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11-20-2013, 05:33 PM
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Ford150 EB over Tundra
Would you consider the 150 EB screw with max tow an improvement over a tundra 5.7 in towing 8000 pound conventional?
Why?
If you could not manage a 250 yada yada yada.....
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11-20-2013, 06:06 PM
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Here we go . . . The ford will have more payload and you'll probably get the same mileage towing. If you want to be under the limits I'd choose the ford, but I currently tow a 7,000 lb tt with a 2008 4.7L Tundra and have zero issues. Buy what you like. It's a toss up really.
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11-20-2013, 06:18 PM
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As mentioned, you can get the F150 with more payload capacity with the max tow or particularly, the max payload option and the EC makes more torque at a much lower rpm...just what you want for towing.
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11-21-2013, 10:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Orion
Would you consider the 150 EB screw with max tow an improvement over a tundra 5.7 in towing 8000 pound conventional?
Why?
If you could not manage a 250 yada yada yada.....
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I just went through this decision in the last 6 weeks... I previously owned a 2009 F150 Screw 5.4 4x4
I really did also like the Tundra, my buddy has a 2011 and I get to drive it quite often. Decided that the EB was a better choice for the some of the same reasons already noted.
One of the biggest decisive factors for me was the fuel tank capacities 36 vs the 26.4 gallons. That's a killer for me... I can go round trip on a lot of the destination trips we do in the summer in the EB, the Tundra would have me searching for a fuel pretty much at every destination.
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11-21-2013, 10:39 AM
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I have a cousin that owns a farm and has a Tundra with the 5.7. He likes it and says it pulls great. I have an Ecoboost with 3.55 gears that I've only pulled my camper with on a little test run- no camping with it yet. My camper weighs approximately 8500 fully loaded. On flat ground it pulled in 5th at just over 2K RPM. On hills and inclines, it runs in 4th at ~2500RPM. Never sounds strained. Having owned diesels, I prefer engines to quietly hum along at lower RPM's. Almost any naturally aspirated V8 is going to drop to whatever gear it needs to be in to spin around 4K RPM(typical peak torque output of an NA V8) while pulling significant hills with a camper. IMO that's tough in particular on the valvetrain to run those high RPM's. Dropping gears and revving is also tougher on transmissions and can cause overheating.
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11-21-2013, 12:37 PM
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Sounds like the EB (as mentioned by others) would be the preferred choice If I had to pick between the two
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11-21-2013, 02:29 PM
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Never having driven the Ford with the EB I cannot comment on it. I have a 08 Tundra 5.7 DC limited that is supercharged and have no complaints pulling our 9k# 5th wheel. With a pin weight 1.8k and airbags the system works great for us. Have pulled in the Rockies and Cascades to almost 12k' + without straining or overheating. Over 20k miles of towing so far with 57k on the clock. Over payload but tows well.
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11-21-2013, 02:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by presley01
Never having driven the Ford with the EB I cannot comment on it. I have a 08 Tundra DC limited that is supercharged and have no complaints pulling our 9k# 5th wheel. With a pin weight 1.8k and airbags the system works great for us. Have pulled in the Rockies and Cascades to almost 12k' + without straining or overheating. Over 20k miles of towing so far with 57k on the clock. Over payload but tows well.
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I actually considered getting the SC...until I got the quote.
1.8k with like a 1,500# payload?
I am probably going to suck it up and wait until I can work a 2-3 year old F250 diesel out.
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11-21-2013, 02:48 PM
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11-21-2013, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustman_stx
I have a cousin that owns a farm and has a Tundra with the 5.7. He likes it and says it pulls great. I have an Ecoboost with 3.55 gears that I've only pulled my camper with on a little test run- no camping with it yet. My camper weighs approximately 8500 fully loaded. On flat ground it pulled in 5th at just over 2K RPM. On hills and inclines, it runs in 4th at ~2500RPM. Never sounds strained. Having owned diesels, I prefer engines to quietly hum along at lower RPM's. Almost any naturally aspirated V8 is going to drop to whatever gear it needs to be in to spin around 4K RPM(typical peak torque output of an NA V8) while pulling significant hills with a camper. IMO that's tough in particular on the valvetrain to run those high RPM's. Dropping gears and revving is also tougher on transmissions and can cause overheating.
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As long as there is proper cooling. As almost all trucks with a tow package come with now. And running the 5.7 at 4000 will not hurt it at all. The tundra comes with a rear end larger than the f250 with a diesel and the f350 unless ordered with a larger. If you don't believe me look it up. My toy hauler weighs 7000 all loaded and running in 4th gear at 2900 Rpms my tundra just cruises right along even with slight hills. On steeper hills I will down shift to 3rd and run between 3500-4000 Rpms all day no over heating with plenty of power. Since everyone has said yes ford is a better choice. I would say no it is not because the tundra is just as capable as the f150.
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11-22-2013, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wyo700
As long as there is proper cooling. As almost all trucks with a tow package come with now. And running the 5.7 at 4000 will not hurt it at all. The tundra comes with a rear end larger than the f250 with a diesel and the f350 unless ordered with a larger. If you don't believe me look it up. My toy hauler weighs 7000 all loaded and running in 4th gear at 2900 Rpms my tundra just cruises right along even with slight hills. On steeper hills I will down shift to 3rd and run between 3500-4000 Rpms all day no over heating with plenty of power. Since everyone has said yes ford is a better choice. I would say no it is not because the tundra is just as capable as the f150.
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11-22-2013, 07:39 AM
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ok, I was staying out of this until now. My 5.7 Tundra pulls my 8k+ trailer just fine. I've been thru Colorado Rockies and up and down the the east coast mountains. On average pulling the camper 2800 miles a year, for the past 6 years. I've never had a bit of trouble. 77k miles, no oil burn, ok gas mileage. Great truck. To compare, I had an F150, and drive them at work, but none with EB.
Bottom line...If I started over, I'd do it all again. With one exception, if I was going "full timed" with a large 5ver, I would make it a diesel.
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