific! Driving is less stressful and more enjoyable!... and most importantly, much safer!
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Old 04-12-2017, 08:12 PM   #39
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Ford f150 6 cylinder Ecoboost

I have a 26', 4,600 TT (7,600 GVW) and hauled around 5,500. With a Ram 1500. Spongy ride, scary braking...felt "rubbery." Traded TV for Ram 2500 and feel MUCH better. Sure, I COULD pull the TT with the 1/2 ton, but near payload limit, and stopping and being in control was a bigger issue for me. Greater payload, leafs vs coils, more robust axles, etc. makes for a more pleasant tow experience. Margin makes all the difference.
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Old 04-12-2017, 08:37 PM   #40
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I have waded through several treads on this topic where the OP is looking for someone to say ..."sure you can pull anything you want with that".
Then they would be happy that they got the approval they wanted.

Unfortunately , there are so many vehicles towing way over their weight capability it becomes down right scary !

Furthermore , they are so naive they are blind to the fact that if they should cause an accident it could ruin their lives financially as their insurance will become void.

I can only plead that they do their homework and get a suitable Tow/Haul vehicle that is more than safe ... that will be more than they need rather than "I hope it will do the job".

I cringle when I see an 1/2 ton truck heading down the freeway... rear end low... with an over weighted 5th wheel...passing everyone.

I am afraid not just for myself but for some innocent driver that may get caught up in the mayhem with the possibility they may loose their life because of someone's neglect.

Sorry to vent... but why take that chance !

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